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Title: New Project
Post by: Kenmoore on August 11, 2019, 08:19:11 AM
I'm a 62 year old bike tragic.

There are currently a few bikes in the Man Cave and this is the latest addition.

(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b434/kenmoore5321/5AA7DA65-90C0-4765-ACEA-90864B4FF01A_zpszwl8koio.jpg) (http://s1043.photobucket.com/user/kenmoore5321/media/5AA7DA65-90C0-4765-ACEA-90864B4FF01A_zpszwl8koio.jpg.html)

This bike was given to me by an ex colleague.

It has done a few K's at 158,000 and has sat exposed to the elements for a long time.

When I went to pick it up the front brakes were seized, after a bit of persuasion we got it on the trailer.

I live near Kangaroo Valley and have been riding since I was 10 years old.

I currently ride a VTR1000f that I love however my brother who I do a lot of riding with recently bought a VFR1200 and my intention is to resurrect this bike to do a bit of touring with him.

I have toured on the VTR and my record is 990Klms in a day!

(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b434/kenmoore5321/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-11/631A5186-8AA2-4CEF-B41D-CBA6F1822798_zpsu8bz8unq.jpg) (http://s1043.photobucket.com/user/kenmoore5321/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-11/631A5186-8AA2-4CEF-B41D-CBA6F1822798_zpsu8bz8unq.jpg.html)

This is a pic of my VTR out past Nerriga with a few mates at a place called Johnnos Corner.

I have read a lot about the ST and just love bikes with carbs.

I have owned the latest and greatest over the years and prefer not to have the electronics that distract from the true ride experience.

I know my way around a bike and it is my intention to resurrect the ST with the help,of the folks on here.

Looking forward to the trip !


Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Bodø on August 11, 2019, 08:23:30 AM
Good morning and welcome from Adelaide, South Australia.   :hatwave
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Jdbiker on August 11, 2019, 08:31:17 AM
Welcome from Melbourne (Lynbrook) Kenmoore :hatwave.
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: StinkyPete on August 11, 2019, 08:44:33 AM
Hi Kenmoore and another welcome to OzSTOC from SA.    :hatwave     You will find us to be a goldmine of advice and information, so best wishes for your restoration of your "new" bike.
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Wild Rose on August 11, 2019, 08:58:50 AM
Welcome Kenmoore to OzSTOC from Toowoomba in Queensland  :hatwave
Enjoy your ST1100  :thumb Enjoy the Forum  :thumbsup
 :beer
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Lionel on August 11, 2019, 09:07:33 AM
Welcome Kenmoore.
With your new Honda you’ll be much more comfortable riding long distances.
A few of us on the Forum have completed Iron Butt Association (IBA) rides on ST1100/ST1300 bikes.
Lower tier IBA rides to be completed within 24 hours include the SS1600 (actually 1610 km) and SS2000, and a much more difficult task is the Centreline24; Port Augusta to Darwin (approx 2,734 km in 24 hours).
If you’re interested you’ll find information about the IBA on the web.
Last year I donated two white ST1100 bikes to Joe’s Motorcycles in Fyshwick if you’re looking for parts.
I’m just down the road in Canberra. :beer
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: richo on August 11, 2019, 09:12:19 AM
Welcome.   You have got yourself a great bike.   A bit of TLC and she will be eating miles with ease.   If you need any assistance with parts of service hints you are in the right spot.
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Sicman on August 11, 2019, 09:44:05 AM
Welcome On In Kenmoore  :clap
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Kenmoore on August 11, 2019, 09:50:36 AM
Thanks for the warm welcome.

Now I just need to get her into the man cave.

I will keep the forum posted on where I am at.

