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General Category => LONG DISTANCE RIDING, Proper preparation, Safety and Tips => Topic started by: Lionel on October 10, 2014, 08:47:21 PM
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I'm leaving Townsville very early in the morning (11 Oct) for Canberra. I hope Tackleberry will be able to sign the paperwork for me.
The route home has three legs. Leg 1: Townsville - Mt Isa - Tennant Creek - Alice Springs (overnight)
Leg 2: Alice Springs - Port Augusta - Broken Hill (overnight)
Leg 3 Broken Hill - Gilgandra - West Wyalong - Wagga - Canberra.
If everything goes to plan its an SS3000 miles I'm chasing. The allowed time is 72 hours.
Tackleberry has warned me about the animals - they are bad at the moment. I'll be taking it very slowly until Hughenden (daylight).
Fuel should not be a problem as I'll have 25 litres in the main tank and 13 litres in the auxiliary. Fuel won't be a problem because for the most part the plan has me travelling in the open speed section in the dark or near dark, and I have to slow down.
The link goes live just after midnight. https://spotwalla.com/tripViewer.php?id=b8a654376e2a85f0d
This ride is for Pat.
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:thumbsup Stay safe mate :-++
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Safe travels Lionel. :thumb
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Take it easy mate, great country in north Queensland, I spent a few years on the Railway track up that way many years ago
Looking forward to following your progress :thumb
:beer
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Good luck mate and have fun :runyay
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A worthy outing for an ST. Will be following with interest. :thumbsup
Only 25 litres? Fill her up, man. She wants 29 litres! More use in your tank than back at the servo.
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Sorry guys the trip is postponed and may be cancelled. I'm as sick as a dog.
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Bit of a bugger there Lionel. Rest up and take it easy and we will see you at Coffs next Friday, get well soon!!
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Get well Lionel and see you Friday
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Lionel is on the FJR these days Biggles.
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I hope you feel better soon mate
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The trip may be delayed by only a day :runyay so don't give up looking just yet :thumb
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I'm trying for a start at 0:30 hrs tomorrow, Sunday, EST.
Tackleberry will sign me out of Townsville.
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He is on the road.....travel safe mate :like
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CYA Tuesday night for the sign in :beer I suppose you will want to leave for Coffs on Thursday :crackup
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Alice Springs is the aim for tonight.
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Without giving too much away, look for Barkly-Tennant Creek- Ti Tree then the Alice for the night. Just a normal little day ride! While I like looking, I would prefer to be out there doing it instead..
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Great effort there Lionel :thumb
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Awesome work Lionel :clap :clap :clap
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Nice one Lionel :thumbs
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I think he's feeling his age. Looks like he slept in. :grin
Pretty gruelling riding central Oz at this time of the year. I'd reckon he'd be putting a lot of fluids through.
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So next refuel should be Coober Pedy....... :think1 about ETA Peterborough if he going via Silver City (Broken Hill)
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Around 8 hours to Port Augusta, Alan
Google maps estimates 9.5 hours for the 902kms from Marla to Peterborough.......No Fuel at Broken Hill after 10 or 11 pm but 24 hour card fuel at SA/NSW Border
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If he's overnighting Broken Hill, of course fuel there won't be an issue.
And he won't be refuelling at Wilcannia (or any but the BP yard) after Wombattle's experience there.
Even a Feejer will make it to Emmdale. :p
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Even a Feejer will make it to Emmdale. :p
It's been nearly 40 years since I've done that road so I didn't know about that roadhouse. Handy to know......Thanks Biggles
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he has dialed an extra 17 cents since last post, is making good time, now 60 Km south of Marla
You've become quite a fan of living the ride by proxy and arithmetic. ;-*
Usually you have to do some long calcs to get the kph, but he has taken the rare option of allowing it to be posted.
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So that leaves, Cadney Park, Coober Pedy, Glendambo and Pimba as the only slow points until Port Augusta
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So that leaves, Cadney Park, Coober Pedy, Glendambo and Pimba as the only slow points until Port Augusta
The Feejer will be glad of the reprieve after the heat, and some boisterous sectors yesterday.
