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Title: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: terrydj on February 09, 2012, 11:22:45 AM
So I puts the camera on the bike and look out no friggin remote. Yeah shes lost'. So I gets another one from this bloke Link: http://www.camzilla.com.au/ (http://www.camzilla.com.au/)
and a couple of days later it turns up. So me being lousy and not wanting to lose it again came up with this. See pic. I put some Velcro on the bottom of the camera so when she's put away the remote can be stuck to it. The remote already has Velcro on it as this is where it sticks to the top of the clutch fluid resevoir. Now I know a few people have these so it may save them losing the bloody thing.
Oh yeah if you want a camera that works check these Drift cameras out. Their the best I've seen, and I've had a few including that trendy piece of crap and the Drift is the best of the lot
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b268/terryjohns/IMG_0507.jpg)
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on February 09, 2012, 11:50:32 AM
My remote for the 170 Stealth is velcroed to the bike between the handle bars.
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: tj189 on February 09, 2012, 09:32:38 PM
great cameras, I did the velcro thing and use the tie on loop as well :crazy
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Gavo on February 09, 2012, 10:04:48 PM
I've had a few including that trendy piece of crap  terrydj

which one is that so i can skip it  :think1
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: tj189 on February 10, 2012, 05:32:52 AM
Gavo, I haven't had mine long, so a bit curious as to what you have found wrong with the camera so I can avoid an foreseeable issues with the "trendy piece of crap"
Thanks for your advice  :thumbs
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: sac468 on February 10, 2012, 09:06:37 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b268/terryjohns/IMG_0507.jpg)
[/quote]

HEY TERRY,

i COULD BE WRONG BUT IS THAT A TOW BALL? does that mean you film where you have been?
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on February 10, 2012, 12:18:43 PM
I found that the little plastic latch on the battery door my Stealth had broken off a few weeks a go. I just contacted the shop I bought it from and they are going to replace the door for free, I just have to go in there and collect it. Its in Midland WA. You just dont get service like that very often.

Here is a link to their website, their prices are very competitive not worth the hassle and wait going OS for one.

http://www.launchhelmetcams.com.au/drift-hd-cameras (http://www.launchhelmetcams.com.au/drift-hd-cameras)
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Couch on February 14, 2012, 11:52:42 AM
Has anyone used the smaller HD model, and if so, how does it compare in quality to the other models. I know Terry has the X170 and Brock has the HD Stealth.The smaller HD is a fair bit more expensive........BUT, IS IT WORTH IT...........any thoughts fellas!  :think1
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on February 14, 2012, 12:17:25 PM
The stealth isnt very big/heavy, I dont know that the extra 120 beer tickets is worth it. The replaceable lens is a neat idea, but if you are going to use it in a damaging environment, get the water proof housing (it has replaceable lenses as well)

The stealth has one bad thing about it. When used on helmet, it takes a very clear pic of the Speedo/Tacho. Not such a good idea me thinks. :grin :grin :eek
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Gavo on February 14, 2012, 12:45:13 PM
Gavo, I haven't had mine long, so a bit curious as to what you have found wrong with the camera so I can avoid an foreseeable issues with the "trendy piece of crap"
Thanks for your advice  :thumbs


Im wanting to know what the trendy piece of crap was so i could avoid it
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: terrydj on February 14, 2012, 01:14:37 PM
Gavo, I haven't had mine long, so a bit curious as to what you have found wrong with the camera so I can avoid an foreseeable issues with the "trendy piece of crap"
Thanks for your advice  :thumbs
Im wanting to know what the trendy piece of crap was so i could avoid it
The piece of Crap is called a GoPro. Just a worthless piece of junk. The battery life is rubbish, and even if its just turned on and not filming. They have no playback feature, no view screen, no remote, you can't see what your filming, can't use it with gloves on, be buggered if you can turn it on and off if your moving, just junk and for the price you pay ??????????, just brubbish compared to the Drift X170.
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: terrydj on February 14, 2012, 01:15:33 PM
([url]http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b268/terryjohns/IMG_0507.jpg[/url])

HEY TERRY,
i COULD BE WRONG BUT IS THAT A TOW BALL? does that mean you film where you have been?
[/quote]
its a Ram Mount Ball screwed onto the camera
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Couch on February 14, 2012, 04:42:20 PM
After reading a recent post on Drift Cameras I started searching the net to see what prices I could find if buying from overseas.
I came across a web site, Alibaba.com, that is a Global Trade Site that can be used to source suppliers of Drift Cameras from China, Hong Kong, etc.  I found that on the site there are 124 suppliers of these cameras over there and the prices are very, very, much cheaper than buying here. For instance the Drift HD Stealth here in AUS sells for $269......they are available through them for $120 US, but because they are wholesalers you must buy 10 cameras, or $110 each (buy 15).....the newer and smaller HD Camera sells here for $399 and they are available for $140 but you must buy 15. All of the suppliers (124) listed have similar prices on the Cameras. Information is available on Alibaba.com on all suppliers listed.