(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b434/kenmoore5321/243586D7-1B01-47A5-A17E-A869ABAB438A_zpsnmdwuvmq.jpg) (http://s1043.photobucket.com/user/kenmoore5321/media/243586D7-1B01-47A5-A17E-A869ABAB438A_zpsnmdwuvmq.jpg.html)
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: ruSTynutz on August 11, 2019, 09:55:39 AM
Welcome Ken!  ++
 :chocolate-box-smiley-emoticon
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: johnnyYTED on August 11, 2019, 10:01:55 AM
 :dred11 BEEstY  :blk13
Hi Kenmoore, I live a little closer in Picton, so welcome to the forum. Nice colour you have sitting in the trailer.
The ST 1100 will help you increase your best k's in a day, I know from experience.
Happy to help with anything if\when I am home, which isn't too often theses days as I'm out riding as much as I can while I can.
I have a 1998 ST1100, STranger, and a 2008yr ST1300, STrangler and recently went to 3 wheels on a 2017 Can-Am F3S Daytona named BEEstY.
I am also the NSW\ACT OzSTOC flag bearer so I'm sure we'll meet at an RTE one day.
http://ozstoc.com/index.php?board=23.0 (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?board=23.0)   :eat check out our next ride to eat here.
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Shiney on August 11, 2019, 01:58:16 PM
G'day Kenmoore, Welcome to the forum :hatwave
I look forward to following the resurrection of your "new" ST :thumbsup
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: alans1100 on August 11, 2019, 02:10:59 PM
Hi and welcome from Peterborough SA.

Looking at the bike colour and the RH switch block it looks like an ex police.

Timing belt should be done at 150,000 km but no way of knowing if it has been done or not so I'd put it on the list of things to do.

 
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Kenmoore on August 11, 2019, 09:04:14 PM
I wondered what the numbers were on the switch block and now that the beast is in the cave I can see that it has been painted at some stage,

I wonder what its history is.

I will have a talk to my mate and find out npbut for now my first priority it to get it running.

As long as it fires and runs for a couple of seconds I will get an idea of the engines state.

From what I have seen these things are robust.

I also notice that the back shock looks to have had a spring fitted and the front forks are as soft as hell.

So my plan is to start it, assess it and start stripping with a view to doing the brakes as they are still binding, replace the timing belt, check the valves and shim as required, replace all fluids and filters, remove the fuel tank and clean to get it into a mechanical shape that will allow for reliable long distance running.

Then the bodywork will come into play.

Not sure what colour it will become however some ideas are forming in my head.

I am liking the bagged look but time will tell.

I will check out the VIN number and see if it was a police bike.

More pics to follow and I will start a new thread on the rebuild.

There is no rush on my part as I have a few things to attend to in the near future, one of them being the annual Moto Guzzi rally next month up at the Bretti Reserve outside Gloucester NSW.
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Kenmoore on August 11, 2019, 09:43:45 PM
Just checked the Model Code for the beast and it is ST1100PT.

Explains the switch gear on the right hand block. There is also a bunch of surplus wiring in the seat tail that was probably for lights and radios etc.

Interesting.

The original colour code was NH138 , can any one point me in the right direction regarding colour codes ?
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Brock on August 11, 2019, 09:44:31 PM
Post a pic of your switch block, and answers could be forthcoming
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: alans1100 on August 11, 2019, 09:58:46 PM
Just checked the Model Code for the beast and it is ST1100PT.

Explains the switch gear on the right hand block. There is also a bunch of surplus wiring in the seat tail that was probably for lights and radios etc.

Interesting.

The original colour code was NH138 , can any one point me in the right direction regarding colour codes ?

The code is for the police colour - Shasta White. The T is the year code for 1996

Everything you need to know about 1100's is on this site https://www.st-1100.com/st1100-parts.html (https://www.st-1100.com/st1100-parts.html)
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Brock on August 11, 2019, 10:37:11 PM
A few giveaways if it is a police spec bike:-

Speedo calibrated in 2 k increments
Volt meter
Extra switched on the right grip
No 6 Switch next to hazard light switch next to left knee
Headlight adjust knob hidden under right engine cover up top..
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Kenmoore on August 16, 2019, 07:41:32 AM
Hi,

Yes the bike has all,of the above and is now in the cave and the stripping and inspection has started.

Been neglected I am sorry to say and has also been over on the left hand side., nothing to serious by the looks just some telltale signs.

Part way through removing the fairings and it is obvious that the bike was originally white. Lots of cobwebs and stuffed fasteners.

I will strip it right down , get it started ,replace the cam belt,  replace all fluids and filters, remove and clean the carbs and then start on the brakes. The front calipers are seized and appears that the discs all round are stuffed.

