Author Topic: Cannot fix ST1300... (Read 33998 times)

saaz · « **Reply #50 on:** July 11, 2013, 09:53:33 PM »

I hope STella gets fixed in time. Meanwhile, I should be up at Biloela, and Lionel will be doing a shakedown of the the new Taj caravan at Bribie Island, so on the way back I might spend a day or so in the area. A boat ride on Moreton island might be on the cards as well. So either celebrations or the other

Quote from: Diesel on July 11, 2013, 08:45:30 PM

Quote from: Tony on July 06, 2013, 09:38:51 PM
So is it fixed yet?

Quote from: saaz on July 11, 2013, 05:32:35 PM
Anyone seen a Red ST called STella on the road lately.....

Sadly - she is still in Honda Hospital waiting for my rebuilt alternator to resurface. I should be picking the alt up on Friday, and delivering it back to Honda Sat/Mon to pick her up Tues/Wed, to put all her clothes back on Thu/Fri.

As you can see, it will be a 'skin of my teeth' situation as o whether I can make it to Bilo - so I'll have to drop my attendance status down to 'possibly'.

Will update here further as events come to pass.

Cheers, Diesel

Lionel · « **Reply #51 on:** July 12, 2013, 04:29:22 PM »

Owing to circumstances beyond my control I collect my new van on 6 Aug.
Biloela might be a possibility after all.

STill dreaming · « **Reply #52 on:** July 12, 2013, 06:24:28 PM »

Go for it lionel see you there!

Diesel · « **Reply #53 on:** July 31, 2013, 07:55:49 AM »

Latest development in the alternator saga for my STella...

As you may be aware - STealership wanted $1700 to replace and fit it and the throttle body (me doing the rest in my garage. So I said....

THAT!

I took it to an auto electrician that I knew and proceeded to wait 4 weeks while the alternator got rewound for a 6 volt system!

Back it went to be redone for 12V. Another week and a half later, I picked it up last night to find that the output shaft had been bashed out of shape either by a hammer (to get it pressed back on) or by the unit being dropped!

Honda guy thinks he can repair it (as it is a snug fit) but cannot get to it for days!

So I will once again be attending a RTE in the car.

See you all at Esk this weekend.

Cheers, Diesel

ST2UP · « **Reply #54 on:** July 31, 2013, 08:12:16 AM »

Thanks for the update mate.......

Just imagine the reunion !!!!!

StinkyPete · « **Reply #55 on:** July 31, 2013, 08:34:23 AM »

Diesel, How much was a new alternator from a US supplier, compared to what you have needed to spend for the rewind etc?

Streak · « **Reply #56 on:** July 31, 2013, 08:35:45 AM »

Quote from: StinkyPete on July 31, 2013, 08:34:23 AM

Diesel, How much was a new alternator from a US supplier, compared to what you have needed to spend for the rewind etc?

I would say cheap compared to the levels of stress involved....

Shiney · « **Reply #57 on:** July 31, 2013, 08:41:14 AM »

OUCH

Diesel · « **Reply #58 on:** July 31, 2013, 08:43:36 AM »

Quote from: StinkyPete on July 31, 2013, 08:34:23 AM

Diesel, How much was a new alternator from a US supplier, compared to what you have needed to spend for the rewind etc?

$630 delivered - PLUS - it would have been here 3 weeks ago!

Biggles · « **Reply #59 on:** July 31, 2013, 09:49:36 AM »

It seems to me the rewind people owe you big time for not only failing to deliver a proper repair the first time, but then delivering a seriously damaged item.
How can they stay in business if that's an example of their work.
PUBLISH their name if they won't do something to compensate you.
There is a website where you can air your grievance. Tell them you're going to post them up there if they won't help you.

http://www.notgoodenough.org/

I've used this and it works!

Gatey · « **Reply #60 on:** July 31, 2013, 10:02:40 AM »

If you let this go by Diesel then they just make a habit of it..they try it on with the next and so on.

Their cock-up with voltage and then the bash..just not on mate.

Use your spurs.

Neale · « **Reply #61 on:** July 31, 2013, 01:01:34 PM »

Yep, go hard or go home.

Gavo · « **Reply #62 on:** July 31, 2013, 02:27:30 PM »

Ah I see your problem don't know why id didn't come to me earlier

Your problem with bike is it is not Pearl Corrinado Blue.