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Even a Feejer will make it to Emmdale. :p
It's been nearly 40 years since I've done that road so I didn't know about that roadhouse. Handy to know......Thanks Biggles
Good tucker too, apparently. Been discussed on FarRiders recently.
Sadly, in that harsh country, some of these operations don't last as long as the bigger town set-ups.
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Good tucker too, apparently. Been discussed on FarRiders recently.
Sadly, in that harsh country, some of these operations don't last as long as the bigger town set-ups.
Emmdale if it's 24hour is more likely a truck stop as it's on the most direct Sydney - Perth route
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We must get up to Marla one weekend and meet the sis in law there. I doubt if the ST would make it the 40kms down the Oodnadatta track to her place.
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I t was actually Lionel who had the bad fuel experience at Wilcannia
If he's overnighting Broken Hill, of course fuel there won't be an issue.
And he won't be refuelling at Wilcannia (or any but the BP yard) after Wombattle's experience there.
Even a Feejer will make it to Emmdale. :p
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Quite a bit behind the original schedule, but Lionel will be adjusting it to the conditions and how he feels on the fly. I will try and contact him tonight about final plan, when into Canberra, are tyres etc needed before the Ozstoc 1600. Great plans are flexible!
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Gandambo, one of the few places we've stayed in a motel. Flag in it was back then. On our way back from Erldunda which we used as a base for The Alice and Ayers Rock.
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Looking at weather he'd be having a cold head wind of about 35k/h at Woomera and about 25 k/h at home
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About another hour here then. Plenty of wild life between here and Broken Hill, especially after Yunta
To cold to go own the main street....lol
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About another hour here then. Plenty of wild life between here and Broken Hill, especially after Yunta
To cold to go own the main street....lol
Aw go on. Thrown on a woolly jumper and give him a cheer. I'll mean a lot to the old feller. :thumbs
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I'm glad about that, the short cut accross the mud must have been fun.... I always prefered to stay on the causeway myself.
o:) o:) o:)
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He's just went down the main street of Peterborough at 10:40pm SA time.
He probably wondered who the two idiots that were standing by a car in the cold waving at him as he rode past.
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He's just went down the main street of Peterborough at 10:40pm SA time.
He probably wondered who the two idiots that were standing by a car in the waving at him as he rode past.
That's why you needed to be on the bike! :grin
Goodonya for going out and cheering him on this time of the night! He'll thank you when he reads this. Plenty of time to think about things and savour that wave between now and bed time! :eek
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Heather asked whether I'd do something like this.
I had to remind her of my first Xmas trip back home of 4000km from Port Hedland to Adelaide in 3 and a half days.
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At 1040pm SA summer time he went passed us so for the day he'd done 1356 kms (from google maps) from about 7:45 am this morning at an average speed of about 90 k/h (rounded up to 15 hours as it was only 5 mins).
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I need a coffee... bet Lionel would appreciate one about now as well.
Yunta would have been the time to have one........24 hour truck stop....
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Ah!... must have heard me.. he is stationary in Yunta
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Streetview actually managed to sit him right at the bowser!
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They also have accommodation there as well......4 or 5 units
Current temp for Yunta is 8.8 but feels like 5.5 (wind chill factor I guess) with 5 forecast overnight
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Both Mannahill and Olary hotels have accommodation with Olary having a nice large Ulysses sign out front
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Speaking of cold, I was about 8 years old when I had to change trains at Peterborough late at night, on the way from Adelaide to the Hill, way back when they had different gauge railways... and it was SNOWING in Peterborough.. first time I had ever seen snow, and COLD!.... I suffered chill withdrawals so bad, I had 4 tonsils!
I remember doing changing trains when I was about 6, more like Terrowie from what dad tells me. Checkout our Silverton weekend....shows my first school. I think we moved from Wallaroo to Cockburn
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He has crossed the border at 2.00 am
All these time changes with some states on summer time and some not must get confusing times and The Hill on SA time as well.
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I have a sister who lives in the Hill, Eyre st, right opposite the old South Mine entrance.
