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Title: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Brookester on August 21, 2017, 03:47:51 PM
Trolling bikesales and came across this
https://www.bikesales.com.au/dealer/OAG-AD-14955865/2012-Honda-ST1300-ABS/?cr=0&psq=%28%28Service%3D%5BBikesales%5D%26%28Make%3D%5BHonda%5D%26Model%3D%5BST1300%20ABS%5D%29%29%26%28%28SiloType%3D%5BDealer%20used%20bikes%5D%7CSiloType%3D%5BDemo%20%26%20near%20new%20bikes%5D%29%7CSiloType%3D%5BPrivate%20used%20bikes%5D%29%29&pso=0&pss=Premium (https://www.bikesales.com.au/dealer/OAG-AD-14955865/2012-Honda-ST1300-ABS/?cr=0&psq=%28%28Service%3D%5BBikesales%5D%26%28Make%3D%5BHonda%5D%26Model%3D%5BST1300%20ABS%5D%29%29%26%28%28SiloType%3D%5BDealer%20used%20bikes%5D%7CSiloType%3D%5BDemo%20%26%20near%20new%20bikes%5D%29%7CSiloType%3D%5BPrivate%20used%20bikes%5D%29%29&pso=0&pss=Premium)
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Nigel on August 21, 2017, 03:52:37 PM
Nice.... :grin,,,now wheres my checkbook?.................................. :think1  :whit11-r
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Williamson on August 21, 2017, 06:33:39 PM
Nice.... :grin,,,now wheres my checkbook?.................................. :think1  :whit11-r

Too good for you Nigel.
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Brock on August 21, 2017, 06:40:10 PM
Hmm,

a 2012 ST1300 thats a 2014 St100 V$. Its low Ks, but its still a 5 year old bike (even if it was first registered in 2014)
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Nigel on August 21, 2017, 06:55:05 PM
Nice.... :grin,,,now wheres my checkbook?.................................. :think1  :whit11-r

Too good for you Nigel.

Probably right but does look fantastic in white.................. :wht11
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: ST001 on August 21, 2017, 07:51:00 PM
Nice.... :grin,,,now wheres my checkbook?.................................. :think1  :whit11-r

Too good for you Nigel.

Probably right but does look fantastic in white.................. :wht11
Only fridges and washing machines should ever be white...

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Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Brock on August 21, 2017, 09:59:15 PM
White STs are proven to be faster...
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Biggles on August 22, 2017, 08:50:17 AM
Oh my goodness!  How I'd love to snaffle that one and put it in the cupboard until I wear out Ruby2sday!
AND it's here in QLD!  I wouldn't have to go far to get it.
Yes Brock, it's a real pity that dealers don't take a bit of care with their advertising copy.  Some liberal approximations among the description.
"The very last of this iconic model "- um no.  That was the 2012 black version.
However, if it's still under warranty it must be an unreleased Police bike- it's got the switch block, so it's not like it's 5 years old.
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: StinkyPete on August 22, 2017, 08:58:06 AM
I must say that it's pretty tempting.    :think1
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Biggles on August 22, 2017, 11:26:58 AM
I must say that it's pretty tempting.    :think1

You could be a Copper again!    :grin

I'll even ride it to Adelaide for you!    ++
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: StinkyPete on August 22, 2017, 11:31:18 AM
I'll even ride it to Adelaide for you!    ++

I always reckoned that white is the next best colour to red.    Thanks for the offer, but I'd ride it home myself.    :grin 
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Biggles on August 22, 2017, 11:35:10 AM
I always reckoned that white is the next best colour to red.    Thanks for the offer, but I'd ride it home myself.    :grin 

I fully understand.  Just trying to be helpful (and to have an excuse for a decent ride)   :thumbs

White bikes of any brand cause instant recognition by drivers who are ever on the alert for highway patrol.
The trouble as any owner of a white bike has found, is drivers will jump on the brakes right in front of you the second they see you in their mirrors.  It seems everyone feels guilty, even when they're well under the speed limit.
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: CallMeSteve on September 16, 2017, 10:12:19 AM
Hello folks. Brand new member here.  Just joined ozstoc this week after purchasing a sleek white ST with 8k on the clock reg 073PF - yep the one advertised.
Sorry I haven't introduced myself properly, but I haven't had a chance to get a photo of myself with the bike.
The owners manual suggests that it was first sold in Jan 2017 and therefore it still has 18 months factory warranty on it.
It's a beautiful bike. I still need to seriously get used to it but it's very sweet.
Looking forward to having more to do with you folks.....
Steve.


Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Sicman on September 16, 2017, 10:22:05 AM
Welcome On In CallmeSteve  :clap
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: CallMeSteve on September 16, 2017, 10:28:58 AM
Cheers Tony.

You are obviously a friendly bunch around here. Before I bought the ST I was riding the blue 400-four to work, and it must have been Biggles on his red ST who nodded greetings to me even though I was on such an 'ordinary' machine. Nice to know ST owners aren't bike snobs lol.
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Nigel on September 16, 2017, 10:53:05 AM
Welcome aboard Steve, from way down south. I too have a white ST , somehow colours don't seem to cut the mustard.....................Hope to catch up. Nigel :wht11
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: johnnyYTED on September 16, 2017, 11:23:38 AM
 :dred11  :blk13
G'day CallmeSTeve, welcome on in, having the switch-blocks gives you many options for Farkles, nice   :wht13. enjoy, WOOLI is in a few weeks..
 ;-*
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Jdbiker on September 16, 2017, 11:29:10 AM
Welcome CallMeSteve from Melbourne Victoria  :hatwave
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Gadget on September 16, 2017, 02:24:56 PM
 Welcome CallmeSTeve.
Hope to catch up at an RTE sometime in the near future.

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Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Scarlett Thunderbolt on September 16, 2017, 04:10:44 PM
Hey Steve... welcome to OzSTOC from the tropical north... if you can find the time next year and would like to stretch your Steed's legs with some touring, then come and join your fellow OzSTOCers at next years NR2018, just up the road a bit, in Mackay.
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Mitch on September 16, 2017, 07:57:33 PM
Hi Steve and a Warm Welcome from the Wild West  :hatwave :runyay
                     :grin  :blk13  :grin
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Shiney on September 16, 2017, 08:14:16 PM
G'day CallMeSteve, welcome to the forum and congrats on the new ST :hatwave
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Assassin on September 16, 2017, 08:42:41 PM
Mines an '02 with the same mileage ;)


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Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Assassin on September 16, 2017, 08:43:14 PM
Mines an '02 with the same mileage ;)


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Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: CallMeSteve on September 18, 2017, 05:08:32 PM
Really?  How does that happen? That ST of yours hasn't seen nearly enough fun.
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Gerard & Sandra on September 19, 2017, 08:46:11 AM
Welcome CallmeSteve from Toowoomba Rgds GB
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Biggles on September 19, 2017, 09:35:02 AM
Cheers Tony.

You are obviously a friendly bunch around here. Before I bought the ST I was riding the blue 400-four to work, and it must have been Biggles on his red ST who nodded greetings to me even though I was on such an 'ordinary' machine. Nice to know ST owners aren't bike snobs lol.

Eatons Hill- my old suburb!  I'm over at Bridgeman Downs these days. 
I even nod at scooter riders, but yes, while I regard the ST as the pinnacle of motorcycle development, I am friendly to riders of all sorts of bikes.  I even nod at HD riders if they're too far away for me to recognise the brand.
Give me a PM for a chat.
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: CallMeSteve on September 19, 2017, 10:45:38 AM
Will do Mr. Biggles.

LOL - a comment like "the pinnacle of motorcycle development" would be a red rag to a bull in other forums but I doubt you will get any arguments here. I'm certainly very happy with mine, especially as it's likely one of the newest STs in existence :-)  The only immediate change I am considering is a CalSci screen and wings, and I also need to see if I can reduce the throttle snatch and/or learn how to live with it. It catches me out sometimes when cornering.
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: tj189 on September 19, 2017, 05:18:48 PM
welcome along CallMeSteve enjoy your time with the new toy and the forum  :beer
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Biggles on September 19, 2017, 08:36:35 PM
and I also need to see if I can reduce the throttle snatch and/or learn how to live with it. It catches me out sometimes when cornering.


