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Title: A BMW in StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: StinkyPete on April 28, 2018, 09:55:25 PM
My red ST1300 is no longer the only bike in my shed.   Last week I picked up a low mileage BMW R1200RT at a bargain price, and rode it home from Sydney.   It now it sits quietly beside it's older brother, and so far there have been no fights except for the one going on in my head about who is the favorite.  For the time being, I'll be riding and maintaining two bikes.

My decision to buy was a difficult one, based partly on the growing mileage on my ST upon which I feel so much at home.
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: alans1100 on April 28, 2018, 10:14:33 PM
Looks ok Pete,

Later model than the new red one I looked at back in 2006 before getting the ST
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Sicman on April 28, 2018, 10:41:31 PM
Very nice Pete  :clap Enjoy  ;-* Now Fish will be able to keep up with you  :grin
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Williamson on April 28, 2018, 10:49:18 PM
...... I picked up a low mileage BMW R1200RT at a bargain price, and rode it home from Sydney.....

Very nice, very nice indeed!!

.... My decision to buy was a difficult one, based partly on the growing mileage on my ST ......

I'll have that dilemma soon, my ST13 is about to crack 40,000km.
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Bodø Glimt on April 29, 2018, 05:30:29 AM
Which one will I see at Waikerie? (http://www.footballnews.com.au/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif)
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: StinkyPete on April 29, 2018, 06:51:22 AM
Which one will I see at Waikerie? ([url]http://www.footballnews.com.au/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif[/url])

Probably the Beermer, but I'll feel like I'm cheating on the ST by riding another.   :-[
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Shillas on April 29, 2018, 07:23:15 AM
Nice looking bike.

Suppose you'll be fitting yourself out in BMW gear now.   :OldMan :grin
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: richo on April 29, 2018, 07:43:39 AM
Very nice.   Looks like it will get the job done.   People will now "see" you when on the road as they will think you are a speedy. 
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: StinkyPete on April 29, 2018, 08:18:58 AM
People will now "see" you when on the road as they will think you are a speedy.
Yep.   Coming home from Sydney, and on a ride to Mannum with Chris on Thursday, I'd come up behind a car doing around 110km/h, and as soon as they spotted you, they'd slow to 100km/h.   At least the bike is seen by other road users, which is an advantage of the white bike, and one of the reasons I bought white.   The other BMW colours are all dull "Urban Camo".
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: ST2UP on April 29, 2018, 08:21:39 AM
Congrats Pete hard to go past the Bavarian  ;-*

This very situation has been played out for sometime now behind OzSToc keyboards everywhere....and it will continue thanks to Mr. Honda  :H

It still has me bewildered that Honda is only interested in supporting the crotch rocket or luxury touring market in Aust.


We too will be in this very boat in the future  :p
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: StinkyPete on April 29, 2018, 08:24:37 AM
Suppose you'll be fitting yourself out in BMW gear now.   :OldMan :grin

I hope not!  I've bought a Beemer, not turned into a w@#$%&.    :grin
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: richo on April 29, 2018, 08:37:47 AM
I am not wanting to be like a buzzard circling over your faithful ST.  But if you decide to pass her on to another rider and want a standard seat to put on her please let me know.  A seat swap with appropriate compensation could be organised.   
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: StinkyPete on April 29, 2018, 08:39:28 AM
There are very limited options left for decent and classic touring bikes.

Honda only has the Goldwing, but at $45k new, that not an option for mortals.
Kawasaki's GTR riding position is far too sporty for me but suits some people
Yamaha's FJR riding position is far too sporty but also suits some people
Triumph has dropped the very well appointed Trophy
Metric Cruisers & Harleys don't do it for me, but some models are capable bikes for the long roads
BMW seems to be a manufacturer that still thinks about riders who want classic tourers

I'm going away for a few days with Fish and another chap that I tour with, and I'll write a review of the R1200RT when I get home.
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: StinkyPete on April 29, 2018, 08:46:39 AM
I am not wanting to be like a buzzard circling over your faithful ST.  But if you decide to pass her on to another rider and want a standard seat to put on her please let me know.  A seat swap with appropriate compensation could be organised.

I'll keep your offer in the back of my mind, but have no plans yet.   I actually have an OEM seat on the way as I was going to get an RDL seat, but that plan is on hold
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: ppopeye on April 29, 2018, 12:16:41 PM
I suppose a man is entitled to change his mind. Looks great I will have to admit.
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Shiney on April 29, 2018, 01:55:32 PM
Looks like a good bike mate :thumbsup
I'm looking forward to reading your review on it after the trip :popcorn

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Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: STeveo on April 29, 2018, 06:05:52 PM
There are very limited options left for decent and classic touring bikes.

