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Farkles, Gear & Accessories => Farkles and Gear General Section => Topic started by: Streak on September 25, 2011, 12:00:23 PM
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Hi Gents,
I am looking at getting a Blue Tooth Intercom for my Helmet, i dont have the dough to spend on a star comm, or a Scala Unit, I have been browsing ebay, but i am just interested to hear any experiences....
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1-x-BT-Interphone-BLUETOOTH-Motorcycle-Helmet-INTERCOM-/160632265379?pt=AU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories&hash=item25666ddaa3#ht_3637wt_1139 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1-x-BT-Interphone-BLUETOOTH-Motorcycle-Helmet-INTERCOM-/160632265379?pt=AU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories&hash=item25666ddaa3#ht_3637wt_1139)
is one i have found and looks to be ok, any thoughts?
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A2DP = stereo music when paired to a phone or MP3.
AVRCP means remote control, so if you have a matching phone you can recieve calls by touching the control unit on your helmet.
They're light at 20 grams and they're waterproof.
Unless you've got a really quiet helmet, really powerful magnets are needed, like 0.8 - 1.2 T. (Description just says powerful)
Screw on clips ??? Hope you don't have to screw a bracket to your helmet.
At 6 hours talk time they won't last on one of those 1200km FarRide thingos. :D
Hope that helps
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I don't have any experince with that particular one. here is some info that may assist http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-intercoms/bluetooth-intercom.htm
I use earplugs these days with inbuilt sound. Comes from too many years not using them (quite apart from too many loud concerts I suppose !)
I think you jsut need to list what you want from the system, then put then in priority order, and cost. Bike to bike, rider to pillion, mobile phone, music etc etc.
First up I went for an autocom as the basis of my comms, but went for a hand held UHF interfaced to it. Did not use it much as it was a pain to hook up all the time as you had to take it off the bike and charge the battery, but when I did it worked fine. I would not have spent much more in the long run getting the bike powered UHF 5w UHF, as I use it far more now it is just wired in. Same with blutooth module on the autocomm..if the phone is on it pairs when I start the bike, so as I have the earplugs in anyway it all is usable, and the UHF is always there.
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well after much searching reviews and advice I have been on Ebay and bought:
SENA SMH10 BLUETOOTH DUAL -2 HEADSETS for about $318 Australian, link is below
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/330618869347?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_5367wt_1139 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/330618869347?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_5367wt_1139)
it seems to be very user freindly, meshs with mobiles and bluetooth devices easily, and does VOX so see how we go!
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Nice work Streak - I'll bet Teela is happy with that too as she now qualifies automatically for some PRADA shoes and a Louis Vitton Handbag!!! ;) ;D
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Nice work Streak - I'll bet Teela is happy with that too as she now qualifies automatically for some PRADA shoes and a Louis Vitton Handbag!!! ;) ;D
Yes I have had to go and hand out extra cash for my farkles, that's the deal, what I spend as extra's on the bike Teela gets to spend on herself
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I'm very interested in how this goes, Graham. I've been considering a decent comms system for a while.
I want to be able to talk to my wife and have the option of listening to music but also have the mobile phone cut in when it rings.
The one in your link can be charged via a mini-usb cable, so (I'm assuming) can be charged via a '12v plug to USB' adapter while your moving if really necessary.
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I'm very interested in how this goes, Graham. I've been considering a decent comms system for a while.
I want to be able to talk to my wife and have the option of listening to music but also have the mobile phone cut in when it rings.
The one in your link can be charged via a mini-usb cable, so (I'm assuming) can be charged via a '12v plug to USB' adapter while your moving if really necessary.
well this is what comes with
Items Included
Headset Main Unit
DC Power Charger
Cigarette Charger
Glued Surface Mount Adaptor
Velcro Pads
Speaker - Microphone Clamp Unit
USB Power Cable
3.5mm Stereo Audio Jack Cable
Spare Microphone spong
(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd499/ozstoc/SenaSMH10.jpg)
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Rodd, suggest you also check out the Camos BTS available from Dale Mclean Motorcycle Electronics. I have one of these and the sound quality in stereo is exceptional. You can pair 2 units to it if you like (Ipod & iPhone) it cuts the music and auto answers the phone, clarity is excellent. Can also be paired to a Garmin Zumo if you wish.
I'm very interested in how this goes, Graham. I've been considering a decent comms system for a while.
I want to be able to talk to my wife and have the option of listening to music but also have the mobile phone cut in when it rings.
