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Title: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: Gnomad42 on August 06, 2015, 06:44:26 PM
As a new ST owner, I'm just coming to the realisation of how bloody heavy these bikes are.
I ride down the driveway at the side of the house and lock up in the garage, where there is just enough space to put the bike & close the door.
My problem comes the next day, when I've backed out of the garage, & want to face the road.

Does anyone have any tips, tricks or sage advice on turning an ST around 180 degrees in the width of a driveway, without requiring them to do a nine point turn?

All I can think of is installing a lazy susan (nicked from the BBQ table) on the driveway, and balancing the centre stand on that to rotate the bike.
I'm stuffed, mentally & physically before I hop on to go to Uni!
Thanks for any serious, or amusing, advice.

Reyn
Title: Re: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: Brock on August 06, 2015, 07:00:16 PM
Park it on a tin try with centre stand down. Press down on the rear to lift front wheel, and turn it around.
Title: Re: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: ST2UP on August 06, 2015, 07:02:26 PM
Is your driveway concrete or bitumen ?? If so, You could use a piece of light gal or pressed tin under the centre stand about 350mm sq.....bike will pivot around in its own length by putting enough pressure down on the rear of the bike to have stand only touching the ground.......if the bike stand slides on the tin just paint the bike side of the tin with some paint and throw a hand full of dry sand on the paint well before it dries.


Cheers
Title: Re: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: ST2UP on August 06, 2015, 07:03:06 PM
Ah brock you where quick  :-++
Title: Re: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: Gnomad42 on August 06, 2015, 07:17:13 PM
Is your driveway concrete or bitumen ?? If so, You could use a piece of light gal or pressed tin under the centre stand about 350mm sq.....bike will pivot around in its own length by putting enough pressure down on the rear of the bike to have stand only touching the ground.......if the bike stand slides on the tin just paint the bike side of the tin with some paint and throw a hand full of dry sand on the paint well before it dries.


Cheers
Concrete wheel ruts with grass around.

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Title: Re: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: Gnomad42 on August 06, 2015, 07:18:41 PM
Ah brock you where quick  :-++
Thanks guys, I'll see what I can work up on the weekend

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Title: Re: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: PC on August 06, 2015, 07:39:37 PM
     
the thin plastic cutting boards from the kitchen work a treat            they slip on the concrete a little easier

      however removing them from the kitchen can be tricky

  Peter
Title: Re: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: richo on August 06, 2015, 07:47:55 PM
There are heaps of options when you google bike turntable.   The st forum in the U.S.  Has a thread on this.   I found a web site    http://www.pashnitmoto.com/park-move-p/ls-pnm.htm. (http://www.pashnitmoto.com/park-move-p/ls-pnm.htm.)   This could be done on a weekend with the right toys.   
Title: Re: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: Abe on August 06, 2015, 07:48:54 PM
As a new ST owner, I'm just coming to the realisation of how bloody heavy these bikes are.
I ride down the driveway at the side of the house and lock up in the garage, where there is just enough space to put the bike & close the door.
My problem comes the next day, when I've backed out of the garage, & want to face the road.

Does anyone have any tips, tricks or sage advice on turning an ST around 180 degrees in the width of a driveway, without requiring them to do a nine point turn?

All I can think of is installing a lazy susan (nicked from the BBQ table) on the driveway, and balancing the centre stand on that to rotate the bike.
I'm stuffed, mentally & physically before I hop on to go to Uni!
Thanks for any serious, or amusing, advice.


I put a little video clip sometime ago on here for turning my 1300 around in the garage.  I'll try and find the link for you and post.  It's just a thin polymer chopping board.  Note, the 1300 is easier to spin around then my 1100 (different centre of gravity). If your spinning around on the grass, you may want to use plywood.  Tipping over may be an issue on grass  :think1
Reyn
Title: Re: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: Gnomad42 on August 06, 2015, 08:02:23 PM
     
the thin plastic cutting boards from the kitchen work a treat            they slip on the concrete a little easier

      however removing them from the kitchen can be tricky

  Peter
Middle aged & divorced. My kitchen, my board 😊.