Honda only has the Goldwing, but at $45k new, that not an option for mortals.
Kawasaki's GTR riding position is far too sporty for me but suits some people
Yamaha's FJR riding position is far too sporty but also suits some people
Triumph has dropped the very well appointed Trophy
Metric Cruisers & Harleys don't do it for me, but some models are capable bikes for the long roads
BMW seems to be a manufacturer that still thinks about riders who want classic tourers

I'm going away for a few days with Fish and another chap that I tour with, and I'll write a review of the R1200RT when I get home.
I think you should add CF Moto to the list.
This is mine I bought to replace the burnt 1100.
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Bodø Glimt on April 29, 2018, 06:31:09 PM
I looked at a CF Moto before buying the kwaka.  I sat on it and had to lean somewhat forward to reach the handle bars and decided that is something I don't want to do for eight hours in a day.
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Skip on April 29, 2018, 07:30:27 PM

I think you should add CF Moto to the list.
This is mine I bought to replace the burnt 1100.
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Hey STeveo.
Would love to hear how you have found the CF Moto. How long have you had her? How many k's you've put on her? Any negatives so far?
I guess we will all be looking for alternatives sooner or later. Not sure I will be looking for a tourer for my next bike however I would love to hear your opinion on the baby Chinese ST.  :grin
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Skip on April 29, 2018, 07:48:28 PM
Nice bike BTW Pete.  :thumb  Just a little bit jealous.
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Shillas on April 29, 2018, 08:14:01 PM
I am not wanting to be like a buzzard circling over your faithful ST.  But if you decide to pass her on to another rider and want a standard seat to put on her please let me know.  A seat swap with appropriate compensation could be organised.

 :think1 Get in line there Richo, I didn't have the readies for STimpy's.
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Jdbiker on April 30, 2018, 09:11:26 AM
Congratulations STinkyPete...nice looking Bavarian  :clap
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: johnnyYTED on April 30, 2018, 11:44:37 AM
 :blk13 :dred11
nice Pete, a new cycle to ride thru the next cycle of life.. Enjoy it mate, Will I see it at Glendambo.?
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Brian on April 30, 2018, 06:20:28 PM
That’s one imposing looking Sports Tourer you’ve picked up Pete ...........I had an 1100rt years ago prior to buying my first ST13 and it was a really nice bike to ride, tour or scratching around the twisties putting many a sports rider to shame. Cheers Brian
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: StinkyPete on May 02, 2018, 05:16:53 PM
2016 BMW R1200RT LC
Pete's Review
BMW's R1200RT is one of their range of dedicated touring bikes.  I bought mine second hand from Sydney and have since put around 2,500 km on it.   My 2016 R1200RT is the current generation of the bike, with the liquid cooled horizontally opposed boxer engine.

Basic Specs
Engine      Horizontally Opposed 1170cc Twin, EFI
Power      92 kW
Torque      125 Nm
Fuel Capacity   25 lt, giving a range of around 550km
Tyre Size   Front: 120/70-ZR17    Rear: 180/55-ZR17
Weight      275 kg with a full load of fuel
Brakes      Brembo 4 piston front & two piston rear, with ABS
Gears      Six speed box, with quick-shifter

It comes with....
Cruise control
Heated grips and seats
Anti lock and combined brakes
Adjustable traction control
Electronic adjustable suspension & shock absorbers
Automatic hill starts
Alarm
Central Locking to panniers, gloveboxes and top box
Integrated Garmin GPS, controlled from the handlebar
Quick Shifter (clutchless gear changes)
Tyre Pressure Monitors
Bluetooth, Radio, MP3, iPhone connection
Adjustable height screen
All the system monitoring that you could possibly think of, including engine oil level, coolant temp, ambient temp, battery voltage, gear indicator, range to empty, current and average fuel consumption.

My Riding Impressions
This is a lot of bike in a relatively small package.   I've found the reasonably flat stock seat quite comfortable and even when set on the higher setting, and I can still get my feet flat on the ground.

The windscreen is reasonable, but I do get some buffeting around my neck which causes noise, and therefore I've ordered a Puig screen, which has a recurve at the top, much like the ST's BikeQuip screen.   See https://puig.tv/en/tuning-motos/windscreens-for-fairing-bikes/touring-screen?bike=11773 

The riding position is very much a sit up straight position and my feet seem a little further forward that on the ST, so I don't have as much bend in my knees.   It feels very similar to the ST.

The bike is significantly lighter than the ST and drops readily and quickly into corners, and is very stable through bumpy corners with no tendency to bump steer.

