Townsville to Canberra

[saaz]

Not far to go. Must have had to slow down or have a stop as it is taking awhile. Lots of goats and other animals along that section, and that was doing it coming on nightfall.  Around 4 hours behind schedule. I would not expect an early start tomorrow.

[saaz]

Lionel had already arrived and gone to bed in Broken Hill, so don't worry about where the spot is (it may update later, but will when he gets going again). Ready for another big day tomorrow!

[ST2UP]

He's just went down the main street of Peterborough at 10:40pm SA time.

He probably wondered who the two idiots that were standing by a car in the cold waving at him as he rode past.

Good on you both Allan    shame you didn't have the OzSTOC SA flag a flappin in the breeze 


 

[saaz]

8.51 and Lionel is already 85 kms on the road.  An hour behind the plan, but yesterday was a long day. Depends on how late I have to stay up to sign him off.

[Biggles]

oops!... passed through Wilcannia 5 minutes ago.

The SPOT updates are very frustrating.  Apparently it's due to the huge number of people who use it around the world.  The FindMeSpot polling system that Spotwalla draws upon just can't keep up with the traffic.  It is worse at night in Oz, because that's when the Americans and Europeans are all out on the road.  Relief in sight as the northern winter sees them all put their bikes away until April.

[Biggles]

At least the Poms only post short rides, Biggles... to them, a 50 mile trip is an epic adventure 

but they probably still run a SPOT so they can show off their amazing feat to their friends.

[Biggles]

By the look of the weather radar in Canberra he might start praying for an improvement for this evening.

[saaz]

Lionel might be lucky as his arrival time through West Wylong-Wagga-Canberra coincides with forecasts of intermittent to no rain. Great planning!

[saaz]

Allowing for an hour late, at best 9.15 tonight, but based on the last few days it might slip. Depends a bit on whether the cooler weather is offset but some wind. Lionel has travel all the roads from here on many times so it is like riding around home.

[alans1100]

At least the Poms only post short rides, Biggles... to them, a 50 mile trip is an epic adventure 

I put yesterdays leg total kms and average speed on the my mc phoenix sire before I went to bed this morning (2am) and so far no response........

[Carsten]

Going well Lionel, looking good.

[alans1100]

Alan, just a query? How does your speedo stack up against the GPS?
My speedo reads 10 Km fast, showing 120 when my GPS indicates 110

Your difference would be within the ADR specified error range. ADR requirement is to have your indicated speed to show less than or no more than equal to the speed limit posted. Meaning if the speed indicated is 100 then your actual travelling speed must be 100 or less but within the 10% plus 4 k/h error range (the error is from memory but it won't be any more than that).

I have two car based GPSs and a Samsung tab and all three show different relative speeds compared to my bike speedo but the odometer is within 1 or 2% accurate. Also since going to GT spec tyres the error seems less and using the tab is about 6 k/h difference. The tab uses both US and Russian satellites so I would think more accurate

[Biggles]

Why did Lionel turn left at Nevertire?
The direct route to Canberra is down through Narromine.
Maybe he needs a get a corner docket somewhere to top up the distance.

[saaz]

The route is as planned for the distance need to achieve things by the end.

The SPOT speeds should be taken with a grain of salt, as when we were going to the NT RTE is was well under reporting what speeds we were actually doing on an average and actual basis. SPOT seems to be less reliable about these things now.

[Brookester]

Lionel is travelling at a steady dollar ten, making good legal time

Just remember that this SPOT link is via Spotwalla and therefore you cannot estimate speed at all due to all sorts of differences that have been well discussed across the LD community and are openly stated by Jason Jonas whom set up the Spotwalla site. Times can also be very way off.

[alans1100]

Yep, have to wait for the confirmed end of trip time, hours travelled, and distances covered to get true details.

I know you need to have all the signed dockets etc for a ride like this but wouldn't the trip record from something like Spotwalla also show the start/end times and distance ridden etc as well.?

[saaz]

It can be part of the submitted evidence, but safer to have some backup information as well.

Yep, have to wait for the confirmed end of trip time, hours travelled, and distances covered to get true details.

I know you need to have all the signed dockets etc for a ride like this but wouldn't the trip record from something like Spotwalla also show the start/end times and distance ridden etc as well.?

[Biggles]

The IBA will accept a SPOT map as substantiating evidence, but dockets and witnesses are the primary documents they seek, along with lines on hard copy maps.

[saaz]

1473kms is the total aim for today.  It is windy and cold here, estimated 8c or less, so not the best way to do the last 400kms or so.

Hey John... Lionel has just passed the 1000 Km milepost for today 

[saaz]

I was at Dubbo only the other day. It seems like a short run home relatively to the previous 6000kms or so!

[Brookester]

I know you need to have all the signed dockets etc for a ride like this but wouldn't the trip record from something like Spotwalla also show the start/end times and distance ridden etc as well.?

Short answer NO. It will only as saaz stated, form part of the documentation and considerations of the verification teams. Spotwalla is predominantly only utilised as one method of verifying the route you have stated as having taken.

And not to detract from the fact that Lionel is doing an absolute brilliant ride......

[saaz]

Lionel is at the cross point of deciding to do the original ride or the shortest way back.  Either way will end what has been an epic ride 

[saaz]

That is a good sign that he is feeling ok 

[alans1100]

Short answer NO. It will only as saaz stated, form part of the documentation and considerations of the verification teams. Spotwalla is predominantly only utilised as one method of verifying the route you have stated as having taken.

And not to detract from the fact that Lionel is doing an absolute brilliant ride......

It can be part of the submitted evidence, but safer to have some backup information as well.

The IBA will accept a SPOT map as substantiating evidence, but dockets and witnesses are the primary documents they seek, along with lines on hard copy maps.

Just curious. 

[saaz]

You can probably think of it in terms of primary and secondary evidence. Dockets etc give time, fuel, amounts etc that can tally up to looking ok. A spot could be put on a road train while the rider had a sleep and got it back later.  various combinations of evidence may be enough, but none in isolation.