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Flouro Vests to become compulsory???
« on: August 17, 2012, 10:01:56 PM »
Got this off the FarRiders Website....

Another contentious issue and another bureaucratic bum seemingly needs a good smacking!....        :spank

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Re: Flouro Vests to become compulsory???
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2012, 10:07:44 PM »
If I'm looking closely enough, Senior Sergeant Bill Gore has his hand on it! 

It's simple, tell motorists to LOOK before merging/crossing/overtaking/changing lanes/etc.....!
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Re: Flouro Vests to become compulsory???
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2012, 10:17:54 PM »
While I wear a fluro vest, I think it should be a personal choice, as it the level of safety gear each of us wears. As for compulsory leathers???? They arent suitable really for the Oz climate.

Those Zoomy kids on the $1500 scooters would look cool in $4000 worth of leather..
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Re: Flouro Vests to become compulsory???
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2012, 10:24:53 PM »
Hopefully this idiocy will only apply in Victoria, and they will leave the rest of us alone without Big Brother trying so desperately to live our lives for us.

Obviously no-one told these clowns that the ideal government tries to legislate a little as possible, not as much as possible
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Re: Flouro Vests to become compulsory???
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2012, 10:25:26 PM »
I'm sure the uninformed Gummint irriots think leather is the only safety clothing available.

As for Sen Sgt Gore, by implication, if you wear a fluoro vest, you won't fall off and hurt yourself.

Hopefully only youse Mexicans will get stuck with this BS.

Next thing they'll want the bikes painted in fluorescent paint.

Yes, we are over-represented in the statistics, and we know it's because we are not protected by a tin can when collisions happen.
Fluoro gear might help a little bit, but I think it's a bit like the lady says- every courier, lollipop lady and ditch digger wears fluoro and people will simply stop reacting to it, the way they can't see any m/c that's not white!
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Re: Flouro Vests to become compulsory???
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2012, 10:36:48 PM »
Already law in France and soon you will need to carry your own breathalyser kit?  :(
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Re: Flouro Vests to become compulsory???
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2012, 07:44:39 AM »
they cannot see brightly coloured cars or trucks so how do we expect them to see duel lights.

when i started rideing in the 1970`s a similar issue was turn your lights on full time " i even used a yellow reflective cover for my 250s headlight " but was still run of the road as the "i didnt see you syndrome". anyway the lights stayed on and now we are at the same crossroads

so brock and others who use those types of jackets! how often do they move over on you, cut you of at roundabouts and generally SORRY MATE I DIDNT SEE YOU

im not for it as compolsary as i want it to be my choice. most jackets now have refective piping or and panels and still the same issues.

the thing is EDUCATION of drivers and riders . why riders you say? well you ultimatly you are responsable for YOURE LIFE and should share the resonsability as i drive a bike and car and others drive a hole range of vehicals.

ongoing training is a great help and would benifit a large range of drivers, riders and pedestrians (as they are also affected will be the next to be  govend by over elumination)
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Re: Flouro Vests to become compulsory???
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2012, 08:06:35 AM »
I know that we are over represented in the statistics but I've also read that the stats involving motorcycle related injury and fatal collisions include unregistered and unisured bikes and unlicenced riders and those that don't wear safety gear (helmets etc) and also collisions on private property.

It'd be a good and a fair comparison to see the stats that only involve registered bikes and licenced riders properly protected.

I'm an advocate of road safety, don't disagree with speed cameras but do think the tolerance should be reasonable.
For myself and any pillion ATGATT applies for every ride but I do have a proposal for those that object to wearing a helmet.

I don't think it should be compulsory to wear a legal helmet but if you're not and are injured or your helmet doesn't comply with current legislation then you should have to pay any hospital/medical costs yourself.  About now is when those that object to wearing helmets go a bit quiet.

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Re: Flouro Vests to become compulsory???
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2012, 08:57:49 AM »
Don't get excited???
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Yeah and cars could be banned??? Virginity could be made compulsary??????? and Motorcytcle Licenses must be shown before you buy a Latte????
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Re: Flouro Vests to become compulsory???
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2012, 10:37:58 AM »
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so brock and others who use those types of jackets! how often do they move over on you, cut you of at roundabouts and generally SORRY MATE I DIDNT SEE YOU

That still happens, but I am always watching out for it  ( just cos I'm paranoid doesn't mean the Bastards aren't out to get you) but I am seen much more these days. The Pearl helmet and the White ST1100 sure help there.. :grin :grin :grin

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Re: Flouro Vests to become compulsory???
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2012, 10:44:16 AM »

Maybe all bike riders should ride excop bikes   :wht11

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Re: Flouro Vests to become compulsory???
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2012, 03:43:56 PM »
Already law in France and soon you will need to carry your own breathalyser kit?  :(

But that also applies to car drivers and they must wear it if they get out of their car while on the side of the road.