It all looks very legit to me! :thumbsup

Diesel, I'm wondering if the powers to be might be prepared to look further into this and perhaps consider a bulk buy.  Because the value would exceed $1000 we'd be up for Duty and GST but that wouldn't amount to that much.
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: terrydj on February 14, 2012, 04:51:30 PM
Mate think they are all in HD now????? Klick on the link to find some places in Australia that have em. I brough mine from America and saved heaps
http://driftinnovation.com/where-to-buy/australia-new-zealand-dealer/ (http://driftinnovation.com/where-to-buy/australia-new-zealand-dealer/)
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: saaz on February 14, 2012, 05:00:12 PM
Here are some reviews and comments

http://www.webbikeworld.com/r3/delkin-wingman-hd/review.htm (http://www.webbikeworld.com/r3/delkin-wingman-hd/review.htm)
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Gavo on February 14, 2012, 05:14:54 PM
Thanks Terry i was avoiding that one dont like the whole look of it
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Couch on February 14, 2012, 06:20:14 PM
You can still buy the standard one through that Alibaba web site and they are even cheaper than the HD ones. If you buy 10 they are $110 each or for 15 they are $105 each. I believe HD would be they way to go though. I've looked at the places that they're available from in AUS and you just can't compare the prices to those from Asia!

Mate think they are all in HD now????? Klick on the link to find some places in Australia that have em. I brough mine from America and saved heaps
[url]http://driftinnovation.com/where-to-buy/australia-new-zealand-dealer/[/url] ([url]http://driftinnovation.com/where-to-buy/australia-new-zealand-dealer/[/url])
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: terrydj on February 15, 2012, 06:35:54 AM
Mate, what I said is just what I and others I know have said. Some sware by the GoPro but for me and a couple of mates, compared to the Drift its just junk. For me its more important to have things that do what I want them to do, when I want them to do it and if it dosn't, its just rubbish and I don't care what others say or what Brand name it has on it.
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Couch on February 16, 2012, 08:42:44 AM
On the same site I found Garmin Zumo 665 available from Malaysia for $250 US each (buy 5 units).

I'm not suggesting we look into buying them though because the maps would be different, but it's interesting when you consider the cheapest price available in AUS is $799.  :crazy

Bloody hell..........don't we get ripped off!! :cuss :cuss
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: saaz on February 16, 2012, 08:44:22 AM
The Zumo seems to be expensive everywhere. That is the first time I have seen a cheaper price. Garmin seems to be good at enforcing high prices.
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: terrydj on February 16, 2012, 09:12:55 AM
On the same site I found Garmin Zumo 665 available from Malaysia for $250 US each (buy 5 units).
I'm not suggesting we look into buying them though because the maps would be different, but it's interesting when you consider the cheapest price available in AUS is $799.  :crazy
Bloody hell..........don't we get ripped off!! :cuss :cuss
Think you can still get the Garmin lifetime update for around the $150.00 mark. Maybe you can update the overseas model with Australian maps. Seem to think that the warrenty may be country related????
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Dan on February 16, 2012, 10:47:05 AM

Think you can still get the Garmin lifetime update for around the $150.00 mark. Maybe you can update the overseas model with Australian maps. Seem to think that the warrenty may be country related????

I bought the Aus maps for my UK 550.  Can't remember how much they were but they were quire a lot - £150 or something.  And that's just for the maps, lifetime updates will be extra if I go for them....
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on February 16, 2012, 06:19:18 PM
Very Important Tip,

If like me you use a big powerfull suction cup to hold your camera, make sure you tie a strong tether of some sort to it. At some stage the suction cup will probably let go, and you dont want $300 of camera smaking into the road at 100+KPH. Mine came off yesterday, but it was tethered so it just bumped around on the fairing til I could pull over. Also, keep the string short, a tether that lets the camera hit the gound or wheels aint no good. :eek :eek :beer :popcorn :popcorn :beer :beer
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on February 17, 2012, 12:08:44 PM
Here are some examples from my camera. Resolution was 720 @ 60 fps taken at arounf 0530, just to give an idea of the low light performance. I leave my camera on the night setting all the time, as I think it gives a better picture

Two examples of each lot, one is on Photobucket and the other is the raw footage on dropbox

Photobucket links

 (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v235/Avtrician/?action=view&current=EarlyMorningUndermirror.mp4)

 (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v235/Avtrician/?action=view&current=EarlyMorningOnpanier.mp4)
Dropbox links

Cant get dropbox to work...  :|||| :||||
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Shiney on February 17, 2012, 09:38:28 PM
Wow :eek that looks amazing  :thumb :thumbs
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on February 17, 2012, 09:44:28 PM
And its not even HD, 1080 is even better
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Shiney on February 18, 2012, 09:58:01 AM
Nice very nice  :grin :thumb
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on February 18, 2012, 11:56:16 AM
Some still shots while not standing still, using the remote on the handle bars.  There is no digital zoom, but that is not so good anyway.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/Avtrician/BikeCam/FILE0015.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/Avtrician/BikeCam/FILE0011.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/Avtrician/BikeCam/FILE0007.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/Avtrician/BikeCam/FILE0004.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/Avtrician/BikeCam/FILE0003.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/Avtrician/BikeCam/FILE0002.jpg)
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: JuST Peter on February 18, 2012, 02:05:44 PM
That's excellent Brock, nicely put together too.
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Dan on February 19, 2012, 10:29:11 AM
I like the still shots, they have come out very well.  (Not viewed the videos as we only have a rubbish mobile broadband at the moment).
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Shaun on February 19, 2012, 08:02:20 PM
Looks good. You have just motivated me to try something.

I just electrical taped my digital camera + mini-tripod to my right highway peg.