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Title: Re: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: Gnomad42 on August 06, 2015, 10:10:24 PM
As a new ST owner, I'm just coming to the realisation of how bloody heavy these bikes are.
I ride down the driveway at the side of the house and lock up in the garage, where there is just enough space to put the bike & close the door.
My problem comes the next day, when I've backed out of the garage, & want to face the road.

Does anyone have any tips, tricks or sage advice on turning an ST around 180 degrees in the width of a driveway, without requiring them to do a nine point turn?

All I can think of is installing a lazy susan (nicked from the BBQ table) on the driveway, and balancing the centre stand on that to rotate the bike.
I'm stuffed, mentally & physically before I hop on to go to Uni!
Thanks for any serious, or amusing, advice.


I put a little video clip sometime ago on here for turning my 1300 around in the garage.  I'll try and find the link for you and post.  It's just a thin polymer chopping board.  Note, the 1300 is easier to spin around then my 1100 (different centre of gravity). If your spinning around on the grass, you may want to use plywood.  Tipping over may be an issue on grass  :think1
Reyn
Thanks Abe. I should be able to set up some boards on the concrete of the garage floor.

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Title: Re: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: Abe on August 07, 2015, 08:45:16 AM
Have a look at this Reyn,

http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=5541.msg62354#msg62354 (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=5541.msg62354#msg62354)

Some people put a piece of board under the front tyre also to assist in getting the bike on the centre stand.

If you use a baking tray or similar, don't forget to move it from under the bike before riding off  :|||| or you will need another tray.
Title: Re: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: Biggles on August 07, 2015, 11:17:10 AM

Some people put a piece of board under the front tyre also to assist in getting the bike on the centre stand.


It's under the back wheel, actually.  Just for those of us who find throwing a 300+ kg bike up 3 inches a challenge.
Only needs to be 17 or 18 mm thick.
Title: Re: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: Abe on August 07, 2015, 01:44:32 PM

Some people put a piece of board under the front tyre also to assist in getting the bike on the centre stand.


It's under the back wheel, actually.  Just for those of us who find throwing a 300+ kg bike up 3 inches a challenge.
Only needs to be 17 or 18 mm thick.

I tried under the back tyre Biggles, but I found under the front tyre a little better as the weight is on the front.

Yeap I agree, the bike isn't getting any lighter as I get older.

Title: Re: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: alans1100 on August 07, 2015, 02:48:29 PM
I know very few people do this but I just leave mine out front of the house. Ride in and ride out. Most times (if I remember) the cover gets put on the bike otherwise it's ready to roll.
Title: Re: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: Gnomad42 on August 07, 2015, 03:54:40 PM
Hi Allan,
Sadly I'm in a narrow street full of 4x4's (including mine), so there is the worry of it being clipped on the way past.
That & the dodgy Harley owners 2 doors up.
Reyn
Title: Re: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: Gnomad42 on August 07, 2015, 03:57:36 PM
That look like being my initial experiment Abe.
I do notice though, that in the end you did weld up a full length drainage channel on wheels for your bike.
Reyn

Have a look at this Reyn,

[url]http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=5541.msg62354#msg62354[/url] ([url]http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=5541.msg62354#msg62354[/url])

Some people put a piece of board under the front tyre also to assist in getting the bike on the centre stand.

If you use a baking tray or similar, don't forget to move it from under the bike before riding off  :|||| or you will need another tray.
Title: Re: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: Biggles on August 07, 2015, 06:46:21 PM

I tried under the back tyre Biggles, but I found under the front tyre a little better as the weight is on the front.


I'll have to try that- didn't seem as intuitive as using the back wheel.  What thickness works for the front?  It's sure to be more since it's further from the centre stand.
Title: Re: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: Abe on August 07, 2015, 08:30:37 PM

I tried under the back tyre Biggles, but I found under the front tyre a little better as the weight is on the front.


I'll have to try that- didn't seem as intuitive as using the back wheel.  What thickness works for the front?  It's sure to be more since it's further from the centre stand.

