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Honda ST1100 Section => Oils, Oil Filters & Servicing ST1100 => Topic started by: rocketeer on March 08, 2012, 09:41:47 PM

Title: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: rocketeer on March 08, 2012, 09:41:47 PM
Guys,

Temporary thread for WA people interested in a group buy.

Post in here what you are after, and what sort of date you want to take delivery and I'll organise the rest.

Cheers,

Brad
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: Malcolm6112 on March 09, 2012, 12:06:05 AM
Hi Brad,
I've been watching the posts with interest.
How much in quantity are you thinking about?
How much per litre?

 :blu13
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: rocketeer on March 09, 2012, 06:41:11 AM
Hi there Malcolm, I've probably like to get at least 20 litres on it's way at a time, so 4 people getting 5 litres each, trying to keep it to multiples of 20. Just thinking 4 x 5 litre packs per carton (or20 litre pails) keeps transport economical
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: Brock on March 09, 2012, 07:46:09 PM
Brad,

Put me down for the PM412LA 5ltrs.

If 3 others in the Perth area want the same, I will order the case, and pay for it. I will collect on delivery.

On second thought, I have just sent an email to arrange a carton of the stuff. :thumbs :thumbsup

I will do an oil and filter change after I get back from Thailand. :rofl :crackup :beer
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: Mitch on March 09, 2012, 11:52:04 PM
 Hi Brock
             Put me down for 5ltrs of PM412LA   :grin

                  :blk13
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: Brock on March 10, 2012, 07:39:53 AM
Done,

Two bottles to go :thumb
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: Gavo on March 10, 2012, 01:13:35 PM
Make that three i like the wear check  :thumbs
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: Brock on March 10, 2012, 03:09:06 PM
OK, thats me , Mitch and Gavo. One bottle left
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: JohnoJ on March 10, 2012, 08:07:36 PM
Put me down for the forth one? :thumb
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: Brock on March 10, 2012, 10:51:13 PM
Done,

Now to get the order in.
 :thumbsup
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: rocketeer on March 11, 2012, 06:05:41 PM
Hi guys thank you very much for the interest.

Firstly, I am happy to mix viscosities in the box, it doesn't all have to be the one oil, it's mostly to use the space in the box for transport cost effectiveness.

Now for your bikes, I would prefer to see higher viscosities used.  Particularly in high heat, PM412 SAE15w40 or even PM403 SAE 20w50 (20w50 would clean up notchy gearchanges more) would be more suitable.  If you are currently running 10w40, or if you want to run a full synthetic, then PM421LA would do the job.  I have a lot of faith in that oil but my belief is it's just not the right one for the job.

I'm happy to supply the synthetic, but just want to make sure I am helping you guys make the best choice.

Brad
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: rocketeer on March 11, 2012, 06:07:04 PM
If it were my bike, I would probably opt for the 20w50, taking into account ambient heat.
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: Brock on March 11, 2012, 06:26:48 PM
I was tossing that up in my head, If the other guys let me know what they decide, I will firm up the order.

I will change to the 403. Will this include the oil testing ( tho it may take a while before it can be done) it would be interesting to see what it says about the engines/transmission. and do wee supply the sample bottles (not a problem I can get some at work)

So far it will be 1 x 403 and 3 to be decided.

Thanks for all the effort, who knows, if you can sell us a bunch of oil then the next beer will come out of your Xmas bonus. :grin :grin
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: JohnoJ on March 11, 2012, 07:09:14 PM
I currently run with 10 w 30 in a 1100  But I am keen to try PM403 SAE 20w50  for a smoother gear change no clunk.
I thought Brock, you worked at the air base not at a Pathology clinic for the sample bottles?
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: Brock on March 11, 2012, 07:41:55 PM
Oil sample bottles, we take ( or the sumpies do) samples of the engine oil to test for bearing wear. In a high speed turbine engine its a little important to keep an eye on things.

OK thats nor 2 for the 403, now to hear from mitch and Gavo and the order will go in.
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: Mitch on March 11, 2012, 07:42:11 PM
 PM 403 for me thanks.    :thumbsup

               :blk13
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: Brock on March 11, 2012, 07:45:24 PM
3 x 403  Done.
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: rocketeer on March 11, 2012, 09:41:27 PM
Sounds good guys. 

Brock- I can supply a few sample pots- for cost and ease of use I just use sample bottles from the chemist.  Remind me and I will throw a few into the box if that's easier than getting your hands on a few.  All oils include testing, so at any time feel free to send a sample through.  Sounds like you are used to getting oil analysis- this will be a graded pass/ fail test carried out on dielectric machinery, which we use as a first on site test, the results of which guide whether analysis is required. 