Results tomorrow.

Cheers, Shaun
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Couch on February 19, 2012, 08:18:24 PM
Surprisingly good still shots Brock :thumbsup
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Diesel on February 28, 2012, 12:53:53 PM

 you must buy 10 cameras, or $110 each (buy 15).....the newer and smaller HD Camera sells here for $399 and they are available for $140 but you must buy 15.


Diesel, I'm wondering if the powers to be might be prepared to look further into this and perhaps consider a bulk buy.  Because the value would exceed $1000 we'd be up for Duty and GST but that wouldn't amount to that much.


Do you want me to put an  'expression of interest' poll Couch to see if we can muster 10 or more interested parties?
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: saaz on February 28, 2012, 01:10:15 PM
At that sort of price I would be interested in the HD one, as the normal price is not one you would buy just to try out. If I had one set up I might just take some photos and video rather than just ride...
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Couch on February 28, 2012, 01:14:14 PM
Diesel it was just a thought at the time........I've actually come across a used Drift HD (almost new) that a guy is asking $250.00 for. Best price anywhere new in AUS is $349.00. I'm trying to have a look at it on Thursday. I might try him at $200 if it looks good.
Have a look at the Alibaba web site & see what you think!!


 you must buy 10 cameras, or $110 each (buy 15).....the newer and smaller HD Camera sells here for $399 and they are available for $140 but you must buy 15.


Diesel, I'm wondering if the powers to be might be prepared to look further into this and perhaps consider a bulk buy.  Because the value would exceed $1000 we'd be up for Duty and GST but that wouldn't amount to that much.


Do you want me to put an  'expression of interest' poll Couch to see if we can muster 10 or more interested parties?

Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Diesel on February 28, 2012, 01:30:22 PM

I've actually come across a used Drift HD (almost new) that a guy is asking $250.00 for. Best price anywhere new in AUS is $349.00. I'm trying to have a look at it on Thursday. I might try him at $200 if it looks good.


OK - but you have to ACTUALLY USE IT OK Couch - not just tease us with great ride reports and no pics!        :well                        :crackup :crackup :crackup
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Couch on March 01, 2012, 06:57:51 PM
Hey Diesel.............I had a look at that very slightly used Drift HD today, and guess what!................it wasn't slightly used at all :cuss

If fact, not only was the remote control showing severe signs of wear on the control buttons, but when he took the camera out of the box the first thing I noticed was that the attachment to the helmet strap, which was still attached to the camera, was actually broken in 2 places :eek.............in other words it had been in some sort of stack up :well.

Of course the d#$@head was soooooo surprised and couldn't imagine how it could have happened. And he fumbled around when I asked him where he brought it from. Needless to say,  :-((( I didn't buy it!  I have quite a lot of good Camera gear that I've purchased over the years and I've never even considered buying second hand equipment previously.................and I certainly won't again!!

I've noticed the price of new ones have come down recently so right now I'm just :think1  :think1
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on March 01, 2012, 07:02:41 PM
When it comes to these sort of things, new is the only way to go. At least that way, you have a warantee claim
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Couch on March 01, 2012, 07:23:21 PM
You're so right Brock, you can't believe some of the things you see these days, without believing everything you hear!

When it comes to these sort of things, new is the only way to go. At least that way, you have a warantee claim
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Diesel on March 01, 2012, 09:53:09 PM
lol. Sorry Baz ol mate that it didn't live up etc etc...

Now, don't forget to splash water in your eyes when you tell your No.1 supporter so she thinks you're actually crying about the debarcle and says "Oh Big Bad, Bad Boy Baz Hunny, go get yourself a new one to wipe those tears from your face!"

Okay Okay - so I took a little bit of artistic licence - but the result is the same eh Couch?????       :grin

Thanks for sharing mate - around here - ANY story is a GOOD story!      :thumbsup

Cheers, Diesel

PS - when you guys coming up to stay in MY caravan? (As I DO NOT have a caravan - it is BYO!)      :crackup
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Couch on March 01, 2012, 10:34:15 PM
Watch out mate you might just find me a'knockin on your doorstep one day.
And as far as mentioning anything to my No1 supporter about the camera......ya gotta be kidding!, some things are better left unsaid!!

lol. Sorry Baz ol mate that it didn't live up etc etc...

Now, don't forget to splash water in your eyes when you tell your No.1 supporter so she thinks you're actually crying about the debarcle and says "Oh Big Bad, Bad Boy Baz Hunny, go get yourself a new one to wipe those tears from your face!"

Okay Okay - so I took a little bit of artistic licence - but the result is the same eh Couch?????       :grin

Thanks for sharing mate - around here - ANY story is a GOOD story!      :thumbsup

Cheers, Diesel

PS - when you guys coming up to stay in MY caravan? (As I DO NOT have a caravan - it is BYO!)      :crackup
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Couch on March 02, 2012, 07:35:35 PM
I'd be down for one if it happens!

Where is the group buy ? button
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Couch on March 03, 2012, 07:08:27 PM
Hey Brock.........I'd be interested to know where you had the camera attached to when taking those still shots :well
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on March 03, 2012, 08:19:03 PM
I will go out and take a picture just for you.

