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Honda ST1100 Section => Tyres...to suit your ST1100 => Topic started by: Diesel on February 08, 2012, 10:47:21 AM
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We are probably all going to have to repair a roadside puncture (or wait for roadside assistance to tow your ST away).
Below are some of the popular methods and kits used these days.
It is good to practice using these kits in the comfort of your garage on an old tyre - because you can bet that when you have to do it for real out there - it'll be raining, dark and blowing like a hatfull! So better to not have to learn for the first time then!
Tyre Plugger kits...
Stop N Go Pocket Tire Plugger Demonstration (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCrRXYWm1Hg#)
Tyre Worms...
Fixing punctured motorcycle tire (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfUdmhWZLR0#ws)
Twist n Go plugs.....
Motorcycle tyre repair - How to plug a bike tire (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdyLRdTRN3M#ws)
Slime type puncture prevention system....
Install Motorcycle Tire Protection System from Ride-On • J&P Cycles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi7VLRqX-Sk#ws)
Mini 12v air compressor...
Slime Power Sport Tire Inflator Demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxUumHS-pKI#ws)
Co2 compressed air cylinders (jump to 3.30min)...
Gryyp Cargol Turn and Go Tubeless Tire Repair Kit Installation Video - Micro Kit + Cargol Inflate (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSvCQnDoP0o#)
Auto balancing tyre beads......
DynaBeads demo video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq263AYgyYg#)
This has been a ST Community Service from your friendly OzSTOC Team!
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I use the worms and have for years. Always carry a Slime Compressor, and in it are the worms, fuzes and tyre guage, Under the seat in the rear pod are the two tools that put the hole in and worm in.
A really good thing to have on the bike are long nose pliers so you can dig the nail/whatever out that caused the puncture. I've had worms in the tyre for 15000+ kays not a problem and bugger all air leaking out
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Can anyone advise where in Western Australia, I might be able obtain the WORMS tyre plugger kit as featured in the second video.
Cheers winston66
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This is how it SHOULDN'T be done!!!
How to inflate a tyre with a can of WD-40 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNVXHbja0cE#ws)
Cheers
Whizz
:13Candy
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You should be able to pick up some in Repco, supercheap or your local 4x4 shop Winston. They are very popular with the off road croud.
Ordered and recieved one of these
http://www.tomcatdistribution.com.au/stop-and-go-tire-repair-kits?zenid=d75bb77990fb735ed991ed9afc3fc32c (http://www.tomcatdistribution.com.au/stop-and-go-tire-repair-kits?zenid=d75bb77990fb735ed991ed9afc3fc32c)
simple to use (I hope), the worms can be hard to push in and are messy as they get their gooey sealant all over your hands. Dont forget to get a small pump as well
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Just replaced the Cig lighter plug on my mini Slime pump with a powerlet (BMW) type plug. now can plug it into the socket on my left panel. With the pump and plugs under the seat, I'm almost guaranteed never to need it for my self. :thumbsup :thumbsup
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The worms are readily available from auto places. I haven't had to use them on a bike as yet, but have done a few car tyres with zero issues with pressure loss. I have heard good and bad about the mushroom plug type, as it seems depending on where the hole is they are susceptible to the mushroom being cut by the tyre cords. The kits where you insert and twist off the plug are interesting, but I don't have any practical or hearsay experince with them. Anything is better than nothing in the middle of mowhere though.
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Ok you guys are going to have to show me all this stuff at the Meet.
I don't carry anything
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You can get the worms anywhere, like Kmart Target, Supercheap, Repco. They strart from like $5.00 or so for just the worms to $15.00 and upwards for worms and a couple of the screwdriver things. One to make the hole and ream it out a bit and the other to put the worm in. Grab yourself a pair of long nose plies to get what caused the puncture out.
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You can get the worms anywhere, like Kmart Target, Supercheap, Repco.
I guess there's the rub...I didn't know they were called worms until now
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Ok you guys are going to have to show me all this stuff at the Meet.
I don't carry anything
Mate seen a bit of the stufff people carry to fix punctures and reckon I have it sorted cause I stole from what I thought was good.