While she came with the small BMW top box,  I suspect that I'm going to need a larger one, as it's pretty dinky.   The large BMW top box is pretty well out of the question as it's around $1,600, so I'll be investigating after market if I can't get on with the existing unit.

Fuel consumption is excellent, and I don't know what it's running on, but I don't think it is the petrol I'm putting in the tank.   Since picking it up from Sydney, I've averaged just 4.5 l/100km, giving a seriously impressive range of around 550km.  The countdown to empty seems pretty accurate and quickly updates as speed and riding conditions change.

The on board GPS is a Garmin, and interfaces with the bikes controls, so zoom and some other functions can be controlled from the handlebar.  The bikes clock also takes it's data from the GPS, so when you go from one time-zone to another, the bikes clock changes automatically.

Normal gear changes are sweet and crisp, but it's taking me a while to get used to the six speed box and the revised shift points, as the engine response of the twin is quite different to the V4 of the ST.  The quick-shifter is pretty weird to get accustomed to.  The changes up from the low gears are harsh and I don't use them, but going up into 4,5 or 6 is smooooth and fast.   Down shifts with the quickshifter are smooooth and sweet but must be done when the throttle is closed.   

The audio system works via Bluetooth or through the on board speakers.  It has the ability to play MP3's from a USB stick, hard connection to an iPhone, or FM/AM radio.  Sound quality from the on-board speakers is excellent.

It is a lot of bike, with a lot of features and gadgetry, which could easily be a distraction until you settle into knowing the bike.

I love it......

Further Impressions after riding a 1200km in 24 hours FarRide
I've just got home after a FarRide to Glendambo SA, which for me was a 1200km ride from 0330hrs to 1930hrs, with a couple of long breaks, so here's some further comments based upon that experience.

Lights   The R1200RT has two 55watt H1 headlights, and these are actually pretty good, but not what I have become accustomed to with the light upgrades on my ST.   The lights gave a good spread of light on the sides of the road, and an acceptable throw down the road, such that I was quite comfortable sitting at 90km/h in the dark.  The only wildlife I spotted was a fox on a road kill, and I had bags of time to avoid it.  For night riders, lights are like drugs, and the more you have, you always want more.    I'll probably install some spotties.

Instruments   The instrument panel has nice big round analogue speedo and tacho, and the warning and other displays are bright LCD's that are highly visible and easy to read both at night and in full sun.  The GPS display dims automatically as it gets darker and this feature, while to can be overridden, works well.  However the GPS, even on full brightness, was hard to see in full sun when the sun was shining directly onto the display.  I suspect this would be an issue with any GPS.

Left Switch Block   The left side switch block has a lot of controls which are close together, including Hi/Lo beam, hazard button, DRL button, Menu selector for various controls, screen control, indicators and horn.   It's no trouble to operate in daylight, but at night and while wearing thick winter gloves, it was difficult to select and operate some of the controls, and I would often lower the screen at the same time as selecting a menu option.   No such problem with thinner mid-season gloves.   Hi/Low Beam switch is simple to operate and was not a problem to find and operate, even with thick gloves.

Screen   The OEM screen actually worked pretty well, and while a little noisier than I have become accustomed to, it was not too bad.   However, I am changing it.   I have not experienced how the OEM screen performs in rain

Seat and Bars   While initially the seat seems reasonable, I did get very butt-sore after sitting for 300km.   It could perhaps benefit from a sheepskin, beadrider, airhawk, or a treatment by MJM.  I found the position of the bars to be initially pretty comfortable for the first 1,000km, but by the time I got home, I has some pain in my neck and shoulders.   I experienced something similar with the ST, which was resolved by fitting risers, so I'll be chasing some risers to bring the bars back a little.

Fuel Range    At a constant 112km/h, and in no wind, the fuel range to empty for the 25 lt  tank was 450km.  At 100km/h it would not be difficult to achieve a range of 550km

For a bike, straight out of the box with no mods, the R1200RT performed very well as a touring bike.   In it's OEM configuration, it's very well suited for "normal" touring with 500km days and little country night running, there being no need to make any changes or additions.  FarRiders and IBA riders will always tweak there bike to improve it for their particular style of riding, and I'll be no different.  My first mod will be a different screen and I'll be investigating some risers.  Seat and Lighting will be done down the track.

2021 Update
I now have over 75,000km on the RT, and have done a few farkles.   See  https://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=4592.msg1239570#msg1239570
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Sicman on May 02, 2018, 05:40:24 PM
Great report Pete - Its probably more economical since its missing the weight of the rust they took out of you, and the missing two cylinders  ;-*
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Gadget on May 02, 2018, 07:24:16 PM
++ Sounds like a very nice bike.
Glad you're loving it.