Also no need to wear a hi viz vest as such but arm bands etc are ok providing they meet the minimum requirement.
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Re: Flouro Vests to become compulsory???
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2012, 05:05:30 PM »
...and anyway, they are Frogs!

Know the only thing wrong with France?? It's full of Frenchmen!
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Re: Flouro Vests to become compulsory???
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2012, 05:45:44 PM »
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Re: Flouro Vests to become compulsory???
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2012, 06:22:14 PM »
Roughly translated as "Can you see me NOW?"
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Re: Flouro Vests to become compulsory???
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2012, 06:31:32 PM »
As for compulsory leathers???? They arent suitable really for the Oz climate.

As Brock said leathers aren’t suitable for everyday use in Australia :well
I think compulsory fluoro vests aren’t a good idea, there are so many people wearing them now that they are starting to just become overlooked as part of the normal landscape and just won’t add that much of an advantage.

What I would prefer them to implement is an Australian Standard for all MC gear (like they do with helmets) then if you choose to wear gear you know it will do the job it’s meant too :thumb

If they did this then I think they could make it compulsory to wear a minimum of an approved helmet and jacket or vest with at least jeans and fully enclosed footwear without people having an issue with the legislation.

But as it stands… I think Brock needs to give them a :spank :spank :spank :well :spank :spank

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Re: Flouro Vests to become compulsory???
« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2012, 10:37:24 AM »
+1 with Brock on this... I don't agree with legislating for it, but I wear one nonetheless. One time my 14yo daughter was on the pillion and objected to be wearing it - 'cos it was too "embarrassing" (?). I relented and took it off. Man - did I feel vulnerable. As an experiment, I rode with it on and off over the next few days. Although very subjective, I can say that there is a definite difference. From then on, if she needs a ride, she gets embarrassed - it's impossible to get her to wear one though!

What I'd like them to legislate for, however, is for car drivers to use their neck, turn their head, and have a good look. The vest helps self preservation (but not a guarantee) against those that only use their mirrors. What I also find alarming is the appearance of "lane changing collision avoidance" devices built into the mirrors of new cars. IMHO, this will only result in drivers actually "looking" less.

As far as leathers go, one would hope they're targeting protective standards, not cow-hide.... too hot for me, and not as comfortable in the seat (me thinks, never tried).

In the end, this is a scary place for legislators to be heading... what's next: gloves, boots, eye-wear, ABS, power/speed limitation,...
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Re: Flouro Vests to become compulsory???
« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2012, 10:46:46 AM »
There is too much regulation happening, but you cant regulate idiots,or legislate for them
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Re: Flouro Vests to become compulsory???
« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2012, 01:31:06 PM »
There is too much regulation happening, but you cant regulate idiots,or legislate for them

Totally agree I nearly got cleaned up in the Hidden Valley Drags carpark last night lights on, fully lit carpark at least the guy gave me a wave of recognition with a Bundy in his hand go figure.
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« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2012, 05:58:40 PM »
The day I have to wear a flouro vest I'll sell the bike & hand in my bike license & I think thats what they are hoping for with this legislation
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« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2012, 12:06:00 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2012, 12:57:16 PM »
Next they will want us to put the Postie flags on our bike  :well :well :|||| :blk13
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Re: Flouro Vests to become compulsory???
« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2012, 06:43:00 PM »
I tried out wearing a flouro vest over my dri-rider the other day and there was so much reflection from the flouro in the GPS that I couldn't read it, all I could see was flouro yellow. What a bloody disaster, we are in danger of being legislated out of existence by know-nothing politicians :well :well :cuss :cuss
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« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2012, 09:38:15 PM »
This is an interesting take on the issue I saw a while ago. Bear in mind that we 'see' bikes because we're tuned to spot them.

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« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2012, 10:10:32 PM »
This is an interesting take on the issue I saw a while ago. Bear in mind that we 'see' bikes because we're tuned to spot them.

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