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Farkles, Gear & Accessories => Farkles and Gear General Section => Topic started by: Brian on February 01, 2016, 04:19:16 PM
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Just wondering how often those with cruise control use it .........plus those members who haven't got C.Cntrl is it something you would fork out $1K plus fitting.
Cheers Brian
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I'd often thought about getting one, but the huge cost puts me off. I get by just fine with a Kaoko Throttle Lock.
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I have McCruise and use it when I do IBA rides or long distances out of Sydney.
Yes $1100.00 bills is a lot, it is one best thing I have added.
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I'd often thought about getting one, but the huge cost puts me off. I get by just fine with a Kaoko Throttle Lock.
I do likewise. Its not perfect but works on really flat roads or to give your hand and wrist a break(rest)
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I decided to fit a McCruise early last year as riding long distances in open country would cause the arthritis in my hands to be painful.
I don't have a problem with this when travelling through the twisties where my hands are doing more than hold the throttle at a constant speed.
The McCruise will be much appreciated on the ride to Perth in March.
If you intend to keep the bike and do a lot of riding I recommend buying the McCruise . . Easy to fit yourself and I used the ST1300's electric speedo pulse to provide information to the McCruise rather thanthe magnets and pickup on the rear wheel.
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I use cruise control in the car ALL THE TIME and I would not see any different reason for not using it on the bike if I had the money for one.
If I had the dollar bills to spare I would most likely get one put on ..... actually if I had the dollars to spare I would possibly look at getting a bike with cruise already a feature but that would be a tad more than the $1100 for the McCruise or whatever it is called.
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I use mine around town on the 70 kph roads- helps save me donating to the Policemen's Ball.
Invaluable on long runs, as noted.
Not cheap, and a project to install, but worth saving for if you're keeping the bike for a long while.
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ditto /\ as StinkyPete said, "... just fine with a Kaoko Thottle Lock."
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ditto /\ as StinkyPete said, "... just fine with a Kaoko Thottle Lock."
Same here except I use the Vista throttle lock. Even now after having the bike for 10 years I would still get a full blown CC but the cost is prohibitive.
The throttle lock gets used as soon as I'm out of town. Not to fussed about the speed it keeps after being set at about 3000 rpm (about 100 k/h indicated) on the flat and depending on the lay of the land my speed will vary between 90 and a 110 (sometimes less or more).
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I use McCruise best system I have had it is easy to use and reliable in all conditions I had Brian Crawford install mine and done a awesome job
Farkelit
Brian Crawford
Located in Capalaba QLD 4157
Mobile: 0447 224 099
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I had the McCruise (already fitted when I bought the bike) on my ST1300 and used it everyday. In 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, 100, and 110 zones. If I had got to the NT, I would have used it there too.
Great for relieving the wrist, but as Biggles also said, great for reducing the public donations. Easy to use, easy to adjust speed when changing zones (press and hold "Res" to increase until up to the desired speed, press and hold "Set" to decrease)
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I forgot to mention I use the throttle lock thingy .... cant remember the brand .... almost as soon as I am up to the speed limit. Such an easy thing to do and it makes sure you are at least in the ball park of the speed limit .... on flat ground. You need to be really aware on hills both decline and incline .... huge differential in speeds.
I found it almost useless on the Pacific highway between Sydney and Newcastle with all the hills etc but for 90% of the time it is great.
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I have a throttle lock, can't remember what brand. Only tend to use it on longer rides to give my wrist a rest.
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A wrist rest (or whatever you call them) like this:-
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Motorcycle-Throttle-Assist-Wrist-Rest-Cruise-Control-Fits-all-grips-NEW-/110962178102 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Motorcycle-Throttle-Assist-Wrist-Rest-Cruise-Control-Fits-all-grips-NEW-/110962178102)
allows you to flex your fingers while maintaining throttle position.
My 99 Wing that I bought in Brisbane and rode home has these fitted (to both sides):-
http://www.kuryakyn.com/products/36/iso-throttle-boss (http://www.kuryakyn.com/products/36/iso-throttle-boss)
My first thoughts were that I would be removing them as soon as I got home but grew to love them.
They were the first fargle I purchased for my GL 1800. Even on the clutch side they take the load off you wrist.
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Ditto to what both Biggles and Gadget said. I use mine whenever I have the chance. My money is too hard to come by to just give it away to the Govt.
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..... You need to be really aware on hills both decline and incline .... huge differential in speeds.
I found it almost useless on the Pacific highway between Sydney and Newcastle with all the hills etc but for 90% of the time it is great.
This is where the McCruise comes into its own. It throttles up to maintain speed up hill and will also decelerate to try and maintain speed downhill. Usually quite successfully.
