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Title: Comms and cams
Post by: CallMeSteve on July 30, 2018, 08:21:45 AM
I figure it’s time I got myself a Bluetooth setup for conversing with Siri and Wifie. Id also like a helmet mounted camera. I’m interested to know what other members use / have found to work well (or not).  It would be neat to get a single device that provides both functions but that seems to be a stretch at present - sena lists the 10C on their site and it looks rather large. The new 10C EVO looks nice and compact but it doesn’t seem to be available yet.
Title: Re: Comms and cams
Post by: Joso on July 30, 2018, 09:27:31 AM
Steve I have sena 20s for coms works great has built in fm radio & they say good for 2 Kim very happy with mine
Title: Re: Comms and cams
Post by: Williamson on July 30, 2018, 11:48:16 AM
Steve I have sena 20s for coms works great has built in fm radio & they say good for 2 Kim very happy with mine

Sena 20S works well for me too.

A quick search on this forum alone will get you 20 plus results, and lots of advice, comments, suggestions, etc ..... 
Title: Re: Comms and cams
Post by: Squeakers (formally SlowRider) on July 31, 2018, 05:48:15 PM
I use a UClear Amp Pro as bluetooth comms. Love it. The system uses tiny solid state microphones hidden near my temples. Most people don't know I'm on the bike, even with the helmet face open. (No wind noise with SS mics)

It connects to almost every other brand for two-way comms. I've tried it once, it worked but I never did a range test.  Batteries last about twenty half hour rides.  It also gets loud enough to detach a retina, if needed.

Negatives are no inbuilt radio. No camera. Price wasn't very friendly.



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Title: Re: Comms and cams
Post by: Flubby - (Duanne} on July 31, 2018, 08:34:28 PM
I have the Nolan NCOM system. Great sound quality and very impressed.. I have yet o sync it to Sena but it can be done apparently.
Title: Re: Comms and cams
Post by: Shiney on July 31, 2018, 10:38:00 PM
I use the Sena 10c, it is a great unit, the communications are brilliant (as are all the Sena units) and it will go for days when used for this purposes.
It has a built in radio, connects flawlessly to my phone and to other headsets even if they are not from Sena.

The camera on it is awesome, the quality is brilliant and it records what is said with the video so you can add commentary along with the footage.
I have been using the Sena 10c for all my video ride reports since I got it and am very happy with it.

(Here is an example :thumb)

http://youtu.be/VqPK-fWNKhw (http://youtu.be/VqPK-fWNKhw)

Now the downside...
While the comms will last for days the video recording will only last for 2 hours!
After this it will continue to operate as a comms unit only and wont record video.
 However there is a way around this, the unit can be plugged into an external power source like a USB power outlet on the bike or external power bank/battery pack that can be carried in a jacket pocket.

The other option is to run two separate devices, a comms unit and a separate video recorder.
If going down this road any of the Sena comms units will serve you well and can be paired up to most bluetooth cameras to record commantary.

Cheers
Shiney
Title: Re: Comms and cams
Post by: CallMeSteve on August 01, 2018, 11:38:55 AM
Thanks Shiney.  The quality of your ride reports certainly speak to the quality of the video and the audio from the 10C.

Thing is I need to decide what I really want to do with the video. What I really had in mind was a permanently mounted device powered from the bike that runs as a dash-cam. I have found some units that will do this, but I'm not so sure about the weatherproofing side of things.
Title: Re: Comms and cams
Post by: Bodø on August 01, 2018, 11:52:40 AM
Thing is I need to decide what I really want to do with the video. What I really had in mind was a permanently mounted device powered from the bike that runs as a dash-cam. I have found some units that will do this, but I'm not so sure about the weatherproofing side of things.

I use a gopro for this.  Water proofing isn't an issue but a rain drop in the wrong place can spoil your view.  I use one on the back as well.  Rain usually isn't an issue one the back camera.
Title: Re: Comms and cams
Post by: CallMeSteve on August 01, 2018, 11:57:06 AM
Thanks Bodo.  Which model do you use? How do you attach it to the STeed?  I was thinking of the front fairing just under the mirrors using 3M tape, as I saw one of our own who had done that with apparent success.  And how do you power yours?  Does it hook into your helmet comms for voice-over?
Title: Re: Comms and cams
Post by: alans1100 on August 01, 2018, 12:01:25 PM
I use the Sena 10c, it is a great unit, the communications are brilliant (as are all the Sena units) and it will go for days when used for this purposes.
It has a built in radio, connects flawlessly to my phone and to other headsets even if they are not from Sena.

The camera on it is awesome, the quality is brilliant and it records what is said with the video so you can add commentary along with the footage.
I have been using the Sena 10c for all my video ride reports since I got it and am very happy with it.