I will mic them up and see.

Lots to do however it is a typical Honda, well built and engineered so I am hoping that the engine is basically sound and just in need of some TLC.

I will inspect all bearings and repack or replace as necessary.

There appears to be no free play in the swingarm but God knows when the bearings were last attended to, like wise the steering stem bearings.

If I am going to do some K's on this beast I want it reliable and right.

It is my intention to respray the old girl, most likely white with black accents and black wheels.

I will post some pics shortly

Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Brock on August 16, 2019, 08:06:51 AM
Get the brakes and pads from metal gear, they have good stuff.
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Kenmoore on August 16, 2019, 08:07:06 AM
Pics,

(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b434/kenmoore5321/BBAA379C-46B7-4BAC-B5BA-9BE48EAEFAFD_zpscl4nfrig.jpg) (http://s1043.photobucket.com/user/kenmoore5321/media/BBAA379C-46B7-4BAC-B5BA-9BE48EAEFAFD_zpscl4nfrig.jpg.html)

Corrosion galore from being out in the weather for 7 months

(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b434/kenmoore5321/7F2B31D7-07B3-44EC-AF14-8C3E864A35B1_zpsxhkmptsg.jpg) (http://s1043.photobucket.com/user/kenmoore5321/media/7F2B31D7-07B3-44EC-AF14-8C3E864A35B1_zpsxhkmptsg.jpg.html)

Cobwebs everywhere, killed a few spiders.

(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b434/kenmoore5321/8497E6B0-E20B-49F2-9373-141453EA6723_zpslbiwymch.jpg) (http://s1043.photobucket.com/user/kenmoore5321/media/8497E6B0-E20B-49F2-9373-141453EA6723_zpslbiwymch.jpg.html)

Filthy dirty everywhere .

(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b434/kenmoore5321/682F7AC6-6739-478E-BE28-4F73A5FFC033_zpsciprt5bj.jpg) (http://s1043.photobucket.com/user/kenmoore5321/media/682F7AC6-6739-478E-BE28-4F73A5FFC033_zpsciprt5bj.jpg.html)

Getting there, too scared to look at the air filter.

(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b434/kenmoore5321/C534CE4B-9135-4603-83D0-62541506CDA2_zpsln3cgbfp.jpg) (http://s1043.photobucket.com/user/kenmoore5321/media/C534CE4B-9135-4603-83D0-62541506CDA2_zpsln3cgbfp.jpg.html)

Now to finish getting the fairings off and try and start the beast.

Will let you know how I go.






Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Kenmoore on August 16, 2019, 12:29:58 PM
Well,

The saga continues, I have removed all fairings and the neglect and spiders are even more evident.

(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b434/kenmoore5321/E242B8FC-A43F-4F2A-8C35-54145AADCAC6_zpsvsvish5z.jpg) (http://s1043.photobucket.com/user/kenmoore5321/media/E242B8FC-A43F-4F2A-8C35-54145AADCAC6_zpsvsvish5z.jpg.html)

(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b434/kenmoore5321/41253D3E-4CC9-4366-8151-0E75211DAB4E_zpsghn0io76.jpg) (http://s1043.photobucket.com/user/kenmoore5321/media/41253D3E-4CC9-4366-8151-0E75211DAB4E_zpsghn0io76.jpg.html)

(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b434/kenmoore5321/762A20AF-C97D-4460-B026-9021BCA61AE8_zps3q24ror8.jpg) (http://s1043.photobucket.com/user/kenmoore5321/media/762A20AF-C97D-4460-B026-9021BCA61AE8_zps3q24ror8.jpg.html)

Remember how I said that I was worried about the air filter !

My fears were well founded, over oiled and deteriorating.

Is this the standard or an aftermarket ?

Check out all the rotting foam in the base of the airbox.

Carbs will definitely be coming off, no problems there as  a VTR owner I am more than familiar with carbs.