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Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: richo on May 02, 2018, 07:37:09 PM
Sounds great and what a selection of gadgets.   I picked up a puncture in my new tyre and whilst getting it fixed was speaking to two BMW riders with similar bikes.  They love them.  One of them went on a trip to tassie with you a few years back. (David) He was surprised that you had made the move but knows you will love it
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: STeveo on May 02, 2018, 08:20:09 PM
Sounds like a good thing, enjoy it.
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: BigTed on May 02, 2018, 08:25:55 PM
Noice!
Guess what I'm testing next week? <snap>
Yours, and probably the K1600GTL. The K is a similar price to the new Goldwing, so it's just for comparison. The R does look nice, so I suspect it will become my screensaver for a few years.

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Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Shiney on May 03, 2018, 08:23:40 AM
Nice review mate, thanks for sharing :hatwave
It sounds like a great bike that has just about all the mods done already and more importantly is a bike that you are enjoying riding :runyay

Have Fun and keep us updated on your impressions as time goes on :thumbsup

Cheers
Shiney
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Biggles on May 03, 2018, 10:38:51 PM
As noted, I loved the bike I rented and can confirm all your observations.  I wonder if it would forgive 91 RON, as (like the ST13) it specifies 95 RON.  Interestingly, I was able to simply plug my Garmin 660 into the panel.  I believe BMW had Garmin customise the 660 for them.  It's well located in the middle and high.  A darn sight better than the one on the Wing I owned which was integrated with the ODO etc.
One of my chief reservations is the cost of dealing with gremlins in such a highly complex and integrated system.  A really good BMW RT specialist nearby would be a valuable asset.
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: StinkyPete on May 04, 2018, 07:21:43 AM
As noted, I loved the bike I rented and can confirm all your observations.  I wonder if it would forgive 91 RON, as (like the ST13) it specifies 95 RON.  Interestingly, I was able to simply plug my Garmin 660 into the panel.  I believe BMW had Garmin customise the 660 for them.  It's well located in the middle and high.  A darn sight better than the one on the Wing I owned which was integrated with the ODO etc.
One of my chief reservations is the cost of dealing with gremlins in such a highly complex and integrated system.  A really good BMW RT specialist nearby would be a valuable asset.

The compression ratio on the Beemer  is 12.5:1  whereas the ST1300 is 10.8:1.    I therefore suggest that  the Beemer will be less forgiving if using 91 RON fuel, and I'll be running it on 95, and 98 if I can't get 95.  With the impressive fuel economy, I'll cop the extra cost.   :thumbsup
In my review I did not mention the very strong engine braking, directly related to the high compression.   If I tap the brake to turn off the cruise control, I almost bang my head on the screen, so I've learned to pull on a little throttle and tap the rear brake.   This kind of problem/whinge is clearly a first world problem confined to Beemer riders.  :rofl
As to servicing,  MotoAdelaide, who have taken care of my ST are also Adelaide's BMW agent, and service all the police bikes.  They have always given me great service and I've always been confident with my bike in their care.  The one time they screwed up, they had a transporter collect my bike from home, and quickly rectified the issue at no charge.
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Totgas on May 04, 2018, 11:33:47 AM
Hi Stinky,
I have just joined the BMW RT club as well. Next week I'll pick up my 2018 Alpine White RT with all the bells and whistles from the local dealer as it arrived off the boat this Monday. I have to wait a week for the bike to be assembled, fluids, pre delivery checks and fitment of the GPS and topbox which needs to be sprayed as they only come in silver (apparently).

I'll will miss my FJR as it has been a great bike and perfectly designed for road marshalling.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/dKSOMf.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pmdKSOMfj)

The Cruise Control on the BMW is documented as being able to be used at 10kph so I'm hoping that is the case. Noticed your posts on the US BMW Forum as well. The owners manual states E10 or 91 RON fuel however I think I will continue to use the 95 although it is getting harder to find in QLD.

Keep in contact, it would be good to swap impressions.
Regards,
A.
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: StinkyPete on May 04, 2018, 12:06:11 PM
Totgas,  my manual says E10 or 95 RON fuel, so I'll be sticking to 95.  Enjoy your new RT, which I am sure you will find to be very different to ride to the FJR.    I had my topbox lid resprayed in "Alpine White III" by a local crash repairer for $140.