Sabie · « **Reply #63 on:** July 31, 2013, 03:03:00 PM »

. I was thinking that, but I've seen the size of diesel and he can probably run faster than me too.

It's ok Diesel, we love ya even if it is a red.

I hope Stella is back on the road soon.....

Diesel · « **Reply #64 on:** July 31, 2013, 03:55:21 PM »

I explained the situation and he gave me a $50 discount. That means I have had the alt re-built, re-wound and re-conditioned for $195. This makes me

Not out of the woods yet tho.

Sicman · « **Reply #65 on:** July 31, 2013, 04:33:25 PM »

Bugga Diesel it should have been free. You know where to not go next time

winston66 · « **Reply #66 on:** July 31, 2013, 05:58:58 PM »

Winston66.
Wonders,
this is very interesting, but here I will probably shown some ignorance,
My question is about the voltage regulator that controls the alternator output.
I have often heard and or read about some regulators being called a Shunt regulator.
Now i do not know what the ST1300 configuration is, But it is my belief that a shunt type regulator lets the alternator operate at its rated output, and whilst supplying the necessary power,(voltage and Current)draw to the needed electrical items it also then shunts any surpless current through a suitable resistor (load) to the electrical earthing point.
This suggests to me that if my guess is correct an alternator that is in this type of configuration will be putting out its rated output at its specified rev. range.At all times
Now I stress the fact that I am not sure if what I have said is correct and I hope that some knowledgeable person can put some light on the subject so to speak.
And I also do not know if this supposition will have anything to do or any bearing on the problem to hand.
Cheers to all.
Winston66

Pocket STocker · « **Reply #67 on:** July 31, 2013, 10:26:48 PM »

Don't be concerned doing a RTE in the car Diesel my friend, got my BB trained to jump in the passenger side when required

Pockey

gaz · « **Reply #68 on:** August 01, 2013, 02:25:29 AM »

Brock · « **Reply #69 on:** August 01, 2013, 08:37:31 AM »

Sory to say that you are wrong Winston, in fact I have never heard that explanation in working with electrickery in the last 40 years.

An Alternator (or generator) is designed to operate at a certain voltage, with a capacity to deliver a maximum current of what ever it may be. The regulator keeps the voltage constant ( in our case 13.8V approx). As more current is drawn, the voltage tends to want to drop, so the reg works to keep it where its supposed to be.

An analogy would be a water tank on a high stand, with a pump to keep it full and a feed pipe. The tank will have a certain head of pressure, that will start to drop slightly as the water flows out through the tap . As the level in the tank drops, the pump turns on to refill the tank..

Diesel · « **Reply #70 on:** August 31, 2013, 12:45:03 PM »

Reckon I'll be ready for RTE tomorrow?

Here is what Stella looked like at 11.00am ......

Am pulling the

HID headlight out as I had no headlights!!!

I'll see where I can get up to.

Cheers, Diesel (on lunch break)

alans1100 · « **Reply #71 on:** August 31, 2013, 01:03:32 PM »

Quote from: Brock on August 01, 2013, 08:37:31 AM

Sory to say that you are wrong Winston, in fact I have never heard that explanation in working with electrickery in the last 40 years.

He's talking about this:

Linear regulators exist in two basic forms: series regulators and shunt regulators http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_regulator

Sicman · « **Reply #72 on:** August 31, 2013, 01:36:41 PM »

Gee Diesel - Looks like you need some sober assistants this time

Brock · « **Reply #73 on:** August 31, 2013, 03:20:35 PM »

That is so not Good Diesel,

Hope things improve.

Allan,

That descripton sounds a bit like the system used to control the exciter voltage in the alternators rotor. Used as an output regulator for the alternator would be wildly inefficient.

alans1100 · « **Reply #74 on:** August 31, 2013, 03:53:38 PM »

Quote from: Brock on August 31, 2013, 03:20:35 PM

That is so not Good Diesel,

Hope things improve.

Allan,

That descripton sounds a bit like the system used to control the exciter voltage in the alternators rotor. Used as an output regulator for the alternator would be wildly inefficient.

To me it sounded like what you'd get on a circuit board or similar not as you say the alternator output.

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