Its mounted on a big suction cup, and has a home made safety cord (needed once so far)
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on March 03, 2012, 08:48:22 PM
Pics

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/Avtrician/The%20Honda/hd170-1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/Avtrician/The%20Honda/hd170-2.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/Avtrician/The%20Honda/hd170-4.jpg)

Pics taken on my Galaxy Tab 10.1...

OK, I'm a gadget freak.. :grin
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Shiney on March 03, 2012, 09:13:59 PM
Looks good mate :thumb
That Galaxy Tab takes good pics too :thumbs
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Couch on March 03, 2012, 09:14:15 PM
Good on ya Mate......you're a champion!  That's exactly what I wanted to see!!

I will go out and take a picture just for you.

Its mounted on a big suction cup, and has a home made safety cord (needed once so far)
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on March 03, 2012, 09:39:30 PM
The suction cup is great, it can handle slight curve and sticks well. Its just a matter of experimenting to get the pics you want
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: LocuST on March 03, 2012, 10:53:16 PM
Nice use of the leg rope there Brock.

A Drift camera setup is on my ever growing wish list and great to see the various ways people attach them.
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on March 03, 2012, 11:01:38 PM
 link to the suction cup, unfortunately out of stock

http://www.launchhelmetcams.com.au/accessories/drift-innovation-suction-cup (http://www.launchhelmetcams.com.au/accessories/drift-innovation-suction-cup)
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Shaun on March 04, 2012, 09:42:07 PM
El cheapo camera electrically taped to a highway peg as I was riding around the inner west one morning.

Original is in HD. Weird vertical artefact pops up from time to time

(http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii571/shaun_sydney/th_dbb078db.jpg) (http://s1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii571/shaun_sydney/?action=view&current=dbb078db.mp4)

Cheers, Shaun
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Couch on March 06, 2012, 09:37:02 PM
Hey Brock.............just wondering, are you totally happy with your Drift HD Stealth  :thumbs ????

I've been looking at the smaller HD model and I can pick one up for $349 including a 16GB SD card + postage thrown in......but the Stealth, now being superseded, can be picked up for $269 incl postage, and I'm beginning to wonder if I shouldn't be looking at the Stealth. I'm fully aware of the advantages the HD has over the Stealth..........smaller in size.....replaceable lens........lighter weight,
+ SD card thrown in.........but I'm  :think1

How do you find the Stealth??
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on March 06, 2012, 09:43:47 PM
Stealth is great,battery life could be better but a bigger battery and an external power cord will fix that. also could use a bigger card, money will fix that.

Its easy to use, easy to download. If I was to choose again I would do the same.
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Aj1300 on March 08, 2012, 07:01:16 AM
It looks like a radar, you really look like a cop bike.no wonder the traffic parted.. Great shots, nice and clear. You needed to get a few shots with the front wheel up in the air. :thumbs
Cheers Aj  :blk13
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on March 08, 2012, 08:29:26 AM
Quote
You needed to get a few shots with the front wheel up in the air. :thumbs
I dont think so, that would be irresponsible, and I cant do that stuff (and never tried to)
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Aj1300 on March 08, 2012, 06:11:42 PM
Yes you can. Just think how impressed it would look, you on the cop bike, radar stuck on the side, sitting at the lights on the rev limiter , drop the clutch and up you go. Maybe put a bag of cement in the top box.
Only taking the p :hatwave that would be irresponsible  wouldn't it. Take a Viagra and give it a crack. :nahnah
Cheers Aj :blk13
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Couch on March 08, 2012, 07:21:37 PM
I don't know about Brock but if I took a Viagra I'd have an ulterior motive  :wink1
 :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on March 08, 2012, 08:01:00 PM
OK guys, Threads way off track, lets get back on to the subject please.
 :well
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: scarp on March 08, 2012, 09:33:38 PM
I don't know about Brock but if I took a Viagra I'd have an ulterior motive  :wink1
 :rofl :rofl
I'm told if you don't swallow it quick enough you'll get a stiff neck
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Couch on March 08, 2012, 09:56:23 PM
 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: STRay (Roo Killer) on March 11, 2012, 09:31:02 PM
 :thumbsup Just splashed out and ordered the Drift HD.

  :runyay 10% off sale convinced me to bite the bullet so I can get some photo's while on my "little IBA type" rides. If the last FarRide is a guide, I should get some good closeups of the local wildlife!
http://launchhelmetcams.com.au (http://launchhelmetcams.com.au/)

Be interesting to see how the HID spotties affect the photo's, if at all. Just have to figure a good spot to mount the camera!


 :dred11


Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Sicman on December 16, 2012, 03:39:22 PM
Ok as promised I finally got around to mounting my drift 170 camera on the bike. I was going to mount this on a ram ball on either reservoir cover, but this proved no good as it sat too low and caught the dash when turning. Plan B  - I remembered I had bought a special mount last year which bolt to the handlebar bolts. This worked and sits the camera up nicely and leaves plenty of room behind the screen when it is down
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt91/ajudd1/IMAG1317.jpg)
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt91/ajudd1/IMAG1318.jpg)
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt91/ajudd1/IMAG1319.jpg)
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt91/ajudd1/IMAG1320.jpg)
I havent road tested it yet as its very windy this arvo, but the initial bit of video looks good. I can power it by battery or can run it off the powerlet mounted on the riser.
I also fitted right and left scan mirrors on the screen so I can see behind and to the side when riding. This will give me real benefit when towing the camper trailer. I found last year I couldnt see over the camper trailer to see what traffic was behind or overtaking me till I either went around a bend or got the Mrs to head check. Now I can easily see whats there so that will make for a bit of safer riding  :thumb I will get some photos of those up later
 :slvr13
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: keith3po on February 05, 2013, 04:12:31 AM
Inspired by Mr Diesel i thought i would give it a go after looking around on my budget i picked the Drift HD720p.