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It's on my list of things to get for my new bike :thumb :grin :thumbsup
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no $'S so i made a throttle lock. even though it cant be used all the time still gives your hand a rest.
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I use my MC cruise regularly on known over policed urban highways (saved me just last week) and at higher speeds out in the country.
When upgrading from the old :slvr13 to the newer :blu13 cruise was on the list of must haves.
If you do a lot of riding i would not hesitate to part with the moola.
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no $'S so i made a throttle lock. even though it cant be used all the time still gives your hand a rest.
Have a look at this old post for a dirt cheap throttle lock.
http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=354.msg11547#msg11547 (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=354.msg11547#msg11547)
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Just as with cars,don't use your cruise control in the rain.....very dangerous :eek
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Just as with cars,don't use your cruise control in the rain.....very dangerous :eek
Have heard that before, can you explain why?
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If your chosen vehicle starts to hydroplane or skid in wet weather the cruise control has a tendency to make matters worse by trying to keep your vehicle going at the chosen set speed.
I had a few vivid moments taking Tipsy to Sydney in my now disposed of car to pick up his puppy Turvy.
Matters were made worse by the car being front wheel drive.I lost traction a few times on various sections of the hwy north of sydney in particularly wet weather.
Took me a few times to realise that turning the cruise off and lowering my speed was the best way to go.
Even though the tyres were only a few months old and of good quality the conditions were obviously far from ideal.
I had the same experience heading down to Guyra a few weeks ago in the wet.
Having been up since 5am then getting away from the local bike shop with a new rear tyre at 1pm,i popped the cruise on in a straight section in the rain south of GI to try to defog/clear my visor.
It got a bit ugly,not helped by a new rear tyre that had been ridden on dry roads for a few hours.
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I have to agree with STimpy.
When I was struggling to regain control of my RED ST300 bike at night in the pouring rain having hit a slippery oily patch, the last thing I wanted to do was grab the brakes. So, of course, the cruise control was pushing the bike along nicely, contrary to what I wanted.
I probably would have lost control in any case but these days I don't use cruise control in the rain.
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I generally use a quick touch of my clutch lever to turn CC off on my wing. Very small movements of clutch and hand brake lever should drop CC off well before they perform any other function. Obviously there will be times when the weather makes it not ideal to maintaining a constant speed and one needs to be far more alert but I think it maybe an over generalization to say not to use CC in the wet.
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Most CCs these days have a coast function now which takes away the need to touch the brake/clutch for most situations.
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Most CCs these days have a coast function now which takes away the need to touch the brake/clutch for most situations.
What activates the coast function?
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I recently fitted an MC Cruise to my 1100. I love it. Very useful, but one should choose carefully when it is safe to use. It isn't an auto-pilot.
On mine, touching the on/off button disengages the cruise, if it is engaged. All three buttons do different things, depending on the current state of the cc i.e. Set/Accelerate, Resume/Decelerate, On-off/coast. The clutch, both brakes and over-revving also disengages the cc.
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Most CCs these days have a coast function now which takes away the need to touch the brake/clutch for most situations.
What activates the coast function?
The coast function still requires manual input though is what Glen is driving at here i think ....
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I recently fitted an MC Cruise to my 1100. I love it. Very useful, but one should choose carefully when it is safe to use. It isn't an auto-pilot.
On mine, touching the on/off button disengages the cruise, if it is engaged. All three buttons do different things, depending on the current state of the cc i.e. Set/Accelerate, Resume/Decelerate, On-off/coast. The clutch, both brakes and over-revving also disengages the cc.
Mine must be an early model, as I don't have a "coast" (i.e. disengage) function.
The only thing I wish mine had is the ability to disengage without using the brakes or clutch, just as you can with a car one.
The Resume function works fine. On the Wing, a very slight movement of the clutch lever disengages it.
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Most CCs these days have a coast function now which takes away the need to touch the brake/clutch for most situations.
Probably more a car thing as it looks like motorcycle CCs haven't have caught up with the later car technology.
The one on my car as the set button for when it's first turned on and that doubles as a + set speed, then there's a - set speed and there's the res/coast button. Coast works the same as the Off but leaves the CC operative instead of turning it off.
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McCruise has 3 buttons Set/Acc, Res/Dec and On/Off . . Same as in my cars . .
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Most CCs these days have a coast function now which takes away the need to touch the brake/clutch for most situations.
What activates the coast function?
The coast function still requires manual input though is what Glen is driving at here i think ....
Correct Stimpy ++
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One press of the On/Off button moves the cruise to coast while retaining the previously set speed, resume gets it back into the previously chosen speed, a second longer press turns the cruise control off altogether.
