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Honda ST1300 Section => Tyres...to suit your ST1300 => Topic started by: Biggles on February 02, 2022, 11:36:49 AM
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Fans of the Michelin Pilot Roads will be intertested to hear they've reached their 6th iteration. I ordered tyres on Monday and my guy says they were due for release yesterday. He's waiting for his shipment.
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Cool
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(https://i.ibb.co/dgLGLDM/PR6.png)
https://www.michelin.com.au/motorbike/tyres/michelin-road-6?tyreSize=18 (https://www.michelin.com.au/motorbike/tyres/michelin-road-6?tyreSize=18)
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Looks like they have gone back to the earlier PR4. Certainly see the DNA in them>
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The Beemer is due for a new set of tyres, and I may consider these. Some users have reported low mileage from the "Road 5's", and the dealer that I spoke to advised that the "Road 6" claims better wet handling, more grip, and longer life. I reckon every tyre manuacturer says that about every new tyre that they bring out.
Any experience out there on the life of the Road 5's compared to the Road 4's??
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Fans of the Michelin Pilot Roads will be intertested to hear they've reached their 6th iteration. I ordered tyres on Monday and my guy says they were due for release yesterday. He's waiting for his shipment.
I’m a fan, though I’m not due for a new set yet. The 5’s have been terrific in cornering but noisier than the 4’s. I’ll be interested in your views once you give the 6’s a run.
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Got them today. There's a name change- now just Michelin Road 6 CT+ $555 fitted by da Man.
I'll also be interested to see if they're quieter.
https://nsmctyres.com/michelin-road-6-road-6-gt-sport-touring-tyre-range/ (https://nsmctyres.com/michelin-road-6-road-6-gt-sport-touring-tyre-range/)
I'm not sure about the "GT" designation in his link, because it isn't found on the tyre or in the road test:
https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/Michelin-Road-6---Launched.htm (https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/Michelin-Road-6---Launched.htm)
Here's the history (and I've had all of them):
- 2002 MICHELIN Pilot Road – the first Road tire range
- 2007 MICHELIN Pilot Road 2 – the first Road tire range featuring sipes
- 2014 MICHELIN Pilot Road 4 – the first Road tire range with a dedicated GT version
- 2018 MICHELIN Road 5 – the first Road tire range using 3D sipe technology
It looks like they dropped the "Pilot" on the 5s and I didn't notice.
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Any experience out there on the life of the Road 5's compared to the Road 4's??
My current ST13 came with new Pirelli Angel GTs and gave me 17,600 km.
The PR5s I put on gave me 17011 km.
I used to always get 23,000 km and I was blaming the Pirellis, but this is looking like the new norm. I suspect it's because my riding has had a much higher percentage of pillion kms than previous tyres that had more FarRiding solo kays.
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The Beemer is due for a new set of tyres, and I may consider these.
If I still have the K1600GT, I think I’ll give these a go next change!
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As I'm no lightweight and with Sue being no skinny mini I figure a "GT" may be better suited on the rear of my ST.
Unfortunately the GT's don't come in a 170/60R17... :||||
They do do a 180/55R17 though which, assuming there's enough clearance width wise, would probably be okay.
The lower profile means the 180/55R17 is actually slightly smaller (diameter wise) than the 170/60R17 but the difference is minimal...see below:
(https://i.ibb.co/rsBSP61/Tyre-Size-Comparison1.jpg) (https://i.ibb.co/5Ls4W7W/Tyre-Size-Comparison2.jpg)
Has anyone fitted a 180/55R17 tyre to their ST??? :popcorn
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.... Sue being no skinny mini I figure ....
And I figure that Sue does not read your posts very often.
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You figure right, Michael! :grin
And even if she did she'd expect no less a comment from me... :rofl
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I have a 180/55 pirelli on my st at the moment and there is plenty of clearance. Left getting tyres to late and that is all that was avail. Haven't noticed any diff in handling, but there are a few more mm on the side of the tread that I am not using now. Pref the pr4gt that i was running, but i pref the pr4s over the angels anyhow. (Seem to wear more evenly). Will be interestng to see what the pr6 are like :-)
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Thanks for that, David! :thumbs
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I gave the Road 6s a good run on Saturday and am delighted to report that they are much quieter riding upright and don't make that loud hum when cornering that the Road 5s did. So now to see if I can get more than 20 thou out of them.