(Here is an example :thumb)

[url]http://youtu.be/VqPK-fWNKhw[/url] ([url]http://youtu.be/VqPK-fWNKhw[/url])

Now the downside...
While the comms will last for days the video recording will only last for 2 hours!
After this it will continue to operate as a comms unit only and wont record video.
 However there is a way around this, the unit can be plugged into an external power source like a USB power outlet on the bike or external power bank/battery pack that can be carried in a jacket pocket.

The other option is to run two separate devices, a comms unit and a separate video recorder.
If going down this road any of the Sena comms units will serve you well and can be paired up to most bluetooth cameras to record commantary.

Cheers
Shiney
Interesting that I just see a blank space where the video is nor do I see a link. I copied the link which can be seen in the quote and now I can link to it.

https://youtu.be/VqPK-fWNKhw
Title: Re: Comms and cams
Post by: on August 01, 2018, 12:46:09 PM
Thanks Bodo.  Which model do you use? How do you attach it to the STeed?  I was thinking of the front fairing just under the mirrors using 3M tape, as I saw one of our own who had done that with apparent success.  And how do you power yours?  Does it hook into your helmet comms for voice-over?


I have a silver 3+ and a silver 4, but I think they are to model 6 now.  I don't have an ST, but I attach the front one to the back of the screen via their sticky mounts.  I had been hesitant to use a sticky mount for fear of it falling off but it has never happened.  I occasionally stick in on the handlebar wind protector.  It's rare for me to have both on at the same time but on this stretch of road I did because the view was awesome.  I did the same for my lap of Bathurst because it was Bathurst.

(http://www.imghostr.net/images/2018/08/01/2267f184e84aa7642fa6bb1333244ed6.jpg)

For the rear I drilled a hole in the topbox rack and screwed a mount connector directly into it.  The camera shown is a mobius but as it's not waterproof in wet weather I swap it for a gopro.

(http://www.imghostr.net/images/2018/08/01/6dac7412e6b3f7fe4202d29263e2735f.jpg)

Pros and cons of behind the screen v on the handlebar mount.  The screen can give glare depending on where the sun is in relation to where you're riding.  It does however collect the bugs before your camera does.  On the handlebar you get a direct hit.  The latter can block a whole shot whereas on the screen it just looks like a watermark.  On the back it's not an issue.

Powering it.  Over the years I have used a few options.  Thew gopro battery and backpac is good for short trips and the daily commute, but not sufficient for a day ride.

Then I invested in a brunton brick.  I don't know if they are available anymore but they are only good for the models up to 3.  Moderate rain behind the screen is okay but it's not waterpoof.  You can cable into it from your charger as your riding.  Its downside is it is top heavy so if you go over a big bump you have to straighten your camera.

Next was a digi refuel battery.  It works on both the 3 and 4 (not sure for later models) so already had a plus on the brunton brick.  It's waterproof so was a big bonus and an led on the back lets you know what power you have left on them.  It's flaw is it needs some kind of charge left on it to recharge.  If you leave it completely dead it won't recharge.  I found this out the hard way.

I bought this recharge cable unit from Canada earlier this year at it has been perfect.  I can either plug it into the charger socket on the bike or a powerbank.  On the powerbank it has run flawlessly with a 128GB card for eight hours and not stopped.  A change of sd card and it would have continued on the same powerbank but I haven't gone beyond that so I don't know exactly how long it would have run for but that was more than I need.  It's waterproof (well the casing is) but where you connect it may be another story.

(http://www.imghostr.net/images/2018/08/01/42bc4565bb03f6b36f32781b4e81c700.jpg)

I do have a mirophone adapter and a mike that I can put into my helmet but to be honest I have never used it.  I think I just don't like the sound of my own voice.
Title: Re: Comms and cams
Post by: alans1100 on August 01, 2018, 01:13:54 PM
Thanks Bodo.  Which model do you use? How do you attach it to the STeed?  I was thinking of the front fairing just under the mirrors using 3M tape, as I saw one of our own who had done that with apparent success.  And how do you power yours?  Does it hook into your helmet comms for voice-over?

This is where I placed a GoPro mount on my 1100. Most stable position I found. I do have a mount on top and in centre of the headlight as well but not tested it yet. Might do that later this afternoon. I have purchased an aftermarket case for it which came with the microphone and enables the cam to be powered via a USB cable into the 12 volt source on the shelf but so far have not used it.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1780/43775185041_4c302d595b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29GggpF)DSC_0005 (https://flic.kr/p/29GggpF) by Alan (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152195423@N05/), on Flickr

Now that I have a 1300 I need a find a suitable location for a camera mount on it. Just as well the mounting tape can be removed and leave no damage to the bike.