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One press of the On/Off button moves the cruise to coast while retaining the previously set speed, resume gets it back into the previously chosen speed, a second longer press turns the cruise control off altogether.
Hmm- I'll have to try that tomorrow. My experience has been pressing the on/off switch loses the previously set speed. You're say "resume" turns it back on, or do you have to hit "on" then "res"?
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One press of the On/Off button moves the cruise to coast while retaining the previously set speed, resume gets it back into the previously chosen speed, a second longer press turns the cruise control off altogether.
On what bike or CC system?
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On my ST1300 with a 2015 version of McCruise, taps in to the bikes speedo pulse rather then using the magnet setup at the rear wheel . . Doubt if this change to speed pulse pickup would have any bearing on operation of the CC though.
Yes Biggles just tap the on off to move into coast but still retain the previously set speed and then tap Res to go back to that speed setting. A longer press of on/off does turn the CC off altogether. Means one doesn't need to tap the brakes to temprarliy go to coast . . Desirable, in some circumstances, not to signal turning cruise off by tapping brakes.
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On the way to Balranald I was day dreaming on a sunny morning on the Burly Griffin Hyw but the copper coming my way was not and picked me at 126k. That was half of a CC which I installed after.
As Gadget said it may saves on gov donations which in my case most like would have. I got the Rostra CC and after a lenghty install I got it working nicely. This unit is electro/mechanical and does need vacuum at all. Total cost was under AU$ 500.00 and with a bit more dilligence I could have saved maybe $200 by just how and where to buy. I installed it in the left storage pocket which is very confinient for adjusting at the setup phase.
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One press of the On/Off button moves the cruise to coast while retaining the previously set speed, resume gets it back into the previously chosen speed, a second longer press turns the cruise control off altogether.
Hmm- I'll have to try that tomorrow. My experience has been pressing the on/off switch loses the previously set speed. You're say "resume" turns it back on, or do you have to hit "on" then "res"?
Did you get to try out the coast option today Biggles
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Ive had a cruise control on my 1100 for at least 10 years. Without a doubt its the most usefull accessory ive ever fitted to a bike. I will be putting one on my vfr when finances permit.
Laurie
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Afternoon folks......thank you for the replies and it would appear the majority of those responses are pro cruise control and those others appear to be of the same persuasion as myself with the cost of the unit being a major stumbling block. Looks like I will be keeping my ST old school and twist the wrist. Cheers Brian
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A couple of years ago, my wife and I were travelling back from Busselton on our 2012 Goldwing, after taking part in the Black Dog ride. It had been raining and the road was wet. Like a lot of WA roads, this particular bit of road was well used by trucks on hot days, as evidenced by the tar tracks causing shiny slick strips when wet.
I had Cruise control engaged and was cruising along at just over 100kph. As I was travelling along I entered one of these shiny wet tar strips. Before I could disengage the Cruise Control, the bike fishtailed probably about 5 to 7 times. It was the most scary thing I have ever experienced on a bike. The rest of the ride home was pretty subdued. Couldn't help thinking what might have been the outcome.
I think I lost my nerve from then on, riding the Goldwing in the wet, which is why I am now riding my ST1300.
There is no doubt whatsoever in my mind, that riding in the wet, with Cruise Control engaged, is a Very Dangerous pastime.
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Thanks to Brian Crawford I have my MCC all working as it should again.
Note for the uninformed, if you replace the indicator and or brake lights to LED you will more
than likely have a need to visit Brian if you are in Brisbane and if you are not mechanically minded.
Love using our MCC but as others have stated MCC would sell more if they reduced the price a bit.
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Love using our MCC but as others have stated MCC would sell more if they reduced the price a bit.
You would think they could drop the price a bit- they must have recouped their development cost by now.
I know they have CCs for at least 13 brands of M/C, not to mention the many models. They also make them for trikes and quads.
Maybe an official application from OzSTOC pointing out how many of us there are, and how highly regarded their product is, would elicit a club discount that could tip a few buyers their way.
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The cost is justified when you consider the components. its not throttle lock we are talking about that usually slows down gradually and cannot maintain the set speed.
they are a complex bit of gear, i deal with them all the time and the development continues, now with electric servo option and other little upgrades.
anyway, they are the best around, i sell them, install them, repair them and would not be without the one on my bike. anywhere from 40kph to well over the hundred they are accurate to within 1-3klm waver, so small you dont even feel it.
look forward to seeing you all soon on the road. WOW: :grin :grin ;-*
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Been there, done that Brian...lol
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Found this on the MC Cruise web site:-
"Are you a member of a motorcycle forum or club? Email us for your unique 5% discount code!
