Author Topic: oil filters (Read 33512 times)

Mark · « **Reply #25 on:** October 24, 2011, 04:06:36 PM »

FYI

When I first got my bike, I purchase a genuine Honda filter (ST1100) from David Silver Spares (UK), the filter comes with a free filter removal tool.

Well, over this weekend I was trying to get the damn filter off my 4 cyl 2009 Camry sedan, the dealer must have put in on with damn threadlock or something (I do every second oil and filter, so the dealer gets once a year).

My normal strap wrench was crushing the outside of the filter as I was trying to get it off. So I then thought I would just see if this tool fits the Camry oil filter. And it does. Put my half in drive socket set on it, and off with very little effort.

Gavo · « **Reply #26 on:** October 24, 2011, 07:39:02 PM »

Does anybody have a Ryco or Repco oil filter number suitable for the 1300 im guessing the Z436 and thr ROF 135 is for 1100

saaz · « **Reply #27 on:** October 24, 2011, 08:06:39 PM »

Z436 and valvoline VO33 are for the ST1100. I will have a look to see if the ST13 uses the same, as I know Honda rationalised its range of filters and magically one filter now fits more than one model!

I also admit to servicing a camry 4 cylinder, but it is not my car :)

saaz · « **Reply #28 on:** October 24, 2011, 08:31:09 PM »

Ok, just checked online with US OEM part suppliers, and Honda now recommends the same part number for the oil filter for the ST1100 and the ST1300 (15410-MFJ-D01), and for a lot of other models it seems. So the Ryco Z436 and Valvoline v033 will work, as will any other brand that is equivalent (the Ryco and valvoline are the same dimensions as the Honda OEM - a slightly longer filter will fit on the ST11 but I don't know how tight the ST13 space is). I like the Pure one filters but Supercheap stopped selling them. I have used Ryco and valvoline filters for many years in cars no problems. If Honda did not love to keep their filters rather than sell them I would use them.

rendog · « **Reply #29 on:** October 25, 2011, 06:40:00 PM »

Being uber geeky

I use a Z411 because the relief pressure is lower than the Z436

saaz · « **Reply #30 on:** October 25, 2011, 06:54:50 PM »

Thats geeky allright :) Is lower relief pressure better, as that bypasses the filter?

Gavo · « **Reply #31 on:** October 28, 2011, 01:06:33 PM »

Im guessing when the oil filter blocks up you still got flow

Apache · « **Reply #32 on:** December 27, 2011, 07:25:30 PM »

Sorry for my ignorance but am i reading this right ... that you guys are running engine oil designed for a diesel engine?

... im looking at dropping my fluids so if this is the go then i'll do it to if its good for her

saaz · « **Reply #33 on:** December 27, 2011, 07:38:26 PM »

Instead of thinking about the oil as diesel oil, think of it as really heavy duty oil that is rated for long service and harsh conditions ( a HDEO - heavy duty engine oil). It has to be rated for petrol engine use, but most of the diesel oils have extra anti wear additives that do not meet the latest petrol oil standards due to the effect on catalytic converters and fuel economy standards. Most normal car oils will have a diesel oil rating as well, but it is usually a really old outdated diesel oil standard as they just don't have all the robust additives.

Apache · « **Reply #34 on:** December 27, 2011, 07:44:54 PM »

Cool so the consensus is that the Penrite HPR 15 Diesel oil with the ryco Z436 filter is the go?

Brock · « **Reply #35 on:** December 27, 2011, 07:52:31 PM »

The reason for using a diesel rated oil, is that it seems to smooth out the gear changes, and maybe quieten the jetson whine slightly. Also, if a diesel can do 20000Ks or more between changes then there is no reason our ST motors cant as well.

saaz · « **Reply #36 on:** December 27, 2011, 07:55:38 PM »

You can't go wrong lets say. The ST11 and ST13 are easy on oil from all the all reports I have seen. The penrite oil is better than the standard Honda recommendation (their own 10W-40 - how about that!) that easily goes for 12500kms between oil changes.

I like the jetson whine, but it is a bit more noticeable on the ST13 - it sounds odd to me at idle but great once you are going.

Apache · « **Reply #37 on:** December 27, 2011, 10:08:09 PM »

Thanks for clearing that up lads! ... Tho if it will quieten the whine i might have to reconsider lol ... I really like that on my ST13

... Question ... Why is it called a jeston Whine??? is it something to do with the cartoon? The Jetsons or is there a part in the bike that makes that noise called the jetson?

Brock · « **Reply #38 on:** December 27, 2011, 10:39:03 PM »

From the cartoon, its the sound of the Jetson aircar

alans1100 · « **Reply #39 on:** December 28, 2011, 01:50:18 AM »

I generally use after market filters from the states. Some sell on E-bay as well.

If the motorcycle industry does a similar thing to the automotive industry then a lot of aftermarket stuff is made by the same OE companies

The last time I bought two for the same price for one a local Honda dealer. I also bought the filter and remover from david silver spares UK which makes it easier.

Now I seem to be missing something here.

I have yet to experience what you call the Jetson noise on my 1100.

Alan

scarp · « **Reply #40 on:** December 28, 2011, 09:35:28 AM »

Quote from: Apache on December 27, 2011, 07:44:54 PM

Cool so the consensus is that the Penrite HPR 15 Diesel oil with the ryco Z436 filter is the go?

Let me know how the filter change went coz I'll be doing the same me thinks

Gavo · « **Reply #41 on:** December 28, 2011, 12:11:42 PM »

Im using the Z436 at one turd the price of Honda

no problem there.

Apache · « **Reply #42 on:** December 28, 2011, 12:51:08 PM »

Well just got my z436 filter and penrite diesel oil. Came to a grand total of $49 lol. Will let yaz know how it goes ;-)

scarp · « **Reply #43 on:** December 28, 2011, 01:48:04 PM »

Quote from: Gavo on December 28, 2011, 12:11:42 PM

Im using the Z436 at one turd the price of Honda no problem there.

So how much are the Honda ones? I've only had mine done at the dealers

Gavo · « **Reply #44 on:** December 28, 2011, 02:39:29 PM »

Invoiced out at tirdy bucks at a time $30.00

Malcolm6112 · « **Reply #45 on:** December 28, 2011, 02:40:50 PM »

I have Gen filters I bought from America.

$10 love you long time.

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Brock · « **Reply #46 on:** December 28, 2011, 02:41:38 PM »

Honda oil filters are around $40.00

Malcolm6112 · « **Reply #47 on:** December 28, 2011, 03:04:47 PM »

try $25.

I bought one about 6 months ago, before getting them from america.

Brock · « **Reply #48 on:** December 28, 2011, 03:17:27 PM »

well it was a long time ago, only ever bought one and been using Reco ROF 135

scarp · « **Reply #49 on:** December 28, 2011, 05:24:20 PM »

I must admit that untill I start doing a lot more k'ms on the bike I'll keep using the Honda filter I do a change bout every 6 months then put it into the dealers for a service once a year coz ATM I'm doing about 6,000 kms a year, pretty slack eh!

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