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Farkles, Gear & Accessories => Lights and Lighting => Topic started by: Diesel on October 19, 2012, 07:38:50 AM

Title: The next big thing in automotive lighting.... LED Racks...
Post by: Diesel on October 19, 2012, 07:38:50 AM
Apart from Adaptive Headlight lighting (which lets you see around corners when leaning the bike)....

Adaptive headlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN12Ruex3m0#ws)

Looks like these low-amp hi-intensity LED arrays are all the rage now - and they'd fit snugly on your ST too...

https://4wdchip.infusionsoft.com/app/storeFront/showProductDetail?productId=316# (https://4wdchip.infusionsoft.com/app/storeFront/showProductDetail?productId=316#)

Comes in a double sized array as well.

Cheers, Diesel
Title: Re: The next big thing in automotive lighting.... LED Racks...
Post by: Biggles on October 19, 2012, 11:43:51 AM
OK, the ST13 is 38 inches wide.  Let's put on the 40" version.  Just $649.  Not much more expensive to what the FarRider dudes are bolting on, and they're only getting two little round lights!
Title: Re: The next big thing in automotive lighting.... LED Racks...
Post by: Brock on October 19, 2012, 11:58:00 AM
Great for Lane splitting, the cages would have to see you coming.. :grin :grin :grin :grin :grin
Title: Re: The next big thing in automotive lighting.... LED Racks...
Post by: saaz on October 19, 2012, 11:59:38 AM
You only have to spend $200 tops for 2 x 55W HIDs.  Growly bought a small LED one along last night.  It was very heavy, so don't know what the big ones weigh.
Title: Re: The next big thing in automotive lighting.... LED Racks...
Post by: Biggles on October 19, 2012, 10:42:26 PM
You only have to spend $200 tops for 2 x 55W HIDs.  Growly bought a small LED one along last night.  It was very heavy, so don't know what the big ones weigh.

I was thinking of the cost of the very bright LED driving lights.
Title: Re: The next big thing in automotive lighting.... LED Racks...
Post by: alphafang on October 20, 2012, 01:23:25 AM
As we don't have steering wheels and lean to go around corners I don't see how these would benefit a motorcycle.
This is nothing new in the trade it's been around since the thirties, see Tatra.
Title: Re: The next big thing in automotive lighting.... LED Racks...
Post by: alans1100 on October 20, 2012, 01:42:35 AM
As we don't have steering wheels and lean to go around corners I don't see how these would benefit a motorcycle.
This is nothing new in the trade it's been around since the thirties, see Tatra.

Citroens have had this for years......sometime in mid '60's
Title: Re: The next big thing in automotive lighting.... LED Racks...
Post by: saaz on October 20, 2012, 08:37:58 AM
The BMW 1600 has a headlight that points in the direction you are going, using some sort of gyroscope for moving the headlight.

As we don't have steering wheels and lean to go around corners I don't see how these would benefit a motorcycle.
This is nothing new in the trade it's been around since the thirties, see Tatra.

Title: Re: The next big thing in automotive lighting.... LED Racks...
Post by: saaz on October 20, 2012, 09:01:29 AM
They do seem quite expensive for what they are.  Main advantage I can see is that they come on straight away, so may compliment HIDs, and could be turned down to be used as daytime running lights.  In a few years they will be more practical. I read somewhere that the latest Ducati Multistrada has LED lights - anyone with experience of old Italian electrics might have the horrors at the thought of that!

You only have to spend $200 tops for 2 x 55W HIDs.  Growly bought a small LED one along last night.  It was very heavy, so don't know what the big ones weigh.

I was thinking of the cost of the very bright LED driving lights.
Title: Re: The next big thing in automotive lighting.... LED Racks...
Post by: Diesel on October 20, 2012, 09:39:20 AM
BMW K 1600 GT | Adaptive Headlight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRqHmPia1rs#ws)

Just beat me to it.
Title: Re: The next big thing in automotive lighting.... LED Racks...
Post by: Brock on October 20, 2012, 09:47:09 AM
hmm, some thing expensive and complex to fix
Title: Re: The next big thing in automotive lighting.... LED Racks...
Post by: alphafang on October 20, 2012, 10:39:48 AM
Not knocking the idea Diesel, but they can do wonders with CGI let me see the real thing and I will believe it.  To be honest the way they have the standard headlight performing in that bit of CGI looks very unlike what I see on my bike. Proof of the pudding is in the eating as they say. So if someone wants to lend me a K1600gt for a while I will give it a good road test and get back to you.
Title: Re: The next big thing in automotive lighting.... LED Racks...
Post by: saaz on October 20, 2012, 10:57:07 AM
Unfortunately I have not seen any real world reviews. Seems reporters don't go out at night in all conditions, and it depends on their experince of what is 'good' in terms of headlights. An old Australian review of the ST11 said the lights were great..and perhaps they were ok benchmarked against what was around then.  As I had decent lighting on my Suzuki at that time, I would given the ST11s light a fail mark.

Title: Re: The next big thing in automotive lighting.... LED Racks...
Post by: Diesel on October 20, 2012, 08:16:49 PM
Not knocking the idea Diesel, but they can do wonders with CGI let me see the real thing and I will believe it.  To be honest the way they have the standard headlight performing in that bit of CGI looks very unlike what I see on my bike.

I hear ya Paul - but keep these 2 things in mind:
- Someone said to the Germans "make zis virk!" - so it will!
- I see from the sim that the headlights are normal, this seems to be an ingenious AUX light that will provide a little extra (extraneous) illumination further around the bend than the standard headlight array.

Cheers, Diesel