June 17, 2015
Members of motorcycle clubs or forums – ulysses; red riders club; farriders; hondaf6b, F6Baggers; F6Cforum; V-twinforum, advriders, iron butt, four corners or other motorcycle forums, clubs and affiliations are welcome to email us requesting their unique discount code. All they..."
Looks like all we need to do is apply.
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Does that equate to $50 saving per $1K ?
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Does that equate to $50 saving per $1K ?
Sounds about right ;-*
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A couple of years ago, my wife and I were travelling back from Busselton on our 2012 Goldwing, after taking part in the Black Dog ride. It had been raining and the road was wet. Like a lot of WA roads, this particular bit of road was well used by trucks on hot days, as evidenced by the tar tracks causing shiny slick strips when wet.
I had Cruise control engaged and was cruising along at just over 100kph. As I was travelling along I entered one of these shiny wet tar strips. Before I could disengage the Cruise Control, the bike fishtailed probably about 5 to 7 times. It was the most scary thing I have ever experienced on a bike. The rest of the ride home was pretty subdued. Couldn't help thinking what might have been the outcome.
I think I lost my nerve from then on, riding the Goldwing in the wet, which is why I am now riding my ST1300.
There is no doubt whatsoever in my mind, that riding in the wet, with Cruise Control engaged, is a Very Dangerous pastime.
Maybe Mr Goldwing does not have the over rev cutout software that exists in MC Cruise computers.
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Love my MCC - 6 months ago the transponder went hay wire and I ordered and fitted a new one with no issues since. Makes getting anywhere that bit easier :thumb
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I generally use a quick touch of my clutch lever to turn CC off on my wing. Very small movements of clutch and hand brake lever should drop CC off well before they perform any other function. Obviously there will be times when the weather makes it not ideal to maintaining a constant speed and one needs to be far more alert but I think it maybe an over generalization to say not to use CC in the wet.
Hmmm!!! Interesting. I just finished installing the Rostra CC and while I was connecting the clutch switch noticed that it required the lever to be pulled all the way in before the switch operated. I might revisit the switch mounting again and see if it is adjustable.
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The cost is justified when you consider the components. its not throttle lock we are talking about that usually slows down gradually and cannot maintain the set speed.
they are a complex bit of gear, i deal with them all the time and the development continues, now with electric servo option and other little upgrades.
anyway, they are the best around, i sell them, install them, repair them and would not be without the one on my bike. anywhere from 40kph to well over the hundred they are accurate to within 1-3klm waver, so small you dont even feel it.
look forward to seeing you all soon on the road. WOW: :grin :grin ;-*
Good morning Brian, with the lights fitted on the ST boy do people notice the bike. Many look and look again. Thanks mate.
GOF54
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That's a lovely photo of you on page 2 of the local rag today GOF54 :thumbsup
While you have the bike undressed Brian(Farkleit) you may as well fit the towbar as well ;-*
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That's a lovely photo of you on page 2 of the local rag today GOF54 :thumbsup
While you have the bike undressed Brian you may as well fit the towbar as well ;-*
Thanks but no thanks to the towbar STimpy.
I'm a bit like pitbuul when I have something drives me.
When a local Councilor (Alan Beard) was doing a flyer drop 2 weeks ago I got into his ear about the tar & undulations at the intersection of Birkdale Rd & Old Cleveland Rd East, just down from the Birkdale South Primary School and it only took a week but it has been fixed now.
GOF54
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That's a lovely photo of you on page 2 of the local rag today GOF54 :thumbsup
While you have the bike undressed Brian(Farkleit) you may as well fit the towbar as well ;-*
Thanks but no thanks to the towbar STimpy.
I'm a bit like pitbull when I have something drives me.
When a local Councilor (Alan Beard) was doing a flyer drop 2 weeks ago I got into his ear about the tar & undulations at the intersection of Birkdale Rd & Old Cleveland Rd East, just down from the Birkdale South Primary School and it only took a week but it has been fixed now.
GOF54
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If the local election was not upon us it probably would not have happened so quickly Bill :fp
The towbar has been sitting in the garage for a few months....i figured Brian could fit it while he is putting the lights on(identical to your setup).
Did you need to buy a strobe module for your 3led bar lights Bill or where they already set up for it ?
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No mate, Brian sourced the lights and you don't need a modulator. All self contained and over 10 light patterns to choose from.
With regards to the intersection I had the request in with Redlands Council 2 weeks before that. I was just waiting for a reply as to wether it was State Roads responsibility or local Council.
Obviously after the call to Mr Beard it was Councils lot.
Anyway it's done now.
Was a bit unsettling on the bike in the wet.
GOF54
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