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Title: Led indicator Problems
Post by: Bill Held on November 03, 2015, 05:45:35 PM
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Good evening everyone.
Today I had LED globes installed on the ST1300.
LED Tail lights and indicator globes at the rear.
LED In the front.
At the rear 2 x 4 wire resistors were installed but when the fronts were installed with or without the resistors
the indicators flash much faster than allowed.
As a stop gap the standard globes were put back in place.
All indicators are working but without the LED globes in the front.
Here's hoping that someone has come across this before and really has a fix or is able to direct me to someone that does.
Many thanks in advance
 :blu13
GOF54
Title: Re: Led indicator Problems
Post by: alans1100 on November 03, 2015, 06:00:17 PM
I was considering going LED on my 1100 and this relay would do the trick for the indicators.

http://www.intobikes.co.uk/products/001536/Bike-It-LED-Indicator-Relay?rg=12&search=led+indicator+relay&sg=AND&sf=match&sd=DESC (http://www.intobikes.co.uk/products/001536/Bike-It-LED-Indicator-Relay?rg=12&search=led+indicator+relay&sg=AND&sf=match&sd=DESC)

I would have used these globes.

http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/380-Ultimate-Canbus-92-SMD-LED-Bulb.html (http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/380-Ultimate-Canbus-92-SMD-LED-Bulb.html)

Title: Re: Led indicator Problems
Post by: Bill Held on November 03, 2015, 06:06:16 PM
Thanks Alan,
The mechanic has said that it appears to be a hiccup when the resistor is installed.
I did ask about the relay and was told that that isn't the problem.
The globes used are T10 wedge 12V 5/20 dual filament on the tail lights and single filament 12V 20
 :blu13
GOF54
Title: Re: Led indicator Problems
Post by: Brock on November 03, 2015, 07:11:00 PM
replace the flasher relay with an electronic one, and the problem will be solved.
Title: Re: Led indicator Problems
Post by: Bill Held on November 03, 2015, 07:11:49 PM
Thanks Brock. Will do that tomorrow.

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Title: Re: Led indicator Problems
Post by: Bill Held on November 03, 2015, 07:27:50 PM
Hello again Brock,
Is there any difference between electronic and or LED Flasher Unit.
 :blu13
GOF54
Title: Re: Led indicator Problems
Post by: Gadget on November 03, 2015, 07:35:33 PM
What Brock said.

The electronic flasher cans us a timer circuit, whereas the original flasher cans use a bi-metallic strip (2 metals bonded together with different thermal coefficients of expansion) and the current draw bends the strip breaking the circuit. Once the circuit is broken the strip cools and remakes the circuit.

The LEDs don't draw enough current to make the strip bend far enough away for a slower flash rate so it doesn't have so far to return when it cools resulting in the faster flash rate.

The upside is you instantly know you have a blown incandescent bulb.

Title: Re: Led indicator Problems
Post by: Gadget on November 03, 2015, 07:36:59 PM
GOF54,

I suspect the LED ones are also electronic. I'm curious if there is a price difference?
Title: Re: Led indicator Problems
Post by: Brock on November 03, 2015, 07:39:52 PM
I think the electronic are a bit more expensive, but sre very stable and reliable.
Title: Re: Led indicator Problems
Post by: Bill Held on November 03, 2015, 07:44:11 PM
You guys are bloody awesome. Many thanks all.
GOF54

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Title: Re: Led indicator Problems
Post by: Brock on November 03, 2015, 07:51:22 PM
We are aren't we

 o:) o:)
Title: Re: Led indicator Problems
Post by: Crocman on November 03, 2015, 08:04:21 PM
I used these in my latest mod and they work very well http://www.ebay.com/itm/191599785463 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/191599785463)

I got a small demo here http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=10106.msg1186846#msg1186846 (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=10106.msg1186846#msg1186846)
Title: Re: Led indicator Problems
Post by: Bill Held on November 04, 2015, 04:33:42 PM
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Hello again to the guys that were able to offer an idea on which way to solve the above problem.
The fix was a 2 pin electronic flasher unit from Honda as per Brock's suggestion.
Never seen one this shape before in any accessory store but then Honda do have different from the norm H4 globes for their headlights.
Happy chappy now so thanks once again all.
GOF54 :blu13
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Title: Re: Led indicator Problems
Post by: Bill Held on November 04, 2015, 04:40:59 PM
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Hey Gadget,

sorry cannot elaborate on what the costs were because of all the time taken yesterday
there was no charge for the electronic flasher unit.
Sorry Gary.

GOF54
 :blu13
Title: Re: Led indicator Problems
Post by: Gadget on November 04, 2015, 06:00:16 PM
Glad it is all sorted.  :runyay
Title: Re: Led indicator Problems
Post by: Brock on November 04, 2015, 08:20:21 PM
Excellent.... :like :like :like