I wonder if there's an App for that?
I don't have the problem, but I'm a very sedate rider who is ever-so gentle on the throttle.
Any ideas out there regarding this issue?
A quick search turned up these references:
http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=811.msg6492#msg6492 (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=811.msg6492#msg6492)
http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=3776.msg38520#msg38520 (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=3776.msg38520#msg38520)
http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=9906.msg117535#msg117535 (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=9906.msg117535#msg117535)

A search of our USA brethren might also turn up some ideas:
http://www.st-owners.com (http://www.st-owners.com)
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Williamson on September 19, 2017, 08:54:27 PM

and I also need to see if I can reduce the throttle snatch and/or learn how to live with it. It catches me out sometimes when cornering.

I recall a thread, something along the lines of ....... re-setting the ICU (or something like that) by disconnecting the battery overnight, reconnecting, starting the engine, letting it run on the auto-choke until the revs drop to normal idle, and then turning the engine off.

I tried this, smoothed out the throttle snatch for me.

Anyway, if I'm dreaming, someone will wake me up.

Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: West Aussie Glen on September 19, 2017, 11:30:36 PM
Welcome Steve.
Had almost forgotten, I  fitted one of these years ago:-

https://www.g2ergo.com/store/g2-street-tamer-throttle-tube/ (https://www.g2ergo.com/store/g2-street-tamer-throttle-tube/)

Certainly helped, specially 2up.

To keep your bike new you may also like to consider:-

http://www.bygdawg.com/bars.html (http://www.bygdawg.com/bars.html)

and this:-

http://www.st1300.us.com/showthread.php?t=739 (http://www.st1300.us.com/showthread.php?t=739)
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: CallMeSteve on September 25, 2017, 07:52:36 PM
I had a couple of little wins with the new Steed today.

First up I tried the trick of resetting the ECU by disconnecting the battery and then letting it idle etc. it actually did what was stated although I did need to do a lap of Clear Mountain just to rule out a placebo effect. Much smoother from takeoff and during cornering. I have also ordered on impulse a G2 throttle tamer, so that might help further.

While playing with the battery I noticed the seat was set on medium height, so being a rather short dude I dropped it down to low. Now I feel more like I’m sitting in the bike rather than on it.

As I slowly get the hang of the bike, which is much bigger than any of my previous, I’m really surprised by how nimble and sure-footed it is. I think we are going to be good friends :-). I still need to work on balance though - it shows most when I have Ruth on the back.
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Sicman on September 25, 2017, 07:55:42 PM
The seat is more comfortable for long distance with the front in the middle setting and the back in the low setting  :thumb   :think1 It also stops banging the nads on the tank if you hit the anchors a bit quick  ;-* :grin
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Williamson on September 25, 2017, 08:01:57 PM
.... First up I tried the trick of resetting the ECU by disconnecting the battery and then letting it idle etc. it actually did what was stated although I did need to do a lap of Clear Mountain just to rule out a placebo effect. Much smoother from takeoff and during cornering....

Better take the ST for another squirt tomorrow to be sure, to be sure .....

.... smoothed out the throttle snatch for me.

Anyway, if I'm dreaming, someone will wake me up.

I didn't think I was dreaming.

Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Williamson on September 25, 2017, 08:03:33 PM
The seat is more comfortable for long distance with the front in the middle setting and the back in the low setting  :thumb   :think1 It also stops banging the nads on the tank if you hit the anchors a bit quick  ;-* :grin

Thanks for the tip, might try it.
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Sicman on September 25, 2017, 08:12:56 PM

Thanks for the tip, might try it.
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Over the years we have met heaps of ST1300 owners who were ready to give the bike away because of the seat position  :o But once they use that tip to adjust the seat, they have gone on to love the bike  :thumbs
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Williamson on September 25, 2017, 08:42:34 PM
...... But once they use that tip to adjust the seat, they have gone on to love the bike  :thumbs


Oh, I already love the bike, better not make any changes, I'm afraid what I might do.
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: CallMeSteve on September 26, 2017, 04:00:50 PM
Is there any adjustment for the rear (pillion) seat?  A post somewhere suggested there was but I may have misunderstood because I don't see any.
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Williamson on September 26, 2017, 04:32:15 PM
Is there any adjustment for the rear (pillion) seat?  A post somewhere suggested there was but I may have misunderstood because I don't see any.

I'm not aware of any adjustment to the pillion seat, other than sending it out to be re-upholstered or replaced with a Russell Day Long, or another after market product.

Quite a few members, including me, have replaced their OEM seat with an RDL.  The difference is fantastic.  The extra bum and thigh support for rider and especially the pillion is well worth (IMHO) the not insignificant extra cost.  Here's a link to the RDL website, follow the pages to the ST1300 pics - https://day-long.com/gallery/honda/

The other nice feature with my RDL for rider, and especially the pillion, is the little turn-up at the front.  This reduces the likelihood of rider, and especially the pillion, from sliding forward under heavy braking.

The RDL turns a 500km per day bike into an 800km per day bike (for me).

 
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: CallMeSteve on September 26, 2017, 04:34:44 PM
Cheers Michael.  In that case I can stop looking for it  :grin
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: CallMeSteve on September 26, 2017, 06:57:20 PM
The seat is more comfortable for long distance with the front in the middle setting and the back in the low setting  :thumb   :think1 It also stops banging the nads on the tank if you hit the anchors a bit quick  ;-* :grin

My ST doesn’t seem to have a rear adjustment for the front seat. It has the three position adjuster at the front, right behind the tank, but there is no mention in the manual of a rear adjustment.
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Williamson on September 26, 2017, 07:37:28 PM
My ST doesn’t seem to have a rear adjustment for the front seat. It has the three position adjuster at the front, right behind the tank, but there is no mention in the manual of a rear adjustment.

If I turn my front seat upside down there is (what looks like) a white high-density plastic block with three slotted steps.  When mounting the seat right-way-up, I slip these slots snuggly over two inverted metal loops.

I suspect the base of your ST1300 seat will be these as mine.

I think what Sicman is suggesting is that you position the front adjuster at the middle setting, and then sit the rear plastic block on the lowest setting.

Mmmmm ...... I'm off to the garage to try that ...........

Edit:  Not easy to do, don't want to force things and break something, think I'll leave it alone.


Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Shillas on September 26, 2017, 08:21:12 PM
I'm an ST1100 owner,  but seem to remember STinky Pete suggesting a bit of force may be required to get the optimal position.
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Shiney on September 26, 2017, 08:22:03 PM
Here is the How To...

http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=11369.0 (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=11369.0)
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: CallMeSteve on September 26, 2017, 08:31:14 PM
Ah I see. Thank you !
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Shiney on September 26, 2017, 08:42:41 PM
No worries mate :thumbsup

There are a few things that may be of interest in the section...
"How To..." Instructions and Pics for Regular Maintenance Jobs specific to the ST1300..." (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?board=52.0) :grin

Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: CallMeSteve on October 03, 2017, 02:38:24 PM
Well the seat height mod was a win, thanks to the detailed How-to instructions, and last weekend the Steed got its first farkle. I installed a G2 throttle Tamer.  It does make a very significant difference and make the engine much more manageable at small throttle openings.

Of course things don't usually go as smoothly as we would like, and the 30-minute installation procedure turned into half a day for this little newbie.  There was not enough slack adjustment available in the cable at the grip end so I had to dive under the tank and pull out the air box to access the bottom-end adjuster. Like many before me, I found the screws holding the bottom of the airbox to the throttle bodies to be insanely tight so rather than strip them I popped over to see a clever neighbor who does all his maintenance on his K1000. He lent me some hammer-drivers, but also suggested that I give each screw a squirt of WD40 and leave them overnight.  The WD40 did the trick because sure enough, next morning the screws came straight out without even putting up a fight.