The one in your link can be charged via a mini-usb cable, so (I'm assuming) can be charged via a '12v plug to USB' adapter while your moving if really necessary.
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Hi Graham, as discussed in a PM - that's what I've been looking at too. The problem with this type of gear is that it is so difficult to try before you buy.
So, .... If you feel like doing 3 consecutive Iron-Butts next week then you can pitch a tent in my back yard (only 1 night though!). That way I can try it out before I buy my early Christmas pressie. ;-)
Definitely post your experience here!
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Will do mate, i have just finished putting the Ram Mount on for my Phone http://ozstoc.org/index.php?topic=147.msg706#new (http://ozstoc.org/index.php?topic=147.msg706#new)
From what i am told they are great to use, but i will tell you in a week or so when they turn up!
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Watched a video where they trailed that headset setup. Sounds impressive. I've only found one place that comes close to the price you quoted, tho.
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Hey Graham, did you ever get any other info on that v10 from ThirdGear? They also have a v20 that includes FM radio.
Has anyone heard of ThirdGear before? Any recommendations?
I'm not sure what it's worth - but they do say they have a "30 day moneyback guarantee - no questions asked".
Rob.
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I seriously looked at them, but the Sena's Reviewed better, and seem to be a better built unit
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Hey Fellas.......just as a matter of interest the Camos BTS 200 (rider to pillion - 10 metres) will give up to 14 hours talk time and 180 hours stand by (powered up not in use) and the Camos BTS 300 (rider to rider - 500 metres) will give up to 8 hours talk time and 180 hours stand by. Dale McLean sells and recommends them. I'm sure the Sena is a good unit but I've read a review where they mentioned that the VOX is very slow to respond. In a test conducted the words spoken were "mary had a little lamb whose fleece was white as snow", the first word to be heard was "snow". Hopefully the problem has been corrected! I've taken numerous phone calls with my Camos 200 (auto answer) while riding and everything works as it should, if you're listening to music, it stops, and the call comes through, and after the call is finished the music comes back on again :thumb.................your hands don't leave the h'bars.
PS: I have also read some good reviews about the Sena! ;D
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I recently ordered one of these
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250802645816&ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:AU:1123
now just waiting for it to arrive
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That's the trouble with trying to decide on stuff like bluetooth headsets. Trying to compare the differences and what suits you best (for the money).
I like the review that said Sena designed their controls to be really easy to use and that the speakers were a decent size and had quite a good volume range.
The firmware can be updated as well. As problems are found with the Sena then they can update the firmware to correct it.
I just did a quick search on the Camos BTS 200 and this is the first write-up I came across:
http://www.k-bikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14989
I didn't look too far into the Thirdgear unit. I saw that it had a battery time of 6 hours which was half the Sena unit. It would be rare for me to want to sit on a bike for 6 hours but tho.
Sena review:
http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-intercoms/sena-smh10-intercom/
Scala review:
http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-intercoms/cardo-scala-rider-g4/review.htm
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Interesting write up on the Camos Rodd........so different to what I've found.
First up there is an on/off button. I never had a problem fitting the speakers over the top of the head under the padding in the helmet or fitting the mic. The wiring was plenty long enough. And the unit definately answers hands free.
As I mentioned Dale McLean from Dale McLean Motorcycle Electronics sells and recommends them, and Dale is very well respected within the industry. I doubt he would sell them if they were inferior in any respect.
There are just so many different kinds of these units now on the market and it's difficult to know which way to go...........some of them are really cheap, and whose to say that they're no good! It all comes down to personal choice I guess. I just know that I've found the Camos to be OK.
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A while ago I bought a wired helmet comms system cheap over eBay.. I should have known because once I got it I put it in a drawer and haven't even used it since. I couldn't be bothered plugging and unplugging the thing everytime I got on or off the bike. So I've wanted a decent bluetooth one since but have been sitting-on-the-fence being unable to decide. Many seemed way too expensive and I didn't want to pay that money and then have troubles with them.
Another Sena seller popped up on the Bay today.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/220866648306?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_4291wt_1396
$307.90 delivered! Time to bite the bullet!
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:thumb that's the worst thing with buying anything, you always find it cheaper.....
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I was just about to purchase from this guy:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/140612211869?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_2102wt_1163
$278 + $52 delivery (just under $330AU) but decided to have another look on eBay.
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That's a good price mate, I wouldn't think you'd buy cheaper than that!
