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Title: The Koran - not negotiable
Post by: JuST Peter on December 10, 2015, 07:05:13 PM
RECENT calls for a reformation of Islam, akin to what happened with Christianity in 16th century Europe, are all very well. But the suggestion has a fundamental flaw which goes to the nature of the Koran.

When Tony Abbott calls for a religious revolution to confront the ‘‘problem within Islam’’, this implies that something may be rotten within the Koran itself. Such an ‘‘honest debate’’ would be fruitless ­because the sanctity of the verses are non-negotiable.

The Christian Gospels were written up to four decades after the crucifixion of Jesus by his eyewitness disciples, based on their repeated recollections of his words and deeds.

However, the Koran is ­believed to be the actual words of God as revealed and recited as verses through archangel Gabriel to his messenger ­Mohammad, in the Arabic language, without translation, without interpretation. Hence, there is no wriggle room to argue that “what God really meant was this”.

Unlike the Gospels which were enriched by parables about the New Testament of love and forgiveness, the Koran is a thorough prescription that governs virtually every aspect of life from birth to death. It leaves little room for modernisation and adaptation.

Some have even sought to expunge all the verses that promote violence and contradict the premise that Islam is a religion of peace.

Ironically, this is what ISIS purports to be offering — a revolution to the purist version with literalist interpretations.
Title: Re: The Koran - IS quite negotiable for modern moslems
Post by: spanner on December 11, 2015, 09:28:25 AM
I will counter with the Catholic version of the bible is extremely prescriptive and also very violent.

Title: Re: The Koran - not negotiable
Post by: WendyL on December 11, 2015, 09:58:49 AM
I'll stick with Adam Hills' religion, "Happyism".  Family and helping others, can't go wrong there :Blow

http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/adam-hills-happyism/ZW0480A001S00 (http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/adam-hills-happyism/ZW0480A001S00)
Title: Re: The Koran - not negotiable
Post by: Gadget on December 11, 2015, 01:21:36 PM
Read what Kristina Kineally had to say about Abbott's "reformation" in the Guardian.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/dec/09/tony-abbott-you-do-know-you-belong-to-a-church-that-has-not-reformed-dont-you?CMP=soc_567
Title: Re: The Koran - not negotiable
Post by: Nigel on December 11, 2015, 08:49:58 PM
I dont care............................................ :wht11