We can certainly liaise over questions and issues, as there is a lot to learn.  I'm off on the FarRide to Glendambo early tomorrow morning, which will be a good LD test for the OEM seat, lights and screen.   :thumb
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: BigTed on May 04, 2018, 01:25:57 PM
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Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Shillas on May 04, 2018, 01:35:05 PM
I'm sure the new white BMW will have a traffic calming effect.  :cop :law :grin
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: StinkyPete on May 04, 2018, 02:55:06 PM
I'm sure the new white BMW will have a traffic calming effect.  :cop :law :grin

Yesterday I had some woman waving and yelling at me out of her car window, wanting me to "pinch" someone who upset her with their driving.    :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Gadget on May 04, 2018, 03:27:58 PM
I'm sure the new white BMW will have a traffic calming effect.  :cop :law :grin

Yesterday I had some woman waving and yelling at me out of her car window, wanting me to "pinch" someone who upset her with their driving.    :rofl :rofl
:rofl

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Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Biggles on May 04, 2018, 05:31:30 PM
I'm sure the new white BMW will have a traffic calming effect.  :cop :law :grin

Yesterday I had some woman waving and yelling at me out of her car window, wanting me to "pinch" someone who upset her with their driving.    :rofl :rofl

Haven't you still got a badge, hat or something?     :law    :grin
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: ppopeye on May 05, 2018, 01:36:10 PM


Quote from: Sicman on May 02, 2018, 05:40:24 PM (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=12709.msg1236674#msg1236674)<blockquote>Great report Pete - Its probably more economical since its missing the weight of the rust they took out of you, and the missing two cylinders  ;-*
</blockquote><blockquote>And for litres of petrol. Nice ride. Is that an RT ST</blockquote>

Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: StinkyPete on May 06, 2018, 08:12:47 AM
I've added to my review, with further comments based upon my 1200km FarRide to Glendambo.   She's a keeper....  ++
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: West Aussie Glen on May 07, 2018, 12:24:28 AM
Pete on the wing I find the slightest of movement on the clutch handle cancels the cruise control better than using the brake as you don't  flash the brake light
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Gadget on May 07, 2018, 12:39:43 PM
Pete on the wing I find the slightest of movement on the clutch handle cancels the cruise control better than using the brake as you don't  flash the brake light
Yes the clutch cancelled the McCruise as well. Much better/safer than a brake dab.

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Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: alans1100 on May 07, 2018, 02:23:01 PM
I took these of Pete's bike at Glendambo - even removed the number plate detail. Ignore the time as I forgot to reset the camera clock after DST ended.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/865/27073673537_872b0be1d0_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HfpDUM)DSC_1631 (https://flic.kr/p/HfpDUM) by Alan (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152195423@N05/), on Flickr

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/907/41899372782_b985d8455c_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26QveM1)DSC 1631 plate brushout (https://flic.kr/p/26QveM1) by Alan (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152195423@N05/), on Flickr

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/871/41043966685_b1f3145d15_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25wV4m2)DSC_1628 (https://flic.kr/p/25wV4m2) by Alan (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152195423@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Biggles on May 07, 2018, 04:52:52 PM
Sweet.  And sparkling clean.     :thumbs
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: ppopeye on May 07, 2018, 05:39:38 PM
I agree. Very sweet.
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Old Steve on May 11, 2018, 02:13:44 PM
The owners manual states E10 or 91 RON fuel however I think I will continue to use the 95 although it is getting harder to find in QLD.

That'd be an American manual Totgas, they use a different petrol octane rating - as I keep telling Harley riders who say their manuals recommend 91 octane.

US octane rating is an average rating.  There are two octane ratings, MON (Motor octane number) and RON (Road octane number) and MON is usually about 10 numbers lower than RON, that's called the 'sensitivity'.  So US 91 octane is really 96 RON+86 MON/2 = 91 US octane.  Here in NZ and Australia we describe petrol by it's RON as there are government specifications for fuel quality which include a minimum MON specification, so there's 91, 95 and 98 (though I think 98 is just a marketing grade as there's no specification for 98 petrol, or at least not here in NZ).

I took a BMW R1200RT out a number of times when looking at an upgrade from the Suzuki M50, lovely bike, all those extras, the wife fell in love with the heated seat.  But I found it was very high in seat height, just like the ST1100, and I was uncomfortable with just having the balls of my feet on the ground so didn't buy it.  I think the R is more a Sports Tourer, equivalent to the ST, and the K is the tourer, equivalent to the Goldwing.

