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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: spanner on January 16, 2017, 06:32:24 PM
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This popped up in my ad feed. Now usually I totally ignor ad feeds because .... well they are ads.
This time it intregued me enough to actually look.
Wonder what your thoughts are on this little oil change gadget.
http://www.ezoil.com.au/?gclid=CMXXiv6cxtECFRUKKgodsBMN4g (http://www.ezoil.com.au/?gclid=CMXXiv6cxtECFRUKKgodsBMN4g)
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they don't list anything for honda as what they list under honda are all kawasaki models
paul
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they don't list anything for honda as what they list under honda are all kawasaki models
paul
I sent them a message saying just that :thumbsup
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Dunno. Think I'll just keep burning my fingers.
Having something protruding from the sump doesn't appeal to me.
And what if some dill knows about them, sees yours and decides to drop your oil for you. Paranoia maybe, but...
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It would be ok for the 1100, as its a forward facing drain. it would need the down elbow but otherwise it would fill with dirt.
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Having spent 20 years in the oil and gas industry this claim on their website is simply false-
The EZ Oil Drain Valve incorporates the “ball valve” design of valves used in pressurised gas applications and will not leak. Every single valve is constructed under precise specifications and pressure tested, ensuring a perfect seal upon factory approval. The EZ Oil Drain Valve is produced in an ISO-9001 certified factory.
Ball valves can and do leak but having said that I would use one of these but with a plug instead of the hose adaptor. Where you rely on the plug to stop it from leaking but remove the plug and you have an easy way to drain the oil.
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I do like the concept of being able to simply attach a hose and open a valve to drain the oil. However, I'd be concerned about fitting anything that extends below the bottom of the sump, because of it's vulnerability to being knocked and damaged.
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they don't list anything for honda as what they list under honda are all kawasaki models
paul
I sent them a message saying just that :thumbsup
They have replied :thumbsup
The list of Honda bikes has been updated to show Honda models
ST1100 = EZ-109
ST1300 = EZ-106
Cheers
Shiney
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People claiming that ISO 9001 gives a great product amazes me. ISO 9001 is a quality control process, if you're making shit then all ISO 9001 ensures is that all your shit is of the same quality. If you've designed a great product, are using good materials and have good machinery and trained staff then ISO 9001 ensures a consistent good product. But you can design your processes around bad design/poorly trained staff/inadequate material quality and an ISO 9001 accreditation agency won't check your design for you, will only ensure your paperwork trail says you will train your staff and not check that the level of training is suitable for what the job they are doing and won't check the quality of the material you're using just that the material will meet the spec you set for it (if you say you'll use cast iron then ISO 9001 won't tell you you should be using SS 316).
I'd be wary about adding something hanging down from the sump, especially something someone could open just with their hands and drain your sump for you.
As for making oil sampling easier, that valve and pipe end would fill with dust/dirt and your oil sample would be worthless.
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There would be no problem of hanging down on the 1100, and pressure isnt a consideration as the sump isnt pressurised.
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Jack - EZ Oil Drain Valve <jack@ezoil.com.au>
Hi Dave,
Your Honda ST1000 has a 12mm x 1.5 sump plug and uses our EZ-109 valve.
Regards,
Jack
EZ Oil Drain Valve
ezoil.com.au
1300 87 82 EZ
PO Box 300, Emu Plains NSW 2750
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as far as someone emptying the oil from your bike I would think they would really REALLY need to A) know what this product is and B) be really observant to see that you had one and C) a real prick.
point C is a reasonable prospect but point a and b would not.
in relation to the spout filling with dirt and dust .... yep that is an issue BUT one I think that could be easily dealt with by using a plug of some sort ... BUT .... if this is a supposedly quality product then I think I am going to feed this back to them and see what their response is.
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I have asked Jack to respond to the issue of potential dust and dirt clogging up the hole.
will forward his response to you all as soon as I get it.
Cheers,
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his VERY QUICK reply
Hi Dave,
We have caps.
To cover the hose end
https://shop.ezoil.com.au/products/cap10
To cover the valve (no hose end attached)
https://shop.ezoil.com.au/products/pc001
It possibly wouldn’t matter if dirt and crap got in the end anyway. It would drain out with the oil, unless it was crusty dry crap.
