National OzSTOC Rally 2015 Toowoomba QLD 20th to 23rd of March

[harieg]

I think you really  should spell our 1 international attendee correctly ....

Yeah, I spotted that too: Rgardner for Rob Gardner (not Rgarnder) but I won't get precious about it if someone has a beer waiting. (Haven't had a XXXX since about 1998).

is there not TWO international delegates coming

[Pezzz]

Oops .... missed STefani ... looks like i will owe a beer as well ....

[Biggles]

I think you really  should spell our 1 international attendee correctly ....

Yeah, I spotted that too: Rgardner for Rob Gardner (not Rgarnder) but I won't get precious about it if someone has a beer waiting. (Haven't had a XXXX since about 1998).

is there not TWO international delegates coming

TWO would be plural, therefore "Are".
More beer...   

[Pezzz]

We really do need a $h*t stirring  emoticon.  Lol....

[Brock]

 

[spanner]

I note that my name and STeed are not on the list.

  ......have i registerd?


      yep


put me and my little Triple B on the list please.   

 

[RGardner]

www.Vesselfinder.com tells me that the container ship ‘Spirit of Auckland’ has cleared New Zealand and is pointed in the general direction of Botany Bay. Of course this boat's most valuable cargo is a certain NZ registered Honda ST1300.

So I’m claiming the lead in the competition for most km’s traveled towards Toowoomba to date. The distance:
Palmerston North to Auckland (all be it in a Mainfreight truck), 600 km.
Port of Auckland to somewhere off the west coast in the Tasman, 500 km.
(My rules are you don’t actually have to be riding the bike)

[Williamson]

..... Haven't had a XXXX since about 1998 ......

Some people aren't as lucky ...........

[Brian]

That's prity exciting stuff RGardner......like waiting for SanTa and his sleigh..

[RGardner]

By boat appears to have reached Botany Bay this morning. That means my ST has now traveled 1,100 road kilometres to Auckland and 2,350 sea kilometres (1,270 nautical miles) to Sydney. That’s a healthy 3,620 km towards the Rally already. (The fact that I wasn't on the bike for any of these miles still remains irrelevant).

[ST2UP]

Out of interest Rob, what's the costs to transport the ST across the ditch and back ??


Cheers

Chris

[Brock]

Hmmm,

We may have to have a convening of the OzSTOC Supreme Court, to closley look at the Rules.  I think the wording is "Has Ridden the furthest to an OzSTOC Rally".  Not forgetting the Gentleman Travelling from the US of course, as He would take out the (Furthest Travelled to Attend).


Of course, the presentation of supporting documents attached to the appropriate number of the form $100, may have a bearing on the decision reached.

[RGardner]

Well maybe I can get the prize for the first bike to start the journey?

[RGardner]

Out of interest Rob, what's the costs to transport the ST across the ditch and back ??

Cheers

Chris

Glad you asked. In NZD with Mainfreight it's:

NZ to Aust.   NZD Incl GST
Export docs.   $150
Ocean freight   $392
Au D/O   $66
Port charge   $140
Carnet clearance   $288
AQIS   $214
AQIS inspect (if required)   $295
Total    $1,544

Aust to NZ.  NZD Incl GST   
Export customs   $214
Export docs.   $140
Ocean freight   $460
NZ port charge   $109
Transition facility   $55
Carnet clearance   $150
NZ D/O   $52
Total  $1,180

[ST2UP]

Thanks mate great info 

[Sabie]

For the 2013 rally the award was given to the person who had ridden the furtherest but not necessarily the most direct route. I had ridden from Townsville to Middleton taking the most direct route however the winner had toured parts of WA on holiday which were added to the distance travelled And therefore making that the winner (if I'd known that id have done a few loops in NSW to add some milage)

So my point here is that it needs to be fair and awarded to the person who has travelled the furtherest direct distance to the rally while riding their bike and returning on their bike. Using the current method if you live in Brisbane and travel to the rally via Adelaide to Toowoomba then You win and that's not fair on the rider who actually had to ride the furtherest not the furtherest by choice.

To cater for our international members who have made an extraordinary effort to attend, then perhaps a separate recognition should be made.

Hmmm,

We may have to have a convening of the OzSTOC Supreme Court, to closley look at the Rules.  I think the wording is "Has Ridden the furthest to an OzSTOC Rally".  Not forgetting the Gentleman Travelling from the US of course, as He would take out the (Furthest Travelled to Attend).


Of course, the presentation of supporting documents attached to the appropriate number of the form $100, may have a bearing on the decision reached.