My bro used to live in west BH, he is a Master Craftsman of the printing industry, worked for the Barrier Miner newspaper years ago, but moved to Tanunda in the Barossa around 197...4?
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At 1040pm SA summer time he went passed us so for the day he'd done 1356 kms (from google maps) from about 7:45 am this morning at an average speed of about 90 k/h (rounded up to 15 hours as it was only 5 mins).
I think I need a new brain........lol He would have lost an hour due to our summer time difference when crossing into SA so 14 hours to Peterborough and just under 97 k/h average
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Not far to go. Must have had to slow down or have a stop as it is taking awhile. Lots of goats and other animals along that section, and that was doing it coming on nightfall. Around 4 hours behind schedule. I would not expect an early start tomorrow.
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Lionel had already arrived and gone to bed in Broken Hill, so don't worry about where the spot is (it may update later, but will when he gets going again). Ready for another big day tomorrow!
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He's just went down the main street of Peterborough at 10:40pm SA time.
He probably wondered who the two idiots that were standing by a car in the cold waving at him as he rode past.
Good on you both Allan :-++ :-++ shame you didn't have the OzSTOC SA flag a flappin in the breeze :like
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8.51 and Lionel is already 85 kms on the road. An hour behind the plan, but yesterday was a long day. Depends on how late I have to stay up to sign him off.
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oops!... passed through Wilcannia 5 minutes ago.
The SPOT updates are very frustrating. Apparently it's due to the huge number of people who use it around the world. The FindMeSpot polling system that Spotwalla draws upon just can't keep up with the traffic. It is worse at night in Oz, because that's when the Americans and Europeans are all out on the road. Relief in sight as the northern winter sees them all put their bikes away until April.
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At least the Poms only post short rides, Biggles... to them, a 50 mile trip is an epic adventure :crackup
but they probably still run a SPOT so they can show off their amazing feat to their friends.
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By the look of the weather radar in Canberra he might start praying for an improvement for this evening.
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Lionel might be lucky as his arrival time through West Wylong-Wagga-Canberra coincides with forecasts of intermittent to no rain. Great planning!
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Allowing for an hour late, at best 9.15 tonight, but based on the last few days it might slip. Depends a bit on whether the cooler weather is offset but some wind. Lionel has travel all the roads from here on many times so it is like riding around home.
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At least the Poms only post short rides, Biggles... to them, a 50 mile trip is an epic adventure :crackup
I put yesterdays leg total kms and average speed on the my mc phoenix sire before I went to bed this morning (2am) and so far no response........
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Going well Lionel, looking good.
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Alan, just a query? How does your speedo stack up against the GPS?
My speedo reads 10 Km fast, showing 120 when my GPS indicates 110
Your difference would be within the ADR specified error range. ADR requirement is to have your indicated speed to show less than or no more than equal to the speed limit posted. Meaning if the speed indicated is 100 then your actual travelling speed must be 100 or less but within the 10% plus 4 k/h error range (the error is from memory but it won't be any more than that).
I have two car based GPSs and a Samsung tab and all three show different relative speeds compared to my bike speedo but the odometer is within 1 or 2% accurate. Also since going to GT spec tyres the error seems less and using the tab is about 6 k/h difference. The tab uses both US and Russian satellites so I would think more accurate
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Why did Lionel turn left at Nevertire?
The direct route to Canberra is down through Narromine.
Maybe he needs a get a corner docket somewhere to top up the distance.
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The route is as planned for the distance need to achieve things by the end.
The SPOT speeds should be taken with a grain of salt, as when we were going to the NT RTE is was well under reporting what speeds we were actually doing on an average and actual basis. SPOT seems to be less reliable about these things now.
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Lionel is travelling at a steady dollar ten, making good legal time
Just remember that this SPOT link is via Spotwalla and therefore you cannot estimate speed at all due to all sorts of differences that have been well discussed across the LD community and are openly stated by Jason Jonas whom set up the Spotwalla site. Times can also be very way off.
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Yep, have to wait for the confirmed end of trip time, hours travelled, and distances covered to get true details.