First thing is the compressor, seen none better than the "Slime"
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/4/77/13764/ITEM/Slime-Power-Sport-Tire-Inflator.aspx (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/4/77/13764/ITEM/Slime-Power-Sport-Tire-Inflator.aspx)
Now you need some worms and the screwdriver things, $5.00 gets you one:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Emergency-Car-Auto-Bike-Tubeless-Tire-Tyre-Puncture-Plug-Repair-Cement-Tool-Kit-/140669313670?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20c08b6286 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Emergency-Car-Auto-Bike-Tubeless-Tire-Tyre-Puncture-Plug-Repair-Cement-Tool-Kit-/140669313670?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20c08b6286)
A tyre pressure guage, and get a cheap one for a couple of dollars that will fit in the "Slime"pouch with the worms. The dearer ones are only for smucks as their too easily left on the side of the road cause your all excited about getting the puncture fixed and just take off. The next stop is either a servo or home where you can check the tyre pressure with good gear :thumbsup
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Ok you guys are going to have to show me all this stuff at the Meet.
I don't carry anything
Mate seen a bit of the stufff people carry to fix punctures and reckon I have it sorted cause I stole from what I thought was good.
First thing is the compressor, seen none better than the "Slime"
[url]http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/4/77/13764/ITEM/Slime-Power-Sport-Tire-Inflator.aspx[/url] ([url]http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/4/77/13764/ITEM/Slime-Power-Sport-Tire-Inflator.aspx[/url])
Now you need some worms and the screwdriver things, $5.00 gets you one:
[url]http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Emergency-Car-Auto-Bike-Tubeless-Tire-Tyre-Puncture-Plug-Repair-Cement-Tool-Kit-/140669313670?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20c08b6286[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Emergency-Car-Auto-Bike-Tubeless-Tire-Tyre-Puncture-Plug-Repair-Cement-Tool-Kit-/140669313670?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20c08b6286[/url])
A tyre pressure guage, and get a cheap one for a couple of dollars that will fit in the "Slime"pouch with the worms. The dearer ones are only for smucks as their too easily left on the side of the road cause your all excited about getting the puncture fixed and just take off. The next stop is either a servo or home where you can check the tyre pressure with good gear :thumbsupI'ma going to got check out those sites, now
Dude, you're just a pocket full of good tips and tricks.
And here I was thinking if I ever got a puncture. I'd end up face down on the Bitumen anywhy and the tow truck would have to take my bike regardless... :D
Edit: Does all that stuff fit under the seat?
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Ok you guys are going to have to show me all this stuff at the Meet.
I don't carry anything
Mate seen a bit of the stufff people carry to fix punctures and reckon I have it sorted cause I stole from what I thought was good.
First thing is the compressor, seen none better than the "Slime"
[url]http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/4/77/13764/ITEM/Slime-Power-Sport-Tire-Inflator.aspx[/url] ([url]http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/4/77/13764/ITEM/Slime-Power-Sport-Tire-Inflator.aspx[/url])
Now you need some worms and the screwdriver things, $5.00 gets you one:
[url]http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Emergency-Car-Auto-Bike-Tubeless-Tire-Tyre-Puncture-Plug-Repair-Cement-Tool-Kit-/140669313670?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20c08b6286[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Emergency-Car-Auto-Bike-Tubeless-Tire-Tyre-Puncture-Plug-Repair-Cement-Tool-Kit-/140669313670?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20c08b6286[/url])
A tyre pressure guage, and get a cheap one for a couple of dollars that will fit in the "Slime"pouch with the worms. The dearer ones are only for smucks as their too easily left on the side of the road cause your all excited about getting the puncture fixed and just take off. The next stop is either a servo or home where you can check the tyre pressure with good gear :thumbsupI'ma going to got check out those sites, now
Dude, you're just a pocket full of good tips and tricks.
And here I was thinking if I ever got a puncture. I'd end up face down on the Bitumen anywhy and the tow truck would have to take my bike regardless... :D
Edit: Does all that stuff fit under the seat?