[West Aussie Glen]

For the 2013 rally the award was given to the person who had ridden the furtherest but not necessarily the most direct route. I had ridden from Townsville to Middleton taking the most direct route however the winner had toured parts of WA on holiday which were added to the distance travelled And therefore making that the winner (if I'd known that id have done a few loops in NSW to add some milage)

So my point here is that it needs to be fair and awarded to the person who has travelled the furtherest direct distance to the rally while riding their bike and returning on their bike. Using the current method if you live in Brisbane and travel to the rally via Adelaide to Toowoomba then You win and that's not fair on the rider who actually had to ride the furtherest not the furtherest by choice.

To cater for our international members who have made an extraordinary effort to attend, then perhaps a separate recognition should be made.

Sabie,
Assuming google does basically the shortest distance and not knowing exactly where in Townsville you where living at the time:-

From Google
Townsville to Middleton Caravan Park 2,706 kms
Somewhere close to Gavo's front door to Middleton Caravan Park 2,706 kms
My front door to Middleton Caravan Park 2,778 kms
From BigTed's front door to Midddleton Caravan Park 2,792 kms

So I guess Bigted should be putting nis hand up over both you and me.

Edit, left out 3 other WA members

From somewhere near Johnoj's front door to Middleton Caravan Park 2,773 kms
From somewhere nearSTRay's front door to Middleton Caravan Park 2,773 kms
From Turtle's front door to Middleton Caravan Park 2,774 kms

[Lionel]

Sabie,
You make a good point IMHO.
I'd like to undertake an IBA 100CC prior to the Toowoomba event.
I'd ride Canberra to my Sydney start point, to Fremantle then back to Sydney, and on to Toowoomba.
Though I would not expect nor accept an award for most kms ridden to the event.
A fairer rule would be to measure the distance from residence to the annual destination using Google maps, not motorcycle odometers.
 

[West Aussie Glen]

Sabie,
You make a good point IMHO.
I'd like to undertake an IBA 100CC prior to the Toowoomba event.
I'd ride Canberra to my Sydney start point, to Fremantle then back to Sydney, and on to Toowoomba.
Though I would not expect nor accept an award for most kms ridden to the event.
A fairer rule would be to measure the distance from residence to the annual destination using Google maps, not motorcycle odometers.

I would be more than happy with that and also if it was restricted to STs.In 2013 I simply submitted my kms, I did not make the rules or decide on the recipient and am happy to hand my 2013 award back. This year I won't even enter my kms as I will again be on a GL1500 and going via Sydney, then Tewantin and finally Brisbane Airport.

[Mitch]

 Hi Glen I will be riding from home directly to Toowoomba.  (4271 klm according to Google maps)
 I also will not enter as I will Riding my Yamaha ST1200,
 I received the award in 2012 at Blackheath which I don't intend to hand back.
 Also I agree with Sabie and Glen.
         

[Brock]

For my 2bob, it wouldnt mater what bike you ride, as its about the rider....

[Sabie]

First, I wasn't having a shot at anyone, only putting a case forward for a fairer system.

Secondly, let's be careful saying the shortest distance via Google as it will put you over dirt especially if your coming from North or Far North Qld (may be a glitch with Google- not sure) to Victorian and South Australian destinations as it takes you down through the centre. There's around 35k's of dirt from Torrents creek to Aramac. To avoid this dirt you have to either travel west to Hughenden, Winton and Longreach or East to Charters Towers, Belyando Crossing and Emerald.

So not just the most direct but the safest most direct route on sealed roads. So if you have a member who has travelled further to stay on the bitumen then they win as opposed to someone who didn't.

[saaz]

I think all of the points put have been fair comment, and something I had not really thought about.

 Originally the greatest distance was all about encouraging members from all over to attend, as at least the first meeting in Blackheath was a real trial run of interest in members attending, so it was a point of conversation to get people talking, as are most of the awards.  Now we have members from all over, some flying in and hiring bikes, some on the way to somewhere else, some from overseas and doing other things before and after etc etc.

 It's not really about the distance but the journey really, so I don't think we are about to get hung up with IBA style rules about what bike, how you got there etc etc.  There are a few other places you can go to do all those sort of rides and get accreditation, with very established rules.  I went to a recent Victorian RTE at Forest, but I was going to go to Colac anyway to visit Mum at some time, so I did both together.  Total ride distance was about 2000kms, but the RTE bit was really 170kms max from Colac, and that was going the long way back.  So it was the shortest RTE I have ever done.

The story of getting to Ozstoc is more about how you got there and why, which is  far more important than a competition to win something according to set rules.

[Sabie]

Saaz, you missed the mark so I give up...

[daveinbus]

it about the ride who ride the longest  or the shortests  so I think