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I gave the Road 6s a good run on Saturday and am delighted to report that they are much quieter riding upright and don't make that loud hum when cornering that the Road 5s did. So now to see if I can get more than 20 thou out of them.
I look forward to hearing your report on them mate :popcorn
Should only take a month or so for you to hit the 20k ;-*
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I look forward to hearing your report on them mate :popcorn
Should only take a month or so for you to hit the 20k ;-*
I'm sure I've told you a million times not to exaggerate. However I do have a couple of longish rides in the near future now our warders have opened the gates (at least, on the East).
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The weekend before last I did a FarRide to Bathurst to nab the FarTreasure. The round trip over two days was over 2000 kays and the tyres were fine. They are definitely quieter than the PR5s. They still "sing" when leaned over, but not as loudly. I did 400 last weekend and am off to Canberra for the weekend, so will start to get an idea about their wear. Regarding grip, I haven't tried them in rain, but they hold on well on wet tar. I had a lovely time on the New England Highway north of Tamworth swinging through the 85kph corners at 100 with Rubina purring her heart out tracking a mobile radar van who was doing the GPS 100. :cop
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OK- had plenty of opportunity to try them in the rain on the way here yesterday. It was hissing done between Coffs Harbour and Nabiac- two big storms with scary thunder. No one was driving above 40kph in the worst of it, so aquaplaning was on the cards. They held on well. Once it settled into steady rain I noticed they were a bit noisier, presumably because the sipes were working hard pumping water. No dramas in the bends on very wet concrete, which is a real test- not much friction available there.
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Thanks Biggles, it sounds like they perform well :runyay
Now the only test left is how long they last :popcorn
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With the amount of ridding Biggles does we should have an answer in about 3 weeks.
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Having ridden my K1200RS on PR's from PR2 to PR5 I finally got tired (no pun intended) of not getting more than 11-12K out of a rear and a bit more on the front, my local tyre shop recommended the GT variant which has a stiffer side wall but the same tread compound. the first thing I noticed was an improvement in handling due to the reduced sidewall flexing as the GT is stiffer in that area so with less flexing less heat is generated hence better milage, so if you ride on PR's talk to your trusted tire dealer about switching over to GT's
If you are wondering why a BMW rider is here it is because my recently purchased ST1300 arrives up from Melbourne tomorrow
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my recently purchased ST1300 arrives up from Melbourne tomorrow
Exciting WOW:
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Having ridden my K1200RS on PR's from PR2 to PR5 I finally got tired (no pun intended) of not getting more than 11-12K out of a rear and a bit more on the front, my local tyre shop recommended the GT variant which has a stiffer side wall but the same tread compound. the first thing I noticed was an improvement in handling due to the reduced sidewall flexing as the GT is stiffer in that area so with less flexing less heat is generated hence better milage, so if you ride on PR's talk to your trusted tire dealer about switching over to GT's
Yep- bikes that weigh as much as STs require the GT variant. I'm surprised your previous suppliers didn't know that. I think my throat has been cut if I get less than 20,000 kays out of a pair, but then, I do dawdle.
Just back from a 4250km weekend in Canberra. That brings up 7774km and both look as good as new!
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Check with the guys at Northside Motorcycle Tyres & Service, they were the ones who fitted mine
My current ST13 came with new Pirelli Angel GTs and gave me 17,600 km.
The PR5s I put on gave me 17011 km.
I used to always get 23,000 km and I was blaming the Pirellis, but this is looking like the new norm. I suspect it's because my riding has had a much higher percentage of pillion kms than previous tyres that had more FarRiding solo kays.
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Check with the guys at Northside Motorcycle Tyres & Service, they were the ones who fitted mine
If that's Simon in Brendale there's something wrong because he is my supplier and knows what the STs need.
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Bill, these guys are at Lawnton.
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Hey Biggles,
I just rang Brisbane Honda to get a set of 6GTs fitted at my next service. They checked and advised that the Road 6 GT does not come in a suitable size, but that the Road 6 is confirmed suitable for the ST1300. Can you check what you've actually got on Rubina?