Then of course there were some other valuable lessons, like the one where I was putting the last screw back into the top cover of the airbox and dropped it so it fell right down into the throttle area lol.  Then there was the second lesson where I got the top cover back on successfully and put the tank back down and then saw the air filter still sitting on the ground.   Some guys are just not meant to be mechanics lol.
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Gadget on October 03, 2017, 02:57:52 PM
You're not a mechanic unless you've forgotten something once.

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Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Biggles on October 03, 2017, 05:54:22 PM
Of course things don't usually go as smoothly as we would like, and the 30-minute installation procedure turned into half a day for this little newbie...

Then of course there were some other valuable lessons, like the one where I was putting the last screw back into the top cover of the airbox and dropped it so it fell right down into the throttle area lol.  Then there was the second lesson where I got the top cover back on successfully and put the tank back down and then saw the air filter still sitting on the ground.   Some guys are just not meant to be mechanics lol.

That WD40 trick is a good one.  Another aspect regarding those screws is they are JIS heads (do a search on "JIS" in the forum for more info).
You sure learn things the hard way!  Taking the tank up and down and the airbox cover off can be a real pain, especially if you have bar risers.
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Gadget on October 03, 2017, 08:28:32 PM
Of course things don't usually go as smoothly as we would like, and the 30-minute installation procedure turned into half a day for this little newbie...

Then of course there were some other valuable lessons, like the one where I was putting the last screw back into the top cover of the airbox and dropped it so it fell right down into the throttle area lol.  Then there was the second lesson where I got the top cover back on successfully and put the tank back down and then saw the air filter still sitting on the ground.   Some guys are just not meant to be mechanics lol.

That WD40 trick is a good one.  Another aspect regarding those screws is they are JIS heads (do a search on "JIS" in the forum for more info).
You sure learn things the hard way!  Taking the tank up and down and the airbox cover off can be a real pain, especially if you have bar risers.
JIS = Japanese Industrial Standard

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Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: CallMeSteve on October 07, 2017, 06:15:26 PM
The nearly new STeed got a new screen this week. I ended up getting the medium from CalSci. Amazingly I managed to install it without breaking, dropping, forgetting or losing anything  :runyay

It makes a massive difference. With the screen right down at suburban speeds there is much less wind on the helmet than with the stock. The stock screen seemed to chuck all the wind straight at my visor. If I raise the screen just a bit but so that I am still looking over the top of it things start to go quiet. With the screen right up I can do 120k on the highway with visor up and it’s all very peaceful. The buffeting and back pressure are gonskies. Very happy.

To make the most of the freight cost I also ordered the under-mirror wings but I haven’t played with them yet. They need holes drilled in my prestine mirror housings so I will probably try them out with duct tape before I get the tools out.

Thanks for all the tips along the way everyone.

Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Shiney on October 07, 2017, 11:23:17 PM
Sounds awesome mate :thumbsup
Can you put up a picture?
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Wild Rose on October 08, 2017, 02:40:49 AM
Steve I have a large CalSci screen and love it
It came on my first ST1300
Was the first thing I swapped over
I have the under mirror wings but don't use them
They are a great screen  :hatwave
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: CallMeSteve on October 09, 2017, 11:39:56 AM
Here are some pics. First ones are fully down, the last ones are fully up.

Steve
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: Shiney on October 09, 2017, 02:35:31 PM
Looks like an awesome screen mate :thumbsup

Just for anyone that may be interested in a new screen where did you get it and how much are they?

Cheers
Shiney
Title: Re: Nearly New ST1300 anyone???
Post by: CallMeSteve on October 09, 2017, 02:43:22 PM
I got it direct from California Scientific. US$185 for the screen.  Shipping to Au was about US$70. ouch.

https://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/ST1300prod.html (https://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/ST1300prod.html)

I know there are several local aussie places that make custom screens, but as an engineer I enjoyed reading the technical pages on the calsci site and they managed to convince me that they know a lot about aerodynamics.