A while ago I bought a wired helmet comms system cheap over eBay.. I should have known because once I got it I put it in a drawer and haven't even used it since. I couldn't be bothered plugging and unplugging the thing everytime I got on or off the bike. So I've wanted a decent bluetooth one since but have been sitting-on-the-fence being unable to decide. Many seemed way too expensive and I didn't want to pay that money and then have troubles with them.
Another Sena seller popped up on the Bay today.
[url]http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/220866648306?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_4291wt_1396[/url]
$307.90 delivered! Time to bite the bullet!
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My Sena SMH10 Turned up today:
(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd499/ozstoc/100_07651.jpg)
I unpacked it below, the only bogey I found was that there was no Aussie power plug:
(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd499/ozstoc/004.jpg)
but i fixed that as the iPhone charger is also compatible with it so all is good:
(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd499/ozstoc/005-1.jpg)
It all hooked up really easily as per the instructions, phone calls work great, music plays great, below is both units hooked up to iPhone's using the Nova Music application, streaming live music over the internet into our helmets.
(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd499/ozstoc/007.jpg)
so tomorrow is me putting the tank cover on, and setting up the charger to the iPhone on the bike
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Hey Streak - Excellent!
Sena have told me that the SMH10D-04B is the version with the Aussie plug. However, I can only find it for $399. As you've discovered, any USB charger will do so I don't think they'll sell many.
I'm very glad to hear all works good in the living room, now for a strong head-wind test!
I have a few questions for you:
- Does the snaplock of the electronic unit onto the helmet clamp seem positive? ie. a good wind won't find it blowing off?
- Can you get the Shoei TZX with clamp, but not the unit - into a panier? What is the helmet size?
I can't wait to get mine: my earbuds are a pain to keep in when I put the lid on.
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- Does the snaplock of the electronic unit onto the helmet clamp seem positive? ie. a good wind won't find it blowing off?
- Can you get the Shoei TZX with clamp, but not the unit - into a panier? What is the helmet size?
I can't wait to get mine: my earbuds are a pain to keep in when I put the lid on.
it mounts very well, i dont think it will go anywhere
my Helmet is an XL 61-62cm, and it fits nicely in my top box, but not so well in the pannier
(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd499/ozstoc/100_1730.jpg)
and for interests sake for charging the iPhone i bought a black cable to it does not stand out so much, and it gives plenty of length from the 12V port in the box.
(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd499/ozstoc/IphoneCharger.jpg)
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My Sena kit turned up this morning. I'm sure that the ad said that you would get a free adapter for the charger to use in Oz.. but you are meant to tell them when you order (I forgot to).
All charged and ready to fit.
Rodd
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I'll be interested in your comments once it's fitted and operational........hope all goes well! :thumbs
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My Sena kit turned up this morning. I'm sure that the ad said that you would get a free adapter for the charger to use in Oz.. but you are meant to tell them when you order (I forgot to).
All charged and ready to fit.
Rodd
I possibly in my perfectionism may have forgotten to also.....looking forward to hearing what you think of them
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I quickly set them up in some helmets so that I could try them out when I picked my son up from school. My sons helmet is just a cheap open faced helmet so I temporarily fitted one set to it. My own helmet is a Nolan flip faced helmet and it didn't take long to fit the unit to it. The open faced helmet picked up some wind noise as you'd expect but we could still hear each other ok. My son thought it was magic being able to talk to each other while we rode.
Just need to remove it from his helmet and install it into my wife's helmet (same as mine), and check to see if the phone connection works as it should.
Rodd
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install it into my wife's helmet
Dont forget to leave the mic disconnected..... :crackup :crackup
I'm waiting for my headset to turn up, maybe tonight :thumbs
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Hi Streak,
I am a new member from the ACT, in regards to your question about the Interphone Blue tooth. I have three units one on my helmet one on son's helmet (my Passenger) and one on the wife's helmet.
love them, I have my phone my ipod touch and other units connected to mine, the only problem I have is I need to physically switch between passenger & other rider (to many connections) I also can't shut them up. :rofl
oh for the peace and quite before Blue tooth. 8)
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oh for the peace and quite before Blue tooth. 8)
lol i did mine the smart way, synced with each others phones, but with the right button press i can turn Vox on and we can speak to each other :)
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Took my Sena SMH10 Bluetooth for its first proper test run today, spend about an hour on the bike at various speeds from 50km to 110km, and it worked seemlessly with my iPhone, i made phone calls (thanks Mick Mauldon), listened to music, and used the GPS app on my phone (that worked ok...think it is more user issue than gps issue at the moment).
all in all it is doing everything that it said it would, and it is simple and easy to use, the jog dial is a brilliant feature, turning the volume up and down, and i discovered my gloves are iPhone friendly so i was able to skip songs and the like very simply as i have it mounted on a ram mount.