(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b434/kenmoore5321/AD5438D3-FA7A-48E4-BE4F-F810CE583B1B_zpsm9ba4bz7.jpg) (http://s1043.photobucket.com/user/kenmoore5321/media/AD5438D3-FA7A-48E4-BE4F-F810CE583B1B_zpsm9ba4bz7.jpg.html)

(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b434/kenmoore5321/89987DAC-B103-4999-A3DF-0154B573706B_zpstfbw1l4a.jpg) (http://s1043.photobucket.com/user/kenmoore5321/media/89987DAC-B103-4999-A3DF-0154B573706B_zpstfbw1l4a.jpg.html)

Ho hum,

Lots to do now and finding more at every turn. This old girl needs plenty of TLC and time.









Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Bodø on August 16, 2019, 12:39:31 PM
Life's an adventure.    :grin
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Kenmoore on August 16, 2019, 01:21:31 PM
Is this air filter standard ?

(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b434/kenmoore5321/ECB65C5C-9EC9-4352-9A76-9C09E466D395_zpsnajvt758.jpg) (http://s1043.photobucket.com/user/kenmoore5321/media/ECB65C5C-9EC9-4352-9A76-9C09E466D395_zpsnajvt758.jpg.html)

I know it's fruited , does it look familiar to anyone.

It needs a new foam !

Title: Re: New Project
Post by: alans1100 on August 16, 2019, 02:31:15 PM
Not OEM but it might be K&N which are costly but also reusable - some on here use them

Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Brock on August 16, 2019, 02:41:52 PM
OEM is a paper filter, good thing you didnt start it or there might be foam bits through the engine. Oil on the foam will cause that degradtion if not cleaned and re-oiled regularly ( every 10 yrs isnt regular)
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Shiney on August 17, 2019, 07:53:42 PM
:think1 Definitely aftermarket, but not K&N as the mesh isn't fine enough :think1
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Kenmoore on August 17, 2019, 08:29:39 PM
YE HA!

Started her up tonight with a new battery and she is whisper quiet compared to my other bikes.

Will be putting a standard air filter back in .

Definitely replacing the cam belt.

I am going to remove the wheels and check the brakes.

The front is almost seized rock solid.

Have to get some time to attack her.

I am impressed at how quiet the engine is !

Wonder if it has had some work done before ?

The rocker covers are leaking so it's new gaskets for those as well.

Will get to the carbs directly but it idles and runs well when the throttle is blipped.

Well happy !
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Sicman on August 17, 2019, 11:28:40 PM
Excellent news  :clap
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Kenmoore on August 24, 2019, 07:39:30 AM
Yesterday I got the front wheel out finally. Bloody thing was seized due to the brakes.
(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b434/kenmoore5321/C07EA584-5CAF-485A-BCBB-37E02F9C3BE7_zpsetlqhbr3.jpg) (http://s1043.photobucket.com/user/kenmoore5321/media/C07EA584-5CAF-485A-BCBB-37E02F9C3BE7_zpsetlqhbr3.jpg.html)

Took the calipers off and this is what I found.

(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b434/kenmoore5321/03A232E0-1167-4B4A-9753-3E21EC7483FD_zps68jalrzy.jpg) (http://s1043.photobucket.com/user/kenmoore5321/media/03A232E0-1167-4B4A-9753-3E21EC7483FD_zps68jalrzy.jpg.html)
(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b434/kenmoore5321/9A8E5A96-7AB8-4929-A53C-905E02D4AA47_zpspiua7mij.jpg) (http://s1043.photobucket.com/user/kenmoore5321/media/9A8E5A96-7AB8-4929-A53C-905E02D4AA47_zpspiua7mij.jpg.html)

(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b434/kenmoore5321/651B6D88-96C8-43CA-9EE4-F1A8F2CB2AAC_zpsd9bd2rpq.jpg) (http://s1043.photobucket.com/user/kenmoore5321/media/651B6D88-96C8-43CA-9EE4-F1A8F2CB2AAC_zpsd9bd2rpq.jpg.html)

These are some of the most corroded calipers I have ever seen, full,of a yellow gunky sludge and corrosion everywhere.

Managed to salvage 2 Pistons out of four, will order new Pistons and seals today. Will keep the salvaged items as spares.

I will have to disassemble the master cylinder and clean it as well.

The brake lines are the originals and they will be replaced.

Does anyone have any suggestions where to get some braided lines from ?

I have hel lines on my other bikes but they are a bit hexy for this budget build.

The front forks are a disaster and I will remove, clean and service.

