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Offline Gnomad42

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Changing from the ST1100 to the ST1300
« on: December 15, 2021, 11:12:32 AM »
Took the new 2004 ST1300 out for 3 hours yesterday, and they are such different bikes!
The motorised screen on the 13 is great for reducing noise on the helmet on open roads. You can really feel the extra 200 cc of power when you twist the wrist.
And most of all, riding in 30+ degree heat feels like I have the exhaust pipe pointed at my family jewels. I'm relatively sure I am now infertile. Never had that problem with the 1100.
My phone also switched off in an act of self-preservation, as the right pie warmer where I usually put the phone must have exceeded 50 degrees.

I've read the posts about the "hot rocks" issue, and while using heat insulation foil is on the cards, it seems the main problem is air flow being trapped up behind the engine where the tank & seat is.

Has anyone come up with any ducting solutions to move the hot air out from the fairings, rather than trying to force more cold air in?

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Re: Changing from the ST1100 to the ST1300
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2021, 12:16:58 PM »
I think having a lambs wool seat cover will help protect the family jewels a little as when I had one on my ST I didn't seem to suffer from roasted chestnuts... :grin

I don't ride in heavy stop start traffic much so don't suffer from "cooked" gonads too often but I'm still looking at doing an exhaust wrap in the not too distant future.
Besides keeping the family jewels a bit cooler I'm also hopeful this will also keep both pie warmers at a more "user friendly" temperature... :X


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Re: Changing from the ST1100 to the ST1300
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2021, 01:52:51 PM »
I totally agree that fitting a sheepskin seat cover will fix the issue.   It seals the gap between the tank and the seat, which stops hot air from under the fairings escaping through that gap.   In addition, I'd never put anything critical in the pie warmers as the heat in there can get extreme.   I made some measurements and found that on a 30 degree day, temps in the Pie Warmer reached 43 degrees while on the move, and 57 degrees soon after the bike stopped.  Who knows what temps would be reached on a hot day!  I used my pie warmers for tools, spare ear plugs, chamois etc, but NEVER for wallet, phone, camera etc.
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Re: Changing from the ST1100 to the ST1300
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2021, 10:55:35 PM »
I agree with Pete and Rusty wrt sheep skin covers and blocking the heat. My LHS pie warmer holds the bike cover, disk lock and metal plate attached to cord for the side stand foot. The RHS pie warmer holds trauma scissors, leatherman, sundry usb charging cords and micro fibre cloth for the helmet visor, helmet lock and mask. Nothing heat susceptible.
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Re: Changing from the ST1100 to the ST1300
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2021, 08:20:42 AM »
I keep a tyre pressure gauge wrapped up in a rag in the left pie warmer...In the right I have assorted bits & pieces such as a spare mask, a demist cloth and some OzStoc business cards.
So far the heat hasn't killed anything!  :thumbs
« Last Edit: December 16, 2021, 03:25:45 PM by ruSTynutz »


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Re: Changing from the ST1100 to the ST1300
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2021, 09:26:52 PM »
I keep my light weight gloves in the right one, and my STowners club hat in the left one, along with a bit of board to go under the side stand if I am parking somewhere on dodgy ground.
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Re: Changing from the ST1100 to the ST1300
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2021, 07:25:39 PM »
I do find the 1300 a warm bike because of the excellent weather protection. I have never experienced the 'uncomfortable' heat as described by many. I do however, have a custom fitted sheep skin seat cover. I often wonder whether after market fitments up front, e.g. spot lights, exacerbate the heat problem because of interrupting the airflow as designed by Mr Honda? I am a rare breed who has made zero modifications, read farkles, to the mighty 1300.  :whistle. Having said that, I store nothing in the locked left hand pie warmer and only keys in the right hand side when I'm out riding because of the excessive heat in these 2 storage compartments. I've owned mine for 14 years so one can assume it is a mighty fine bike although not perfect. My 2 bobs worth.
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