15-16mm ply, BUT, put the chopping board under the SIDE STAND, so the bike doesn't want to go to sleep on the nearside when you hop off  ;-* then move the chopping board under the centre stand with your foot, then lift.
Title: Re: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: Abe on August 07, 2015, 08:36:25 PM
Reyn,
"That look like being my initial experiment Abe.
I do notice though, that in the end you did weld up a full length drainage channel on wheels for your bike.
Reyn
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That was a project my son and I did for the 1100 so I could drive on/rotate the bike and move the bike against the wall to allow the 1300 and the car into the garage  :thumb
Title: Re: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: Biggles on August 07, 2015, 10:02:07 PM
15-16mm ply, BUT, put the chopping board under the SIDE STAND, so the bike doesn't want to go to sleep on the nearside when you hop off  ;-* then move the chopping board under the centre stand with your foot, then lift.

Man!  This is getting more complicated all the time!  Why do you put the chopping board under the centre stand before deploying the centre stand?  I don't need the extra height!  In fact, I'd struggle to get the bike off the centre stand if it were any higher than normal. 

I agree having the rear wheel (in my case) up on the timber board makes the bike lean a fair bit more on the side stand, but it doesn't look anywhere near toppling.
Title: Re: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: Brock on August 08, 2015, 11:00:50 AM
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chopping board under the SIDE STAND, so the bike doesn't want to go to sleep

I think your comprehension skill are slipping Biggles
Title: Re: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: Phil.S on August 08, 2015, 03:16:55 PM
I have to ride up my driveway to the road with limited room at the bottom so turning the bike around down there is difficult so I roll the bike down backwards into the garage.
Title: Re: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: Biggles on August 08, 2015, 09:55:18 PM
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chopping board under the SIDE STAND, so the bike doesn't want to go to sleep

I think your comprehension skill are slipping Biggles

Nah.  It's me glasses.    :p
Title: Re: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: Shaun on August 09, 2015, 03:28:52 PM
Probably not an option if you are needing this sort of solution, but how steep is the driveway? Is it not possible to, when you are coming back into the driveway, back in slowly using either your front brake or gentle clutch disengagement to control the descent? That way you are facing the right way at the end.
Title: Re: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: Sicman on August 09, 2015, 04:06:22 PM
The solution my fine feathered friends is ...... get a bigger shed. That will solve the issue  :thumbs  :grin
Title: Re: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: Gnomad42 on August 09, 2015, 04:38:01 PM
The solution my fine feathered friends is ...... get a bigger shed. That will solve the issue  :thumbs  :grin
Actually a 6mtr x 6mtr shed. To much crap though.

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Title: Re: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: Gnomad42 on August 09, 2015, 04:39:04 PM
Probably not an option if you are needing this sort of solution, but how steep is the driveway? Is it not possible to, when you are coming back into the driveway, back in slowly using either your front brake or gentle clutch disengagement to control the descent? That way you are facing the right way at the end.
Not steep, but there is a ramp into the shed I don't want to drag a bike up.

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Title: Re: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: Gnomad42 on August 09, 2015, 04:42:50 PM
15-16mm ply, BUT, put the chopping board under the SIDE STAND, so the bike doesn't want to go to sleep on the nearside when you hop off  ;-* then move the chopping board under the centre stand with your foot, then lift.

Man!  This is getting more complicated all the time!  Why do you put the chopping board under the centre stand before deploying the centre stand?  I don't need the extra height!  In fact, I'd struggle to get the bike off the centre stand if it were any higher than normal. 

I agree having the rear wheel (in my case) up on the timber board makes the bike lean a fair bit more on the side stand, but it doesn't look anywhere near toppling.
I found a very thin chopping board (about 5 mm), & after moving sone more crap out of the way it worked a treat, after the front wheel knocked over the 2.5 mtr long awning I've been meaning to put on the landcruiser for a year.
Which crashed into other stuff and knocked about a dozen other things over/off... I'd better do something about the shed 😕

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Title: Re: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: richo on August 09, 2015, 04:57:24 PM
 :whistle. The solving of one problem has revealed another.  Time to invite the Gang around for A  shed clean up.  BUT remember to only open the beer fridge when the shed clean up is done other wise you will end up with an empty fridge and full shed.  :Whipped
Title: Re: A Turn about for the cards
Post by: Sicman on August 09, 2015, 08:20:51 PM
:whistle.other wise you will end up with an empty fridge and full shed.  :Whipped
Gee Richo - Their not that bad - Thats only happened at least 100 times since this place was founded - Eh Diesel  :rofl :beer :beer