Regards,
Jack
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they don't list anything for honda as what they list under honda are all kawasaki models
paul
I sent them a message saying just that :thumbsup
They have replied :thumbsup
The list of Honda bikes has been updated to show Honda models
ST1100 = EZ-109
ST1300 = EZ-106
Cheers
Shiney
Here is a little more info from Jack at ezoil.com.au.
"I have added the ST 1300 now. ST1100 is there but it uses the smaller 12mm x 1.5 (EZ-109) sum plug.
We do group buys too, so if you can get a few together we can do a discount. They all need to go to one address, though, and the group buy organiser can distribute.
5% off for 5 valves or more
10% for 10 or more
12.5% for 20 or more
15 % for 40 or more
Shipping $9.50 for any quantity"
So if there are a few people that are interested in this you could all get together and get them a little cheaper :thumbsup
(If any valves need to be distributed to other areas of the country from the State they are delivered to, they could always be brought to the Rally to be sent out to everyone :wink1)
Anyway, I just thought I'd let everyone know :hatwave
Cheers
Shiney
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Think I'll just keep burning my fingers ..... Having something protruding from the sump doesn't appeal to me.....
...... However, I'd be concerned about fitting anything that extends below the bottom of the sump, because of it's vulnerability to being knocked and damaged.
My initial thoughts too.
I have some very minor underside damage to the fins on the ST1300's sump due to bike "bottoming-out" in a very low speed manoeuvre on the side of a track on the West Coast of Tassie. If I had this gizmo fittedd, the damage may not have been minor.
Mmmm ........ gizmo versu slab of beer and burn't fingers? I don't mind burnt fingers.
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I have created a group buy thread for this ...... remember it can be for you CAR, UTE, TRUCK, BOAT, ETC ETC.
http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=11680.new#new (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=11680.new#new)
cHEERS.
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Sounds like a good addition for the ST1100 :thumbsup
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IF, I wanted to do this I would go to an industrial supplier and buy a stainless steel ball valve (about $6) and an adaptor of the right thread (possibly $3 more) and take the handle off after each use so it cannot be opened by someone reaching under the sump.
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IF, I wanted to do this I would go to an industrial supplier and buy a stainless steel ball valve (about $6) and an adaptor of the right thread (possibly $3 more) and take the handle off after each use so it cannot be opened by someone reaching under the sump.
I guess you could be right about the supplier BUT this is easy and what-not
What I don't understand is peoples paranoia about someone reaching under the bike to the sump and emptying the oil out. Who EVER looks at a bikes underbelly to look for an opportunity to let someones oil out. this paranoia is not healthy. :p
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agreed...someone could just push your bike over too if they wanted.
personally, I find the 1100 sump plug so easy to access with a spanner, the time saving of a tap doesn't add much value.
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agreed...someone could just push your bike over too if they wanted.
personally, I find the 1100 sump plug so easy to access with a spanner, the time saving of a tap doesn't add much value.
I was not
Looking at the time savings for me
Personally .... because I am such a princess I was looking at the cleanliness aspect .... I don't want icky dirty fingers!! 😜😜😜
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agreed...someone could just push your bike over too if they wanted.
That lacks the subtlety that the guys who go around looking for quick-release oil devices thrive on. :grin
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The essential thing with these is thread pitch and size. Does not matter if its for a Lada or a HondiZukiwaka. Does not matter if you have to do some homework to find your bikes thread pitch. Its a good bit of kit.
We have a similar products on some of our saws and its eliminated the DH factor. Considering doing this to the forklift too.
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as far as someone emptying the oil from your bike I would think they would really REALLY need to A) know what this product is and B) be really observant to see that you had one and C) a real prick.
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s277/cool_blue_ice_2002/81IcO.jpg)
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I love the sign at first glance being a Honda owner but considering the paranoia of sump emptier vandals I believe this sign a challenge to them greater than getting on their knees to empty the oil. I too will stick with a plug and spanner. Its worked since 1999 on my bike so hopefully another 5 or so years will do me. By then an ST1300 will be cheaper or I'm too old to ride :-(
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