This is my first try with it fixed it to dash shelf there is a bit of vibration so need to look at that, first time on two wheels since November  :-[ lousy weather we are having. :'(


(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_h5RZodjFSw/UQ_3OIw4VHI/AAAAAAAAAgA/Nc62USNZDsI/s800/IMG_1163.JPG)

Hopefully i will get it all sorted for my Scotland trip this year.

Drift test (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt10P0NCRGM#ws)

Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: STeveo on February 05, 2013, 06:43:53 AM
 :thumbs  Pretty good Keith, just need to go a bit faster to get rid of the rain drops on the screen.

 :bl11
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Diesel on February 05, 2013, 08:44:35 AM
Well done mate. That came up brilliantly!

I'm going to take a guess from the screen colour that you filmed this from the ST1100 NOT the ST1500?     Wot thuh

The converting/editing can take great gobs of time from your life, so plan ahead with the longer vids/larger files.    :thumb

It was great to see around your neighbourhood - I can't wait to get an eyeful of wee bonnie Scotland!     :thumbs

Thanks for sharing.

I keep missing some good footage - simply because I forget the camera is mounted and ready to go - I'm still new at this!       :fp

Cheers, Diesel
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on February 05, 2013, 08:55:53 AM
I saw blue stuff in the sky :eek :eek

Nice vid, what did you use to edit it??

You can get an external power cable for that cam, and a mike lead as well for running commentary.
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: keith3po on February 05, 2013, 06:51:45 PM
Yesterday bit of blue sky rain and hail this morning an inch of snow and still falling. :fp

Yep on the pan yesterday always a tough decision 1100 or 1500 love em both. :beer

Used windows movie maker for editing its already on the computer so works for me  :thumb as Diesel said put the kettle on it takes forever.

Didn't want to go too fast can't see the difference between water and ice. :eek
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: keith3po on March 07, 2013, 02:07:27 AM
Had a chance to try the Drift HD 720 again today paid £115 for it and on the whole when you look at some of the prices for a video camera i think its well worth it.
Only problem i can see at the moment is in strong light it can wash out the picture.
Screen is small waste of time unless i've got my reading glass's with me. :rofl
The remote control is handy with the camera on the remote is straight forward start stop works for me.
Can take still pictures also take pictures constantly and you can alter the time between shots.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-arelfZnhSg0/UTdaQKU9kVI/AAAAAAAAAuQ/8IGbMnties8/s640/IMG_1216.JPG)

No socket for external mike on this one.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-eYcNGYZVZs8/UTdaQPWISCI/AAAAAAAAAuM/7aKIES96uQ8/s640/IMG_1215.JPG)

Stick on holder for helmet.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-4P4Br5Hinho/UTdaNjo3qEI/AAAAAAAAAtg/3m7oxuT0lGU/s640/IMG_1206.JPG)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-yLOrb4q4-Mc/UTdaOGLAJ9I/AAAAAAAAAt4/KOjnqfxbC_g/s640/IMG_1212.JPG)

Don't want to lose it so fixed to a lanyard.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fZSfybh_xPM/UTdaQfL-xpI/AAAAAAAAAuU/UM2OG54WW5w/s640/IMG_1214.JPG)

Remote control on velcro strap can go round wrist or fix on handlebars.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hoqTDZ4l9K8/UTdaRhcBzeI/AAAAAAAAAuk/Lb4zzkWO7ho/s640/IMG_1219.JPG)

Another Drift test (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tvfvsl26UUo#ws)
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: keith3po on March 07, 2013, 03:40:54 AM
Also bought a cheapo suction cup  :-[
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-GmbvjFZecg8/UTdaNBpNyLI/AAAAAAAAAtk/uPuHwkzW4bY/s640/IMG_1203.JPG)

First and last try. :fp :||||

oops (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUTtpJOAuQI#ws)
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Biggles on March 07, 2013, 09:20:48 AM
Love the "clunk" as the suction cup gives way!  Best 15 seconds on Youtube!
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Diesel on March 07, 2013, 09:50:24 AM
Nice vid Keith - I have the same 'cheapo' suction cup, and it is VERY WELL TETHERED, I can assure you.       :-(((


So far, so good - but I removed the polish from the area first - dunno if this helps - but it has been on there for 5 weeks now.     :thumbs


Remote and lcd screen are two items I missed out on in buying the budget priced model of the Contour Roam


Love seeing Old Blighty - thanks for sharing.       :thumbsup


Cheers, Diesel
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on March 07, 2013, 12:06:20 PM
I have a similar suction cup, (not expensive, but not cheap either) If you pick a spot without too much curve, and moisten the cup I found it sticks well. I also had a tether, good thing, as after about two months, the holder let go at 110 ks.
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: keith3po on March 07, 2013, 07:40:31 PM
I've put the suction cup back on and its holding well, probably user error. :whistle
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Yorkie on March 07, 2013, 09:15:22 PM
For the guys in the West, Launch Helmet Cams have gone out of business, not replying to emails and a message on phone telling callers to not leave a message as it will not be checked.
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: keith3po on March 11, 2013, 05:17:37 AM
Had a play this morning 0 degrees and threatening snow but hey it didn't. 8)

Mounted on the screen suction cup works well when used properly. :-[
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-uxuapPQliVI/UTyNiBVGMUI/AAAAAAAAAyg/SD0dlzuRbOA/s800/IMG_1241.JPG)

Drift screen mounted (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKdzY-lUyqc#ws)

It was a bit shakey but that is the screen not the camera.