I kept the M50, I had it repaired after a taxi turned through traffic and took me out, and am now selling it as I have decided that, at my age, I heal so much slower so I've officially become an ex-motorcyclist.  But that R1200Rt was a nice piece of kit and I envy you Pete.
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Cerebral Knievel on May 12, 2018, 09:38:37 AM
That's a nice bit of gear indeed Pete. I have fond memories of my old bricK1100  :whistle
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: StinkyPete on May 14, 2018, 07:17:43 AM
Based on my 4,000 km I've done since I got it, my plan to make my new Beemer into an even better Long Distance ride include installing the expected quartet of farkles over the next few months

Seat by RDL  -   :butt
Screen by Puig - Similar shape to the ST BikeQuip, to reduce the "not too bad" turbulent noise   |-i
Risers by Ilium Works - Up and back about 35mm  :thumb
Coms by Starcom -   :phone
Spotties  Denali 2.0 D4's on Clearwater under mirror mounts  8)
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Wild Rose on May 14, 2018, 07:38:13 AM
Good read Pete
Sounds like you picked up a pretty good bike
Thanks  :like
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Skip on May 14, 2018, 10:10:25 AM
Based on my 4,000 km I've done since I got it, my plan to make my new Beemer into an even better Long Distance ride include installing the expected quartet of farkles over the next few months

Seat by RDL  -   :butt
Screen by Puig - Similar shape to the ST BikeQuip, to reduce the "not too bad" turbulent noise   |-i
Risers by Ilium Works - Up and back about 35mm  :thumb
Coms by Starcom -   :phone
Spotties by Dually - Sometime down the track   8)

So it's not only Mr Honda that can't make a comfortable OEM seat. That surprises me about the Bavarian product. 
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: StinkyPete on May 14, 2018, 11:08:29 AM
Based on my 4,000 km I've done since I got it, my plan to make my new Beemer into an even better Long Distance ride include installing the expected quartet of farkles over the next few months

Seat by RDL  -   :butt
Screen by Puig - Similar shape to the ST BikeQuip, to reduce the "not too bad" turbulent noise   |-i
Risers by Ilium Works - Up and back about 35mm  :thumb
Coms by Starcom -   :phone
Spotties by Dually - Sometime down the track   8)

So it's not only Mr Honda that can't make a comfortable OEM seat. That surprises me about the Bavarian product.

It wasn't too bad, and would suit many riders if the distances were confined to 500km per day, but on the second half of my 1200km FarRide I was getting pretty squirmy.   Posts on the US RT forum indicate that those with RDL seats fins them to be a massive improvement.  I was going to try a sheepskin cover or get the seat modified by MJM, but the "dearly beloved" reckons the best plan would be to go straight to the gold standard.

I find it odd that many riders make the Holy Trinity of changes to improve their bikes, namely Screen, Risers and Seat, so why on earth can't the manufacturers do a decent job of those things right from the start.
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Skip on May 14, 2018, 01:13:37 PM
Couldn't agree more with your last statement Pete. They should just source their seats from RDL.
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Shillas on May 14, 2018, 01:31:41 PM

I find it odd that many riders make the Holy Trinity of changes to improve their bikes, namely Screen, Risers and Seat, so why on earth can't the manufacturers do a decent job of those things right from the start.

Because there are so many riders who won't change a thing from the OEM and learn to live with it.

Least these bikes are rideable with OEM, unlike that american brand where a change of seat, pipes etc. is swapped prior to the first outing.
Title: Re: An addition to StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: alans1100 on May 14, 2018, 01:53:39 PM

I find it odd that many riders make the Holy Trinity of changes to improve their bikes, namely Screen, Risers and Seat, so why on earth can't the manufacturers do a decent job of those things right from the start.

Because there are so many riders who won't change a thing from the OEM and learn to live with it.
It wouldn't matter what they did as no two people would be the same so they have to compromise as best they can.


 
Title: Re: A BMW in StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Knave on May 14, 2018, 04:55:43 PM
The Beemer is one nice bike. I am sure that it will give you years of fun.  :thumbs
Title: Re: A BMW in StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Knave on May 17, 2018, 11:07:52 AM
Just on 91 RON for the Beemer. I had a R1200RT for a number of years and only put 91 RON into it once by mistake at Parkes. It went along ok in the higher revs but the first time that I stopped at traffic lights the pinging and roughness on idle sounded as though the motor was about to break. Since that day I always carried a bottle of octane booster. I used it a couple of times when 91 was only available and it worked a treat. No pinging or performance issues at all.   
Title: Re: A BMW in StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: StinkyPete on May 17, 2018, 11:29:03 AM
Just on 91 RON for the Beemer. I had a R1200RT for a number of years and only put 91 RON into it once by mistake at Parkes. It went along ok in the higher revs but the first time that I stopped at traffic lights the pinging and roughness on idle sounded as though the motor was about to break. Since that day I always carried a bottle of octane booster. I used it a couple of times when 91 was only available and it worked a treat. No pinging or performance issues at all.