I know you need to have all the signed dockets etc for a ride like this but wouldn't the trip record from something like Spotwalla also show the start/end times and distance ridden etc as well.?
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It can be part of the submitted evidence, but safer to have some backup information as well.
Yep, have to wait for the confirmed end of trip time, hours travelled, and distances covered to get true details.
I know you need to have all the signed dockets etc for a ride like this but wouldn't the trip record from something like Spotwalla also show the start/end times and distance ridden etc as well.?
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The IBA will accept a SPOT map as substantiating evidence, but dockets and witnesses are the primary documents they seek, along with lines on hard copy maps.
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1473kms is the total aim for today. It is windy and cold here, estimated 8c or less, so not the best way to do the last 400kms or so.
Hey John... Lionel has just passed the 1000 Km milepost for today ++
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I was at Dubbo only the other day. It seems like a short run home relatively to the previous 6000kms or so!
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I know you need to have all the signed dockets etc for a ride like this but wouldn't the trip record from something like Spotwalla also show the start/end times and distance ridden etc as well.?
Short answer NO. It will only as saaz stated, form part of the documentation and considerations of the verification teams. Spotwalla is predominantly only utilised as one method of verifying the route you have stated as having taken.
And not to detract from the fact that Lionel is doing an absolute brilliant ride...... ++
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Lionel is at the cross point of deciding to do the original ride or the shortest way back. Either way will end what has been an epic ride ++
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That is a good sign that he is feeling ok ++
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Short answer NO. It will only as saaz stated, form part of the documentation and considerations of the verification teams. Spotwalla is predominantly only utilised as one method of verifying the route you have stated as having taken.
And not to detract from the fact that Lionel is doing an absolute brilliant ride...... ++
It can be part of the submitted evidence, but safer to have some backup information as well.
The IBA will accept a SPOT map as substantiating evidence, but dockets and witnesses are the primary documents they seek, along with lines on hard copy maps.
Just curious.
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You can probably think of it in terms of primary and secondary evidence. Dockets etc give time, fuel, amounts etc that can tally up to looking ok. A spot could be put on a road train while the rider had a sleep and got it back later. various combinations of evidence may be enough, but none in isolation.
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There is a Maccas on the way through so it may be food and drink break
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It is very windy and down to 6 degrees, so not the best conditions for making it home.
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Short way home then, which in this weather I can understand. Less than 3 hours away.
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Cowra-Canberra is a relative doddle, but the weather is not very friendly. It was nice and sunny, with a great hamburger at the Rose garden Cafe when I came through last weekend.
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This would feel like the longest part any ride......
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In this weather, definitely, on a nice day you even are itching to get home.
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I hate being at home watching rather than doing :think1 Reminds me of crewing for a mate doing rallies. Sitting in the dark for hours, something happens, then sit around not knowing what is going on until the end.
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Around there is usually not too bad (so I hear, 120 plus is quite safe at night if you are keen to make time...) but the road will be wet, reflections and the animals may be out. Tiredness also.
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I will see if Lionel wants to leave tomorrow to go to Coffs for the Ozstoc 1600 :rofl otherwise we might leave it until Thursday, but it is a nearly 800km ride to Coffs. A rest day when we get there though..
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Pretty safe to say that after the last 3 days, he won't be out of bed at 7 am in the morning?
After my first trip back form Port Hedland I never even got back on the bike for a week and that was only to refuel her for the return trip the next day. But I actually miss those trips I made every 6 months or so.
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Nearly at Yass and home sailing! That bit of the Boorowa road is ok usually but at night, wet and tired needs some care. An hour away normally but if a stop is needed it should be taken. I will just play loud music or put on a music video o:)
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60 to Lionel's place, 40 to mine. He should be halfway here based on that spot time.
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off for extra distance the safe way, towards Goulburn then back from there. Adds about 160kms. He may even go further up the highway to get a turn docket.