Also tried on the fairing i think this one is much better and being closer to the ground you look like your going faster. :rockon
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Qn74b0G1V0k/UTyNhMCL1zI/AAAAAAAAAyg/761sRtULAdo/s800/IMG_1243.JPG)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-6c2GzZrcM2U/UTyNhIillGI/AAAAAAAAAyg/aHq_e2Dhmv8/s800/IMG_1245.JPG)

Drift Fairing mounted (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNiP90z9xAE#ws)
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on March 11, 2013, 08:25:48 AM
pretty much the same as I have found. Less noise mounted on the fairing as well.
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Tackleberry on March 14, 2013, 10:23:11 AM
I drove something like 5 or 6 thousand K's with the windscreen mount on the 1100 and it was great.  This one is the full sized HD Stealth. 

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww323/Tack9204/LD%20Touring/IMG_0698.jpg) 

You can also see a lanyard tied from the suction cup to the screws for the screen, if you look close, for extra security.  Found this a great mounting point with the remote for some clear footage. 

Was happy with the footage I got from this position.  Would love to see a gyroscopic levelling lens to get the real feel of riding through some twisties. 

Brock any chance of this type of electrikery in your arsenal of knowledge?  If not leap to it boy. :CB-- :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on March 14, 2013, 11:16:13 AM
Stick the camera to your head, that usually stays pretty level.

Oh wait, that would imply that you were level headed.... cant have that now can we.. :)
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Tackleberry on March 14, 2013, 12:28:29 PM
 :spank :spank :spank :spank :spank 

I resemble that remark. :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: keith3po on April 09, 2013, 04:15:51 AM
I've been playing about with the exposure setting trying to stop the sky whiting out but it just ends up too dark, think i will leave it in standard setup and aim it down a bit.

Had a run upto Blackstone edge on Sunday twas a bit chilly and still some snow drifts here and there.

Hollingworth Lake to Blackstone edge. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMg7TLiuLf0#ws)

Went over to Hebden Bridge then on to Todmorden and back down to Littleborough some great roads around these old Mill Towns.
All the video was a bit dark so won't bother with it. :'(
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Abe on April 09, 2013, 06:56:55 AM
Looks great, and a bit chilly.
Yes, that is a good way to end ride.
Cheers
Dave
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Diesel on April 09, 2013, 07:53:15 AM
Nice Keith - the Drift is certainly susceptible to minor aperture changes, commensurate with the surrounding light - but I think all cameras would have similar probs whilst riding South-East into a low sun. It did a good job under those conditions.

I realise it's Winter/Spring there - but the low sun shows me how far England is (longitudinally speaking), around the globe, or from the equator!

Thanks again for sharing.

Cheers, Diesel
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: keith3po on April 10, 2013, 06:36:51 PM
Spring in name only its bloody freezing this morning  :fp That low sun can be a bugger.

Another thing i noticed with the aperture altered the camera is constantly compensating for the light which makes the focus go in and out aswell. 
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: keith3po on April 11, 2013, 08:25:40 PM
Salvaged a bit more vid,

Blackstone edge (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT6ilNjGi44#ws)
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Diesel on April 11, 2013, 09:41:41 PM
Wow - great viewing once again thanks Keith!      :thumb

Lens flare is - apparently EVERYTHING, as that sequence was crystal clear with great highlights and shadows.

Side note - I CAN'T BELIEVE you are allowed to park cars so that they infringe on the driving lanes! (such as at 1:35).

I realise there is no room, but there would def be "No Stopping" signs marked along that area in this country.

Keep 'em coming - we can't get enough.

Another side note... you will be glad to know that it has been getting noticeably cooler here, and the daylight hours noticeably shorter - great for you, crappy for us!   lol        :'(


Cheers, Diesel
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: keith3po on April 11, 2013, 10:10:54 PM
Cheers Diesel on the parking that is normal over here if the cars are on your side of the road you have to give way to on coming traffic.
A lot of the roads over here especially in the country side were originally single track for horse and carts and most houses built 100/150/200 years ago don't have a drive or garage. When the roads were made wider and tarmaced cars were scarce. 8)
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: sargent on April 12, 2013, 08:28:15 AM
Excellent Vid Keith.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: BigTed on April 18, 2013, 12:03:36 AM
... first time on two wheels since November  :-[ lousy weather we are having. :'(
Hey Keith - what's that big blue thing that appears in the top half of the frame at about 2:56? I lived for a year in the UK and never saw any such thing!
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: BigTed on April 18, 2013, 12:08:37 AM
...
[url]http://launchhelmetcams.com.au[/url] ([url]http://launchhelmetcams.com.au/[/url])
...