Thanks for the tip, which might come in handy on the long hauls.   :thumb
Title: Re: A BMW in StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Totgas on May 21, 2018, 07:24:54 PM
Pete, if you are getting risers from OS let me know because I need a set also.
Thanks,
Adrian.
Title: Re: A BMW in StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Bodø Glimt on May 21, 2018, 07:26:59 PM
Riding behind you from Walkers Flat to Sedan on saturday I spent most of it thinking "you're right, that top box really is small".
Title: Re: A BMW in StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: StinkyPete on May 21, 2018, 07:48:35 PM
Pete, if you are getting risers from OS let me know because I need a set also.
Thanks,
Adrian.


I bought and have already fitted a set of Ilium Bar Backs (Risers) from Mototoys in Australia.   See http://mototoys.com.au/product/handle-bar-removal-tool-r1200rtw/ (http://mototoys.com.au/product/handle-bar-removal-tool-r1200rtw/)
The Ilium risers were the only risers that appeared to move the bars back as well as up, and as a bonus were the cheapest.
You'll need to hire the tool to remove your existing bar ends from their sockets, and the YouTube Video from Ilium shows very clearly how to remove the old and fit the new.
Here's the link to the YouTube video.     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9K0F3cAJ6Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9K0F3cAJ6Q)
Title: Re: A BMW in StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: StinkyPete on June 09, 2018, 04:02:02 PM
The Beemer is off the road for a while and stripped bare, as it's Farkling Time.   :thumb
Title: Re: A BMW in StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Jdbiker on June 09, 2018, 04:09:55 PM
Nice shed / workshop 👍👍🤓
Title: Re: A BMW in StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Bodø Glimt on June 09, 2018, 04:15:43 PM
I'll look forward to seeing the new farkles in Clare.
Title: Re: A BMW in StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Wild Rose on June 09, 2018, 04:31:09 PM
Pete it is going to be interesting to what you do to make it a better tourer  :popcorn :popcorn
Title: Re: A BMW in StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: StinkyPete on June 09, 2018, 04:36:47 PM
Pete it is going to be interesting to what you do to make it a better tourer  :popcorn :popcorn

Rider-Pillion Coms  (fitted today)
CB Radio wit PTT   (fitted today)
New Screen   (already fitted)
Risers   (already fitted)
Spotties  (mounted today but not yet wired)
RDL seat (later in the year)

I hope I can get it all back together......   :fp
Title: Re: A BMW in StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: StinkyPete on June 09, 2018, 04:42:38 PM
I'll look forward to seeing the new farkles in Clare.

I certainly hope she's done by then.    Routing the wires is a nightmare, because the designers have ensured that there is no spare space anywhere.   :fp
Title: Re: A BMW in StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: ppopeye on June 09, 2018, 04:53:21 PM


Quote from: StinkyPete on June 09, 2018, 04:02:02 PM (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=12709.msg1238882#msg1238882)<blockquote>The Beemer is off the road for a while and stripped bare, as it's Farkling Time.   :thumb




Sounds like fun. She does look very nekid.

Title: Re: A BMW in StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Biggles on June 09, 2018, 08:45:06 PM
The Beemer is off the road for a while and stripped bare, as it's Farkling Time.   :thumb

My!  You are the brave one, pulling the Beemer to bits!
At least you've still got the ST to go riding.  There's nothing quite like having a spare of everything!   ;-*
Title: Re: A BMW in StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: StinkyPete on June 13, 2018, 05:40:23 PM
The farkling is done by late this arvo, and all seems to be working OK.   Phew!! I was a bit worried by the CANbus electrical system on the bike, but the light set-up was supposed to be Plug-n-Play, and I also needed to trim one of the body panels where the under mirror mounts come through.

Denali 2.0 D4 Spotties are on board, automatically operate via the Beemer's switch gear, and pulse when the horn is blow.  8)
My Starcom1 Digital has been moved from the ST to the Beemer, and incorporates my CB radio as before.
12 Volt Plug in the top box, for charging phones, cameras, etc

Jobs still to be done include....
     Align the spotties
     Check the CB
     Check to bluetooth from the Beemer to the Starcom for music into our heads.

All in all, I'm pretty happy with the last few days work, which was right on the edge of my comfort zone.    :beer 
I have two  F@#$%&G  body panel screws left over, and can't work out where they are from.   :fp
Title: Re: A BMW in StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Jdbiker on June 13, 2018, 08:22:51 PM
Looking good Pete :like
Title: Re: A BMW in StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: StinkyPete on June 14, 2018, 09:00:45 AM
 :think1
I figured out two of the three left over bodywork retaining screws.   They were removed and replaced with a bolt that helps to hold the under mirror mounts in place.   :grin
One to go....   :well
Title: Re: A BMW in StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Biggles on June 14, 2018, 09:55:53 AM
Quote
All in all, I'm pretty happy with the last few days work, which was right on the edge of my comfort zone.