Johnoj  is that an early ST1100, or later (2001 on) ST1100a?  Either way coming from that ultra light viscosity you will see vastly improved gearchanges and quieter motor.  It will be interesting to see how your fuel economy goes, I expect to see it improve but going from the ultra thin to a 20w50 may see no improvement or slightly less k's per tank, if you know your bike really well and how many k's you get for what sort of run to see how your economy goes, but there is no doubt she will be a much nicer machine to ride.  Please keep me posted!



Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: JohnoJ on March 11, 2012, 09:53:56 PM
early 1100p :wht11
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: rocketeer on March 11, 2012, 10:22:11 PM
Perfect
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: Gavo on March 12, 2012, 12:03:36 AM
Ok make that 4 x 403  :thumb
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: Brock on March 12, 2012, 08:20:55 AM
Cool, I will contact Brad soon.
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: Brock on March 12, 2012, 12:36:55 PM
Sample bottles x 4 obtained, I will put one with each oil bottle.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/Avtrician/20120312_102527.jpg)
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: rocketeer on March 15, 2012, 08:36:57 PM
Ok guys,  I have been in touch with Brock, it looks like I can get an order off to you guys very soon.  Just awaiting confirmation that a funds transfer has been made, and everything looks as it should do.

I am absorbing the cost of delivery to WA.  So you have only the cost of the product itself.  Cost per 5 litre bottle PM403 = $64.   Quoted carton cost $256. 

Watch this space, I will update everyone as to the status of the order and when to expect to be able to pick it up from Brock.

PLEASE let me know STRAIGHT AWAY if I have made a mistake with either the order, or if you cannot pick it up from Brock.  WA is a long way to go to fix a mistake once it gets there!!  Also I would like your feedback, good bad or indifferent.  My mobile number below if need be.

Cheers,

Brad
0406 766 106
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: Brock on March 20, 2012, 07:17:50 PM
1st load is ordered, and will be on its way over soon.
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: Mitch on March 20, 2012, 07:37:17 PM
 Great work Brock. :thumbsup
       :blk13
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: Brock on March 29, 2012, 05:19:46 PM
The oil is here, Thanks Brad.

Now just have to ditribute it by Saturday.

Three (maybe four) options.

1, Pick up from central point tomorrow (Friday)

2, Pick up from central point Saturday

3,  Pick up from my house Saturday (or Burns Beach coffee shop from 1530)

4, wait til the end of april to organise collection.
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: Mitch on March 29, 2012, 06:42:17 PM
  Well done Brad and Brock,   :-++ :-++
         Saturday works best fo me, how much do I owe? :grin
                                            :blk13
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: JohnoJ on March 29, 2012, 06:50:28 PM
Saturday will work for me. Name the destination 2or3 :wht11
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: JohnoJ on March 29, 2012, 06:53:46 PM
 :beer No beer but the coffee and the views are nice at Burns Beach :runyay
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: Brock on March 29, 2012, 06:59:18 PM
Mitch,
$64.00 is the damage.

Looks like we need to pick a mid point between Toodyay, Joondalup, Johno and Mitch

Of course, Burns Beach is good for me. :grin :grin :grin
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: Mitch on March 29, 2012, 07:16:26 PM
  Burns beach is fine fo me,  :eat
        1430 would suit me better.  8)
               :blk13
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: Brock on March 29, 2012, 07:18:29 PM
I can do that
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: JohnoJ on March 29, 2012, 09:19:04 PM
1430  I can do that. :thumbs
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: Mitch on March 31, 2012, 01:16:32 AM
 So is it agreed, Burns Beach coffee shop at 1430hrs. tomorrow. :grin   :think1
 I hope its easy to find, don't get NOR much.   :fp
                           :blk13
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: Brock on March 31, 2012, 08:33:13 AM
Easy to find, take freeway north, exit left at the end and keep going weston.... Ah whats that roads name????? let me look it up.... Burns beach rd, who woulda thought it..... :grin :grin :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: Mitch on March 31, 2012, 09:34:18 AM
  Thanks Brock see ya there.  :eat :grin
                 :blk13
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: rocketeer on April 02, 2012, 07:36:55 AM
Ah good, nothing more stressful than sending something across the country hoping it arrives in time!  Glad it got there in one piece.

Brad
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: Mitch on April 02, 2012, 09:55:25 AM
 Rocketeer
               Thanks for the prompt despatch of the oil.   :thumbsup
 Are you going to Blackheath?   :beer
               :blk13
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: rocketeer on April 02, 2012, 10:06:19 AM
No problem, I'm happy to get orders away asap.  In all honestly I doubt I would be there, I just have so much on at the moment though it would have been good to catch up with everyone. 
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: BigTed on August 17, 2012, 09:10:09 AM
Hi Gents - for those that have put the PM403 in their wheels, what's the verdict so far?
Title: Re: PM Lubricants- WA group buy
Post by: Brock on August 17, 2012, 10:12:15 AM
I have had no problems, it seems to be working quite well.