Sadly, these guys have gone out of business. Definitely mail-order now if I get financial approval.
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Couch on April 18, 2013, 09:32:36 PM
I can recommend "Camzilla" great response and service!!
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: BigTed on April 18, 2013, 09:56:19 PM
If you're in WA and interested, Drift UK will be running a stand at the York Motorcycle Festival this weekend. I called HurtleGear (http://www.hurtlegear.com.au/) (from Bunbury) who are also helping them out on the stand. I had a lengthy chat to them (Dave I think) today. This might be my reason (/excuse) to go to York.  8)
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: BigTed on June 02, 2013, 06:33:58 PM
 :runyay
I got a Drift HD Ghost for my birthday yesterday and have just put a mount on the side of my helmet, under the headlight, and on the topbox.... they say to wait 24hrs for the sticky-glue to set/cure properly before loading it up with a camera.... so a ride tomorrow me hopes. I'll post "my first vid" tomorrow if I can.
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Gavo on June 02, 2013, 07:10:46 PM
 :runyay luck dooer   :runyay

Happy birthday also  :beer
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Tackleberry on June 02, 2013, 08:34:52 PM
BigTed I would be VERY interested to hear your review of the HD Ghost as I am seriously looking at purchasing one myself. 

Happy Birthday also. 
Title: Drift Ghost-S
Post by: Rodd on November 23, 2013, 01:30:15 PM
I see that they are about to start selling the Drift Ghost-S. It can take video at full res at 60 fps.
In Australia a few places will be selling them at $479, but direct from Drift they are $399 ($au436 and delivery from U.S.).

I was just about to order the Drift Ghost HD but will hang off for now.

http://driftinnovation.com/drift-ghost-s/ (http://driftinnovation.com/drift-ghost-s/)
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on May 01, 2014, 07:57:41 PM
Just lashed out for the Ghost S, charging as I type. Must go get an SD card for it. The Stealth 170 has a stone chip on the lens, and a broken battery catch.. Will try some video tomorrow.

The good news is that the mounting hardware is all the same..
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Couch on May 01, 2014, 08:11:50 PM
Good stuff Brock, the Ghost is really good so the "S" should be super good!!

I look forward to your comments down the track! :grin
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on May 01, 2014, 09:33:39 PM
Micro SD (64Gig) fitted [about 10 to 28 hours of recording dpending on settings], firmware updated and battery charged (3.5 hrs of recording time.

All set to go.
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on May 02, 2014, 08:50:24 AM
Tried the Ghost s out on the ride in to work this morning at 0530is (the time stamp on the vid will be wrong). I had it set to low light, and I am impressed, the vision on the freeway is very good. At 1080P, 30 fps and low light, the battery gets eaten pretty  quickly, it would probably last an hour. So for extended night riding I would go for external power.

I will edit the video down from 45 min and post a little later.
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on May 03, 2014, 07:35:42 PM
Here is a bit of Daytime video, mic needs to be set at min or off as its very sensitive.

There is an app available for Ithing and Android that allows you to connect to the camera via wifi and set it up, turn it on and see where its pointing. Very handy for setting up on the helmet to ensure the lens is set vertically, and pointed straight and not off to the side.

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/Avtrician/Ghost-SDaytime_zps1c73fb96.mp4)
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on May 03, 2014, 07:40:18 PM
The side distortion is very much reduced. I'm very happy with the whole thing. I will shoot a small video tonight, to show low light capability, as I havent managed to edit the first video down yet.
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on May 04, 2014, 05:09:36 PM
Here is the low light vision, there is a surprise toward the end

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/Avtrician/GhostSLowLight_zps83e4677d.mp4)
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Couch on May 05, 2014, 09:06:20 AM
Fantastic low light quality Brock........where do you have the camera mounted??
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Diesel on May 05, 2014, 09:45:51 AM
Agreed Couch - fantastic vision under the circumstances Brock.     ++                           
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on May 05, 2014, 02:43:08 PM
The camera was mounted under the headlight on that flat bit of placky. It gets good clear vision there, (plus road grime in the wet weather) and not too much noise.


Did you notice the bright light flecks, like shooting stars before coming up on the truck.. I didnt notice them at the time, but they look good in the vid..
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Biggles on May 05, 2014, 03:28:55 PM
That's a very nice clip, Brock.  Can't go wrong with the Shadows!

Loved the sparks from the dragging ramp.  Reminds me of the old joke about the two sailors scrubbing the timber deck.  One says to the other, "Where's the soap"?
The other replies, "Sure does!"

When he gets home the driver will be asked, "Where's the ramp?"
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Couch on May 05, 2014, 04:24:01 PM
Never noticed the sparks when I first watched it, I guess I was looking elsewhere......just watched it again, full screen, now I see what you're on about.  Are you using the suction cup mount that comes with the unit to fix the camera to the bike? It looks to be a very smooth Highway you're riding on and you're obviously not getting much road vibration! I'm certainly impressed with the quality (could be something to do with the bike being WHITE)! I tried fixing my Ghost in a similar fashion but the country roads where I live here are too rough for it so I get too much vibration, I'm sure it would be fine out on a decent bit of road so I'll try it again some time down the track. I find I mainly use the camera now for still shots.

I must get myself back into video mode :grin

The camera was mounted under the headlight on that flat bit of placky. It gets good clear vision there, (plus road grime in the wet weather) and not too much noise.


Did you notice the bright light flecks, like shooting stars before coming up on the truck.. I didnt notice them at the time, but they look good in the vid..

Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on May 05, 2014, 06:39:16 PM
Mine is fitted with a flat clip socket. I will go and get a pic.  I think the suction mounts allow to much vibration, but its seems very much reduced with direct mounting.

The mount, surprisingly hard to take a pic of a black mount on black plastic..  :||||

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/Avtrician/Flatmount_zpsc83e3cd5.jpg)

Profile view of mounted camera.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/Avtrician/Profileshot_zps77faac9a.jpg)

Front view, no wonder its called a Ghost

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/Avtrician/Frontmount_zps70dd3782.jpg)

Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on May 05, 2014, 06:42:54 PM
The still shot modes, allow so many variations to be used, and there is the snap shot option while in video mode as well
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Couch on May 05, 2014, 11:08:39 PM
Cannot really make it out on the pics........."Flat clip socket"  is that one of the attachments supplied with the camera that attach with 2 sided tape......such as you would adhere to the helmet??
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on May 06, 2014, 08:27:21 AM
Thats the one, the tape sticks very very well.....
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Couch on May 06, 2014, 08:20:53 PM
It certainly does mate, I have one stuck to the top of my helmet! :grin
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: gibbo57 on May 27, 2014, 09:20:38 AM
Well after much reading here I finally lashed out and bought the Ghost 1080HD, not the S.   Because of my back situation I won't be able to use on bike for awhile but walking around with it and using it in car gave excellent results.   They don't have as many added accessories as the GoPro I don't think, but you can purchase other attachments on line.   Downloaded the drift app onto my iphone and it works just great.   Thanks to everyone in allowing me to make a good decision, well I think it was anyway.
Cheers
 :wht11
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on May 27, 2014, 01:18:55 PM
They dont need the accessories, most of the stuff is built in..  :)

The ability to use the phone to see where the camera is pointing is great, and good for controlling as well.
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Lionel on May 27, 2014, 09:31:34 PM
Brock, I enjoyed the video and music but I couldn't read the large green traffic signs. Perhaps I need new glasses.

Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on May 27, 2014, 09:42:59 PM
Well of course you couldnt, I dint have my glasses on at the time o:) o:) o:)

Real reason is it was dark, the signs were off to the left, and the camera was looking down the road not at the signs... Dont know if the signs can be read in daylight, may need to ride a lot slower. (Thats just not going to happen-- too dangerous to slow down)

Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Lionel on May 27, 2014, 09:53:19 PM
I tried to video travelling through towns on a holiday years ago with the intention of having a good reservoir of footage to make a reasonable holiday film.
I found travelling at the speed limit was way too fast to film decent detail, particularly with the camera pointed in the direction of travel.
It seems today's cameras suffer the same shortcomings.
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Brock on May 27, 2014, 09:58:57 PM
These cameras have a huge field of view, (160 o), so they cant focus on everything but they do a great job.
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Aussieboy on May 28, 2014, 10:02:12 AM
Gavo, I haven't had mine long, so a bit curious as to what you have found wrong with the camera so I can avoid an foreseeable issues with the "trendy piece of crap"
Thanks for your advice  :thumbs
Im wanting to know what the trendy piece of crap was so i could avoid it
The piece of Crap is called a GoPro. Just a worthless piece of junk. The battery life is rubbish, and even if its just turned on and not filming. They have no playback feature, no view screen, no remote, you can't see what your filming, can't use it with gloves on, be buggered if you can turn it on and off if your moving, just junk and for the price you pay ??????????, just brubbish compared to the Drift X170.

What kind of GoPro did you have. Mine came standard with a remote. If you want even more control just use the GoPro app through your phone, this also gives you a view screen and the ability to play back. I have no problems using mine with gloves on - the buttons are designed for use with gloves on. Only real issue is that I can't reach it in most of the places I mount it on the bike so using either the remote or my phone is essential. I usually set it up before a ride if I am going to just take video of the road and use the remote to turn it on and off. To be honest the times I want to take video I have a bit more to concentrate on than viewing what the camera is recording. Battery life seems to be about 2 hours if it is left recording or with the wifi connection to the remote or phone. If I am using it in the dash mount position behind the screen of the ST I can turn it on and off manually and generally I will get all the video I want for the day from the 2 hours of battery life. Not hard to recharge when I take a break with my Power Monkey any way if I want longer, or if it became an issue additional batteries would fix it up. I like the simplicity of splicing the GoPro video into video taken with other cameras and the ability to include higher quality stills whilst taking video. Guess everyone likes different things, at the moment looking at the number of professionals using GoPro it must be reasonably good. Bit like all those who knock Nikon and Canon cameras - take a look at what the pro's use - they don't use stuff because it's trendy.


Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Couch on May 28, 2014, 02:19:27 PM
From memory the Go Pro doesn't have "Video Tagging" which is a feature with the Drift! :grin
Title: Re: Drift and Stealth...
Post by: Aussieboy on May 28, 2014, 05:05:33 PM
From memory the Go Pro doesn't have "Video Tagging" which is a feature with the Drift! :grin
I guess you are referring to the ability of the Drift to buffer for a set time and then record when you hit the button, rather than the ability to "index" the video for easy search through a menu (which is a brief description of my understanding of video tagging). If this is the case it is a similar function to the looping function on the Go Pro.

As I mentioned previously we all have different needs and wants and different cameras will suit different users.