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Well done mate.............the jog wheel seems like it would be a great feature. The Camos volume control is a little difficult to find with gloves on.........you do get used to where it is by feel, but I like the idea of the jog wheel.
Took my Sena SMH10 Bluetooth for its first proper test run today, spend about an hour on the bike at various speeds from 50km to 110km, and it worked seemlessly with my iPhone, i made phone calls (thanks Mick Mauldon), listened to music, and used the GPS app on my phone (that worked ok...think it is more user issue than gps issue at the moment).
all in all it is doing everything that it said it would, and it is simple and easy to use, the jog dial is a brilliant feature, turning the volume up and down, and i discovered my gloves are iPhone friendly so i was able to skip songs and the like very simply as i have it mounted on a ram mount.
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At the moment Aldi has a small bluetooth transmitter/receiver for sale for just under $30.
I have a $50-$60 Aldi GPS that doesn't have inbuilt bluetooth, so I bought one of those transmitter/receivers to try. It has an audio patch cable that has 3.5mm plugs each end, so I also had to buy a 3.5mm male to ?mm (smaller) adapter for the audio plug because the audio socket on the GPS has a smaller audio socket (2mm?).
My cheap Aldi GPS now connects to my Sena bluetooth headset so I can hear the voice instructions.
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Good one Rodd!
At the moment Aldi has a small bluetooth transmitter/receiver for sale for just under $30.
I have a $50-$60 Aldi GPS that doesn't have inbuilt bluetooth, so I bought one of those transmitter/receivers to try. It has an audio patch cable that has 3.5mm plugs each end, so I also had to buy a 3.5mm male to ?mm (smaller) adapter for the audio plug because the audio socket on the GPS has a smaller audio socket (2mm?).
My cheap Aldi GPS now connects to my Sena bluetooth headset so I can hear the voice instructions.
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well this is going to be a great trip to properly test out my Sena SMH10, so far from all my rides by myself it has worked flawlessly, simple communication, works with phone/music.
we have tested the VOX in the house with Teela Downs stairs and myself upstairs, and with units hooked up to seperate phones, playing music, simple tap of the jog button turns the VOX on and we can talk to each other, looking forward to seeing how it goes.
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well this is going to be a great trip to properly test out my Sena SMH10, so far from all my rides by myself it has worked flawlessly, simple communication, works with phone/music.
we have tested the VOX in the house with Teela Downs stairs and myself upstairs, and with units hooked up to seperate phones, playing music, simple tap of the jog button turns the VOX on and we can talk to each other, looking forward to seeing how it goes.
I'd say after about an hour at the most and you'll be looking for a way to turn it off without Teela Downs noticing |-i :crackup
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I just pulled the trigger on one of these.....
http://senaaustralia.com.au/cart/products-details.php?ProductID=5 (http://senaaustralia.com.au/cart/products-details.php?ProductID=5)
and the dual set of this....
http://senaaustralia.com.au/cart/products-details.php?ProductID=2 (http://senaaustralia.com.au/cart/products-details.php?ProductID=2)
This will facilitate uhf communications with no need for a 2nd set of speakers in the helmet, and no need to be tethered to ST through wires.
Will also offer mp3, phone and GPS solutions all at once. - Plus - with QUALITY sound. :runyay
Looks like I have an Autocom system and a Honda am/fm radio for sale now. :wink1
Cheers, Diesel
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Good stuff mate......looks like a nice bit of gear! :)
I just pulled the trigger on one of these.....
[url]http://senaaustralia.com.au/cart/products-details.php?ProductID=5[/url] ([url]http://senaaustralia.com.au/cart/products-details.php?ProductID=5[/url])
and the dual set of this....
[url]http://senaaustralia.com.au/cart/products-details.php?ProductID=2[/url] ([url]http://senaaustralia.com.au/cart/products-details.php?ProductID=2[/url])
This will facilitate uhf communications with no need for a 2nd set of speakers in the helmet, and no need to be tethered to ST through wires.
