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Re: Any Thoughts on the "Good Oil"
« Reply #50 on: January 18, 2024, 04:00:17 PM »
i thought that you were the resident expert on diesel?? :rofl

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Re: Any Thoughts on the "Good Oil"
« Reply #51 on: January 18, 2024, 06:03:42 PM »
Hahaha! Once upon a time. I pioneered the use of diesel oils in ST1300s (to my knowledge) after discovering they have a very good 'crush' rating (which means what sort of diminishing Wyalong they suffer after being squashed between cogs, sprockets and high pressures). It also has to not have and friction modified in it to help out wet clutches not slip, and best of all... it used to be 1/3 the price of regular 4 strike motorcycle oils.    :thumb
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Re: Any Thoughts on the "Good Oil"
« Reply #52 on: January 18, 2024, 06:26:19 PM »
I went to buy the Shell Helix HX5 diesel oil (yellow container) and was told that it now contained friction modifiers - which are no good for our wet clutch set up. Can anyone verify this or did they just get $75 out of me for Penrite through good salesperson BS?
(HX5 was $52 for 5L now btw)


I did a search online and was unable to confirm whether HX5 oil contained friction modifiers.
But, from my limited understanding of oils, I think you need oils that meet the JASO MA or JASO MA2 standards which, I believe Shell's HX5 oil doesn't meet.

Re being charged $75, I'm assuming you ended up with Penrite's MC-4ST Semi Synthetic Motorcycle Oil from Supercheap???
If that's the case you got stooged as you can buy that very same oil for $64.99 from Autobarn: http://tinyurl.com/45dkj2ys

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Re: Any Thoughts on the "Good Oil"
« Reply #53 on: January 18, 2024, 06:32:57 PM »
The Penrite oil ( for diesel engines) that I mentioned earlier meets or exceeds the standards Rusty posted . My 1100 has been running on ti since I bought it with 35K on the clock, and still runs well today.. (well not today exactly, as i am in Thailand)
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Re: Any Thoughts on the "Good Oil"
« Reply #54 on: January 18, 2024, 06:53:56 PM »
Hi Brock, unless I'm looking at the wrong oil, I'm not sure if it does meet those standards...  :think1

https://penriteoil.com.au/assets/pis_pdfs/HPR%20DIESEL%2020W-60%20(Mineral).pdf

This one says it meets the Jaso CD-Plus standard, no mention of meeting Jaso MA or MA2...

But, at the end of the day if you've been using this oil for years, it can't be too bad!  :thumbsup


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Re: Any Thoughts on the "Good Oil"
« Reply #55 on: January 18, 2024, 07:00:29 PM »
You can search the oil company's lube desk by opening Google and searching for:
"oil Company Name" lube desk

Here are some examples:

   https://www.datateck.com.au/Lube/ShellAU/?if=1

   https://www.datateck.com.au/lube/GulfWesternAus/

   https://www.datateck.com.au/lube/castr_au/

   https://www.datateck.com.au/Lube/PenriteAus/


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Re: Any Thoughts on the "Good Oil"
« Reply #56 on: January 18, 2024, 07:20:37 PM »
Only issue with that is they are only going to show the recommended oil for whatever vehicle you enter in...so no chance of them recommending diesel oils for a motorcycle...


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