That's what I figured.  The Canbus system worries me when it comes to interfering with electrical add-ons.  It's one of the reasons I love the old technology in the ST.

Hopefully the checks all come up trumps.
You probably already know, but you can get a basic spot light alignment against the garage door, pointing them just to the right and left of the high beam.
Title: Re: A BMW in StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: StinkyPete on June 14, 2018, 10:12:14 AM
Guess what Biggles....  I did the alignment on the neighbor's big garage door last night, and took her for a spin through the hills to test the lights.  The are quite impressive. 8)

The Denali light system that I bought incorporates a CANsmart module that plugs into the bike's computer, with another lead that connects direct to the battery.   The lights connect directly into that CANsmart module and the whole setup interfaces directly with the bike's CANbus and existing handlebar controls.   A couple of other switched power accessories can also be plugged into the unit.   My local BMW dealer put me onto the Denali setup when I asked if he'd wire up some spotties for me.

My old hardwired Starcom1 Digital is installed and now talks to the Beemer's bluetooth, so we can get our music piped into our helmets, CB with PTT to my helmet, and Chris and I can chat again. :thumb

I'm a legend, but now need a break from the thinking and wondering if I'll ever get it back together and working.   :fp
Title: Re: A BMW in StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Shillas on June 14, 2018, 10:49:14 AM
And now to wait for a good day for you and Chris to get out to have a decent ride together to check it all out.  :hatwave
Title: Re: A BMW in StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Shiney on June 14, 2018, 08:27:23 PM
Awesome work mate :thumbsup
Title: Re: A BMW in StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: StinkyPete on October 15, 2018, 12:43:12 PM
I've recently got my hands on a FREE BMW 49lt top box.   The base had a crack that the previous owner repaired with fibreglass, and the lid is the wrong colour.  He got a new one on insurance.    I'm a bit wary of the fibreglass repair, and I've had a quote of $650 for painting of the top and bottom of the topbox.  :eek
I will live with the wrong colour for a while, as I test the strength and durability of the fibreglass repair.

A full list of my farkels and mods is here......   http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=4592.msg1239570#msg1239570 (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=4592.msg1239570#msg1239570)
Title: Re: A BMW in StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Shillas on October 15, 2018, 02:04:42 PM
Pete, I was very impressed with John g's plastic welding and paint job on my ST1100 mirror housing, which I picked up yesterday.  ++

 :think1  If you did nothing else as far as repairing the base, his paint job (in his booth) would probably be cheaper.
Title: Re: A BMW in StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: StinkyPete on October 15, 2018, 02:15:30 PM
Pete, I was very impressed with John g's plastic welding and paint job on my ST1100 mirror housing, which I picked up yesterday.  ++

 :think1  If you did nothing else as far as repairing the base, his paint job (in his booth) would probably be cheaper.

Thanks Shillas.   If the fireglass job does not adhere properly to the plastic base, my plan was to somehow remove it all, and have it plastic welded.  Johng's skill set was sitting in the back of my mind.    ++
Title: Re: A BMW in StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Williamson on October 15, 2018, 02:23:56 PM
.... had a quote of $650 for painting of the top and bottom of the topbox.  :eek

Initial quote to paint the red LH pannier (getting from STroppy) to match the missing black pannier was $500, a second quote was $300.  Perhaps I'll get what I pay for, but as the second quote is from a repairer that does quite a bit of work for Council (that I work for), I'm reasonably confident.

IMHO, $650 is a bit excessive, getting another quote night be prudent.
Title: Re: A BMW in StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Biggles on October 15, 2018, 04:43:30 PM
How did you get on with the key matching Pete?
Title: Re: A BMW in StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: StinkyPete on October 15, 2018, 05:38:49 PM
How did you get on with the key matching Pete?
I was hoping to remove the tumbler from my small top box and fit it to the "new" one.   It looks easy on Youtube  :fp  but it's not, so I currently have a different key for the big top box.  That's no big deal, as I needed a key to lock the smaller top box anyway, as it was not linked to the bike's central locking.
Title: Re: A BMW in StinkyPete's Shed
Post by: Biggles on October 16, 2018, 12:19:59 PM
That's the obvious benefit of forking out all the cash upfront when new for a topbox.  Its lock is integrated with the central locking.
For the ST's topbox keys I've always cut them down to the minimum practical and they're no great nuisance on the keyring.  With the location and nature of our ignition switch it's important to keep the keyring simple.  Not such a problem for you with "proximity ignition security".