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That was something I pointed out in an earlier post, Steve... :wink1
If you want to fit the GT variant, you'll have to go for the 180/55R17 which will fit with no problems (apparently) although the diameter is a whisker less than the stock size so speedo will be out a touch more than it already is plus you'll also be pulling a few extra revs...
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That was something I pointed out in an earlier post, Steve... :wink1
Ahh. You did indeed. But that was a few weeks ago so it had fallen out the bottom of my brain :fp
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:rofl
I can relate to that! :grin
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Do we have a wear report on these? How are they holding up now that mileage is getting higher?
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I got 25,000 kays out of a rear, and 26,000 from a front. That said, some riders might have pulled them both at 24,000.
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Thanks Biggles.
I'm told I 'need' to replace my tyres by my local dealer. I'm generally not happy with them as an organisation (long and old story but I don't figure easily)..... bit beggars can't be choosers. Are you happy with the PR6 and will buy again?
Cheers
Dave.
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I'm told I 'need' to replace my tyres by my local dealer. I'm generally not happy with them as an organisation (long and old story but I don't figure easily)..... bit beggars can't be choosers. Are you happy with the PR6 and will buy again?
Yep- I tried Pirellis once and only got 16,000 so I'm keen on the Pilot 6s. They dropped the "Road" for the 6th version for some reason. It's not like they're meant to be 80/20 gravel or something, but that said, I'm confident on "good" gravel (i.e. not badly corrugated, loose or with deep tracks).
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Yep- I tried Pirellis once and only got 16,000 so I'm keen on the Pilot 6s. They dropped the "Road" for the 6th version for some reason. It's not like they're meant to be 80/20 gravel or something, but that said, I'm confident on "good" gravel (i.e. not badly corrugated, loose or with deep tracks).
Not sure what tyres I have on the STs. Old ST got new Michelins (probably PR5s) tyres in Adelaide (short diversion from Mannum 2022), may have done 2000km before the "off" in March. New ST also has PR5s (I think). Perhaps I better have a good look.
Been running with PRs (2 to 5) since the CB1300, apart from a few diversions to Avon Storm (very nice on the CB) but none (that I could find) with the load rating required for the ST, and a Dunlop (an unscheduled could buy on the way home from Wooli 2017, couldn't get a Michelin in Bairnsdale).
As has been discussed elsewhere, best km I've got is around 15,000km from the PRs. If Bill can only get 16,000km from the Pirellis, best I stay away from them as I reckon I'd get less than 10,000km. Tyres are far too expensive to be replacing them at that rate.
Hey Bill, how many km per year would you be averaging?
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I'm an advocate for the Michelin brand. I bought my '04 1300 with only 8,000km's on the clock back in 2007. The OEM tyres, Dunlops from memory, were changed out a 8,000 on the front, done as a roadworthy requirement, then I changed the rear out at 10,000 as it was horribly scalloped. It was at this stage that I joined the original Yahoo ST group via one Diesel person. (who was not yet dubbed 'Diesel') Even back then the Michies were highly recommended. I put on a set of RP4's and got about 18,000 out of them. The last set of RP5's prior to selling the ST, I got 28,000 out of a set. Pretty much all solo riding, but the secret was to check tyre pressures regularly and maintain 45-46PSI, not the usual 42 recommended.
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Hey Bill, how many km per year would you be averaging?
Averaging the past 2 years, 28,800km on the ST and 5,300 on the V-Strom = 34,100km.
Unlike Skip, I use 42psi (290kPa) all the time. If I tried his pressures I might get a decent mileage out of mine too.
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Hey Bill, how many km per year would you be averaging?
Averaging the past 2 years, 28,800km on the ST and 5,300 on the V-Strom = 34,100km.
Unlike Skip, I use 42psi (290kPa) all the time. If I tried his pressures I might get a decent mileage out of mine too.
I couldn't get Road 6s this time round, so opted for Pirelli Angel GTs.
They were very sloppy at 42psi, so I upped them both to 45 and got the good old STella I'm used to.
Road 6s for me next time.
I still wished PR3s, 4s and 5s were still an option too!
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Getting a set of Road 6s fitted on Monday
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Just had a new PR6 fitted to the rear a couple of weeks ago. The front is a PR5 with quite a bit of tread left on it. I first had the Michelins on my ZRX and was reasonably impressed with them, so decided to stick with them. So far, very happy.