Mate first things first. With Tubeless tyres when you get a puncture in the front it just gets bloody hard to stear, and thats it unlees some FOOL of a ULYSSES Turd decides to put a tube in a tubeless tyre in the front of a BMW they just sold you so they could save a few dollars. "RESULT"a blowout in the front at over 200kph and ahhhhhh having to throw the bike away. Tube ended up the size of a squash ball???????
Punctures in the rear tyre who cares and at any speed don't care. Had me a few and never even knew I had em untill I stopped. On one trip to Adelaide and back, I had 3 punctures in the rear tyre, probably because we were way overloaded :rofl with all the gear on including a pillion, and not once did I know untill I stopped.
So if she's hard to steer its because it hasn't got enough air in the front, whether its got a flat or just needs air
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Mate first things first. With Tubeless tyres when you get a puncture in the front it just gets bloody hard to stear,
Punctures in the rear tyre who cares and at any speed don't care. Had me a few and never even knew I had em untill I stopped.
Huh...who knew? never had a puncture in either car or bike...
Oh and stop laughing everyone else reading this, this just a preview of the stupid questions I'm going to bomb bard you all with in April
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I do have some big fat worms in my vege gardens .. >:() >:(). will they work
:whistle :whistle :whistle
totally tipsy
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I found a nail in my rear tyre this morning, as I was ready to go on a ride to a local bakery with some mates, and the tyre was as flat as a maggot.
I smugly pulled out my nice ans compact TyrePlier Kit with the little conical plugs, which I've carried for years and never needed, and followed the instructions. "It's OK boys, I won't be a second" The bloody plug could not be inserted into the hole in the tyre, even after reaming out the hole. The insertion tool simply punched a hole in the tip of the plug. :OldMan
Into the ute tool kit and pulled out the sticky string plugs, and the job was done in seconds. Needless to say the TyrePlier kit will come out of the bike and go in that bottom drawer where the unwanted stuff resides, and I'll now carry a sticky string kit in the bike.
It was lucky that I've never had a puncture while on a remote road somewhere, as I would have been screwed. This takes me back to Diesel's original post, where he suggests you do a practice run with your puncture kit in your shed, just to make sure it all works OK.
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The Stopngo repair kit is dead easy to use
here is a how to do.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53770433/FlatFix.PDF
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From my experience on the FarRally, you really have to ream the hole very thoroughly and have gobs of rubber glue to lube the hole. Then you will only get the sticky "rope" to go in if it isn't old. I had to buy new ones which went in well. The old ones just bunched up outside the hole.
What constitutes "old"? Mine were around 6 years, so it might pay to buy a new pack of ropes every few years to have fresh ones ready for an emergency. I found myself pacing outside the SuperCheap Auto store from 8:04 to 8:30 waiting for them to open when I really needed to be on the road completing the Rally.
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My "worm" repaired rear PR4GT was still loosing pressure, so I made some enquiries about getting it professionally patched with a mushroom plug from the inside. All three dealers that I rang would not install a patch, as it was against tyre manufacturer's recommendation due to the speed and load under which they operate. Each offered to either fit a tube, which I was not prepared to do as another puncture would give me a rapid and potentially catastrophic rapid deflation, or take the tyre from the rim and let me negotiate a patch/repair with a nearby car tyre dealer.
Since the tyre had 10,500km on it, which is around half of the life I would normally get, and it was going to cost me to get it fixed no matter what option I took, I've replaced it with a new PR4GT for $285 fitted and balanced.
I'm happy to have a new tyre, but annoyed to loose 10,000km of life from my old one. I've ordered a "Stop N Go" puncture repair kit, which looks like it gives the most positive repair to a simple puncture in the tread.
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Its far easier to use than the gummy worms, you may even be able to replug the exisiting hole when the kit arrives.
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My "worm" repaired rear PR4GT was still loosing pressure
I had the same experience, so I put 8 ounces of sealant into the tyre which solved the leak.
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I can quite comfortably say with a great del CONFIDENCE that the twist and go are SHITE!
The worms are great.
the Super cheap Auto air pump for $70 is about to be put somewhere where the seller will not feel very comfortable about.
What recommendations are there for 12 volt pumps??
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I have a heavier duty pump I carry, the small cigarette packet sized ones dont last, and will fail when you most need it.
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The 4x4 shops have some good quality types.