Everywhere I look there is mass corrosion.

I intend to start at the front and continue back.

There is a lot to do.

Stay tuned for more.







Title: Re: New Project
Post by: CallMeSteve on August 24, 2019, 07:45:07 AM
You’ve got infinitely more mechanical talent than I  :-++

As an aside, I’d love to see some closer photos of MEN65. That looks like a classic.
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: richo on August 24, 2019, 08:34:35 AM
Impressive work.  Look forward to reading future instalments.
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Kenmoore on August 24, 2019, 06:16:45 PM
Off Topic Re Men-65
It is a 2001 Moto Guzzi Aluminium Special Sport.

Alas it belongs to a mate of mine that I have known since the first day of school. We have ridden countless K's together over the years.

Unfortunately he had a big off on it after having done over 200,000 K's on it without much done to it other than service, new clutch and some personal mods.

It had a smashed rear weel that I replaced , and the right cylinder barbell and head including the valve gear is all smashed up.

There are also a few other issues however nothing that can't be sorted.

I wil get around to resurrection of this beast however there is no rush as after 14 months my mate is still recovering.

The ST takes precedence at the moment though.

There is also a an X75 Hurricane in the cave part way through a resto as well !

Where is the best place to get a timing belt ?
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Sicman on August 24, 2019, 06:46:15 PM
For braided brake lines talk to Pedders - They usually know someone who makes them to order, or can come to you to make them onsite to suit your build  :thumb
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: alans1100 on August 24, 2019, 07:11:32 PM
Most tend to use either OEM or Gates who probably make the Honda ones anyway.

https://www.gates.com/us/en/ymm/search/vehicle/result?equipment-clazz=Recreational+Vehicles&vehicle-type=Motorcycles&year=2000&make=Honda&model=ST1100&engine=1100cc (https://www.gates.com/us/en/ymm/search/vehicle/result?equipment-clazz=Recreational+Vehicles&vehicle-type=Motorcycles&year=2000&make=Honda&model=ST1100&engine=1100cc)

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Gates-T325-Timing-Belt/123768173062 (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Gates-T325-Timing-Belt/123768173062)    AU $86.14 with free postage.
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Kenmoore on September 03, 2019, 09:17:59 PM
Sorry for the late reply.

Thanks for the info on the timing belt.

It is on its way.

The more I look the more I see.

When I do rest is like this I tend to amass bits and pieces and then attack.

At the moment I am debating wether to overhaul the calipers or buy some working items from a wrecker and just do the pads.

At the moment the wreckers are in front from a cost point.

With builds like this I factor in costs and time.Although time is not a cost it is still important.

I have a budget of $50- per week on this so it won't be a fast build however I have some clear ideas on what I want the end product to be.

Something a little different from a standard ST, more along the bagger line.

Stay tuned ,

I have some commitments that are also slowing things down.

Pics will come as it progresses , starting at the front and finishing at the rear is what I have planned .

Any help or suggestions will be and are appreciated and if anyone has any parts that are surplus to their needs I am always interested.

So far I have a new battery, oil , oil filter, new air filter and some much needed stainless fasteners.

There is a timing belt on its way.

I need a new left side rocker cover if anyone has one.

Not the last part I will need but findapart is always handy for odds and sods.

Bye for now,

There won't be much progress after this week as I am going to the annual Ragged Fringe rally up at Gloucester next weekend.

Cheers For Now
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Brock on September 03, 2019, 10:25:55 PM
I would recommend new brakes, ( I replaced my front callipers) the ones from a wrecker may have a problem so may incur extra cost to re-replace.
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: Gerard & Sandra on September 04, 2019, 03:59:18 PM
A bit late but welcome from near Toowoomba Qld
Rgds
GB
Title: Re: New Project
Post by: STeveo on September 04, 2019, 04:17:17 PM
These (and many others in China) have various lengths for cheap.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/M10-Flexible-Brake-Oil-Line-Hose-Banjo-Fitting-Stainless-Steel-Braided-70cm-28/181877754550?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/M10-Flexible-Brake-Oil-Line-Hose-Banjo-Fitting-Stainless-Steel-Braided-70cm-28/181877754550?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649)