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May be he is having trouble hanging on with all that down hill running, Lionell can have a rest and put some wear on the left side of the tyres..
o:) o:)
( Helmet , bike sneak away while no-one is looking)
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21:51
Must be trying for 1600k for the day?
or so tired he's missed another turn like up at Nevertire. :grin
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21:51
Must be trying for 1600k for the day?
or so tired he's missed another turn like up at Nevertire. :grin
Or he's making dam sure of getting the 4800 km minimum (3000 miles) by going a little further or 1600 a day
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Next stop, the Big Merino for a corner docket, then home to bed??
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That was not even the original aim, but must be some other target to hit in some time period, not just 24 hours. Corner dockets could be at Goulburn, Marulan, Sutton Forrest - just depends on how far.
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Goulburn turn docket then home for the finish. So another 45 minutes or so if you want to see the end. I am not doing final witnessing so am off to bed to practice getting up before 2am.
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What'll you do when Lionel finishes Kev.....you've been on here for most of the last three days.....
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Years of afternoon shift for me meant 2am (2:30 for you) for going to bed and it still is that time for me. Once Heather goes to bed, the head phones go on and the music goes on or I watch a DVD.
Heather says Hi as well.....a little chilly waiting for him last night but happy that she can brag about seeing her first IBA rider on the move
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He's just past the Manuka Oval.
That would be pretty special- riding through the heart of Canberra after days through the heart of Oz!
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Yep, its official, he finished at 23:40
Well done, Lionel!
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I'll just repeat what Kev said........
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Plenty of laurels to rest on there!
Congratulations on achieving your aim, Lionel.
We'll hear from you on Wednesday, much later, no doubt.
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Guess I better mosey outside and put the rubbish bins out... garbo will be here in less than 5 hours.
I'll just go have a shower, come back, turn the headphones up and play a game or two for the next couple hours,
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Amazing run, congratulations Lionel :hatwave :runyay
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Amazing run, congratulations Lionel :hatwave :runyay
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well done, good to see you back safe n sound :thumb
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Good to see you and the Feejar home safe mate......see you both in a few days ;-*
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He will need a couple of beers to dampen out the sensation of movement.
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Well done Lionel. Good riding.
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Lionel did appreciate the Peterborough Cheer Squad. Here's his comment on FarRiders:
"Thanks for the great support guys.
I even had a couple of well wishes from the OzSTOC forum waiting in the cold 8 degrees at night in Peterborough cheering me on; although I didn't know who they were at the time or I would have stopped.
I was after a SS5000K in under 72 hours."
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Lionel did appreciate the Peterborough Cheer Squad. Here's his comment on FarRiders:
"Thanks for the great support guys.
I even had a couple of well wishes from the OzSTOC forum waiting in the cold 8 degrees at night in Peterborough cheering me on; although I didn't know who they were at the time or I would have stopped.
I was after a SS5000K in under 72 hours."
Thanks Biggles,
Heather will be pleased.......We didn't expect him to stop though we did see his brake lights come on a couple times as he went down the main street.
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Nice one Alan and Heather :clap
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Nice one Alan and Heather :clap
Thanks TJ
And with sunny days since then, that 8C temp we had the other night doesn't seem to have got any higher either.
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Kev Murphy.........hereby dubbed Spotter
Mate you did a terrific job in keeping us updated with Lionel's journey. I hope we can enlist you further to do the same for other riders sharing their spot track......well done :clap :rockon
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There might be a few in convoy this weekend.
This one for starters:
https://spotwalla.com/tripViewer.php?id=b976543ef8424aafc (https://spotwalla.com/tripViewer.php?id=b976543ef8424aafc)
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Will keep a watch for it , but Monday is out, as I am replacing the timing belt on the 1100
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Will keep a watch for it , but Monday is out, as I am replacing the timing belt on the 1100
If we're not home before Monday there's something dodgy about TJ's gpx file!
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Will keep a watch for it , but Monday is out, as I am replacing the timing belt on the 1100
If we're not home before Monday there's something dodgy about TJ's gpx file!
:rofl :rofl
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We could always stay at my place and get back Monday 😛
I am just practicing at this retirement thing until I get serious
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Absolutely incredible run, Lionel.
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Congratulations and well done!!!
(and thanks for the commentary, Kev)