Will also offer mp3, phone and GPS solutions all at once. - Plus - with QUALITY sound. :runyay
Looks like I have an Autocom system and a Honda am/fm radio for sale now. :wink1
Cheers, Diesel
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i have the SR10 and have had problems but i think thats due to the sharktooth bluetooth devise (not impreesed with it) the sena seems to work ok just slight delay. as ive regestered with sena i received an update from them recently of the new SM10 stereo bluetooth. check it out before tou get the SR10
as for the autocom ive just put mine back in yesterday as i got the WIRE3A bluetooth devise that eliminates the use of wired headset as i use the "sharktooth". will update a report after ive trialed them
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i received an update from them recently of the new SM10 stereo bluetooth. check it out before tou get the SR10
Yeah Royce - all is good - the new STEREO SR10 does NOT have the mini DIN port to connect the uhf unit which was a strange omission. :o
Cheers, Diesel
PS - Sharks are sort of their own entity from what I've heard - and have to be gently caressed to speak to other BT devices.
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wel there you go i didnt pickup on that. so you use both i suppose. now "gently caress" if things keep going the way they are! will NOT be in my vocabulary :cuss
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The big thing I love about the SMH10, is not having to charge it often, best battery lifespan I have got is 12 hours, only charged it as I was not sure how long I had left and I had riding to do next day!
It works seamlessly between rider and pillion, phone, GPS, music, fantastic unit, I will never buy the cheap Bluetooth unit again!
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wish i had gone to sena as sharktooth or not cheap by any means, about the same as senna or bit more. the battery dosnt last as long as they told me " 10 hours ". the reson to choose sharktooth is its designed for shark helets and slim line design
i will be getting sena when $ allow
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The big thing I love about the SMH10, is not having to charge it often, best battery lifespan I have got is 12 hours, only charged it as I was not sure how long I had left and I had riding to do next day!
It works seamlessly between rider and pillion, phone, GPS, music, fantastic unit, I will never buy the cheap Bluetooth unit again!
My Sena SR10 Bluetooth Hub and SMH10 Bluetooth Headset intercoms arrived Friday, and I set them up and went for a test ride today (had brekky up the range at Maleny with the lovely Helen and hubby Beatup).
I am guilty (usually) of buying cheap crap - and paying the price, miles from anywhere, with equipment failures!
This time I went a top quality product and I can REALLY tell the difference - even in the installation - with the product's quality of build (read metal parts instead of plastic), and the way that the item just WORKS.
All was seamless and worked just like the brochure promised. I ALWAYS wear noise mitigating earplugs, but the Sena's volume goes EXTREMELY high and can easily be heard at 130 100km/h. The unit, as Streak says, seamlessly flicks between MP3 music, phone call, uhf CB, Remote PTT button and intercom to Mrs Diesel. Bluetooth works out to 900m LOS (Line of Sight)!!! :eek
All the product's mounting systems are top quality and robust in design - hell - even Steve the supplier was an absolute legend! - Sorry for sounding like an advert! :rofl
Very happy to answer any queries from Members regarding this system.
See (and hear) you out there soon villains.
Cheers, Diesel
EDIT: PS - you can charge it while in use on the go too!
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Hmmm and you can charge it on the go as well eh. Oh no, all that money for a bloody BlueTooth unit and its stilled joined to the bike by a cable :rofl
But mate isn't it great when you have things that work :thumbsup and work easily.
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Lol Terry you crack me up....
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On our recent FarRide to Nambucca Heads (1057km in a round-about sort of way), Streak and I paired our Sena SMH10 headsets so that we could talk to each other while on the move. (Bike to bike comms gives you around 900m max distance before degradation of quality of comms).
Initially, this was a 3 second job, and we intended to listen to music or truckies reports over the uhf, and only talk to each other now and then for ride strategies and tactics.
You see, to switch between my iPhone's phone calls or mp3 tunes to talk to Streak, I simply press the main dial twice, and am dialled in to tx/rx freely by VOX.
This was a much better situation than our first attempt at a FarRide, where one of us would:
a) madly gesture with a waving arm;
b) wait til we had pulled over for fuel to mention something; OR
c) make a phone call to each other whilst on the move.
We ended up yibbering swapping vital information for 95% of the trip and had an absolute ball doing so! :hatwave
The Senas performed flawlessly for many, many hours, and a recharge overnight had us good to go again.
Sometimes I like to ride alone, and I think Streak will agree... but this was a bloody fantastic way to while away the miles with a good mate, on good roads, on the BEST types of bike.
Cheers, Diesel
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You just need to get a UHF and talk to each other, or listen to your ithingies
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You just need to get a UHF and talk to each other, or listen to your ithingies
Yeah but this was better - NO PTT! just VOX! Could even answer phone with 1 button push - all hands free!