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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: CallMeSteve on May 17, 2024, 01:51:22 PM
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I just saw this article today. Great Wall Motors is apparrently about to get into the motorcycle market, and one of their offerings is taking aim at the GoldWing.
https://amcn.com.au/editorial/great-wall-confirms-flat-eight-tourer/ (https://amcn.com.au/editorial/great-wall-confirms-flat-eight-tourer/)
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That will be interesting to say the least, and worthwhile keep an eye on.
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It's not April 1 is it??? :grin
Looking at some other pics it would appear to be shaft driven too... :thumbs
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It's not April 1 is it??? :grin
It's may 17th, also known as Grunnlovsdagen.
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Here’s a bit more on it.
https://www.cycleworld.com/motorcycle-news/gwm-souo-flat-eight-tourer-revealed/ (https://www.cycleworld.com/motorcycle-news/gwm-souo-flat-eight-tourer-revealed/)
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To me it looks like something only a mother could love - but as they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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How polite of you. I would say that the front view is butt-ugly ! It certainly doesn’t have the sleekness of the ST1800.
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Oh, alright, I'll be honest - it's as ugly as a hat full of arrrsoles - happy? :grin
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Oh, alright, I'll be honest - it's as ugly as a hat full of arrrsoles - happy? :grin
When did you see that? Actually, I'd rather you not say.
Re. the bike, I reckon it looks okay.
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Oh, alright, I'll be honest - it's as ugly as a hat full of arrrsoles - happy? :grin
:grin
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I will reserve my judgement until I see it. If it has the same luggage capacity as a GL1500 it will be a good start.
I reckon it will sell like hot cakes in the US.
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When you look at the competition, most of them have been hit with the ugly stick!
Goldwing excepted of course... :popcorn
(https://i.ibb.co/zQR15y8/The-Competition.jpg)
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I reckon it looks so much better in red with plenty of chrome/alloy... :thumbs
(https://i.ibb.co/rwRgqnf/GWN-SOUO-RED.jpg)
Hopefully it might push Honda to finally update the electronics on the Goldwing which, apparently, have fallen well behind the opposition... :think1
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I reckon it looks so much better in red with plenty of chrome/alloy... :thumbs
You get this! Even the STs look best in Red!
As for wanting one- why go 8 cylinders when the Wing's flat 6 purred like a kitten and did the wheel stands on demand?
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One-upmanship I guess. I suppose the power delivery of an eight would be smoother (more continuous) - as if it needs to be any smoother than a Wing.
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As for wanting one- why go 8 cylinders when the Wing's flat 6 purred like a kitten and did the wheel stands on demand?
Because size is important, apparently... :popcorn
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Because size is important, apparently... :popcorn
Although it hasn't seemed to help the Triumph Rocket 111.
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All I know is I wouldn't say NO to one! :thumbs
Just the beast for moving my big carcass around... (https://i.ibb.co/gJs4rrC/Red-Rocket.png)
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Some more info on the Souo... :thumbs
Check out the sound! :clap
https://youtu.be/Cxm_spF9-pk?si=monENRb78Vb3XqhL
https://youtu.be/rNcq3yUWreE?si=4_1nco_2Wa46gL_X
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That does sound good, doesn't it? Nice growl.
Now to win Lotto...
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I see there was just one winner in Powerball and he/she was from South Oz....was it you, Dave, mate, buddy, pal, bestie??? :whistle :rofl
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It does sound great, but it doesn't look like it has much cornering ability.
Although for highway use it would be awesome.
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... it doesn't look like it has much cornering ability.
Many say the same about Goldwings, and we know how wrong that is.
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I see there was just one winner in Powerball and he/she was from South Oz....was it you, Dave, mate, buddy, pal, bestie??? :whistle :rofl
No such luck, Rusty.
I don't know that I would want one that big, my roof isn't big enough for all the vultures that would show up wanting a cut.
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I don't know that I would want one that big, my roof isn't big enough for all the vultures that would show up wanting a cut.
That's why you don't tell anyone about the win, or at least how big it was.
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At least you'd be able to afford "security" to beat them off with a stick! :spank
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Plenty of sticks around there too.
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Yet another YouTube video...https://youtu.be/qA6hqEAvMPo?si=r7Sixy3fpocVyhch
I was interested in the power & torque figures quoted but did wonder about their accuracy when the guy said the SOUO was a 2000cc inline 4! :rofl
GWM SOUO *216.9nm @4500rpm 180hp
vs
HONDA GOLDWING *169.4nm @5500rpm 125hp
* I converted the figures from ft lb to nm as the figures quoted meant nothing to me... :grin
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I was interested in the power & torque figures quoted but did wonder about their accuracy when the guy said the SOUO was a 2000cc inline 4! :rofl
Well it is, if you look at just one side of the bike. Maybe he didn't realise there's another bank of cylinders on the other side...
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Well it is, if you look at just one side of the bike. Maybe he didn't realise there's another bank of cylinders on the other side...
:rofl
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Some more info/pics of this beastie... :popcorn
https://www.bitauto.com/au/news/100197094489.html (https://www.bitauto.com/au/news/100197094489.html)
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Amusing to see the multiple references to it as a 'car' and a 'station wagon'.
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I wonder how they will price it if it comes to Aus. 288,800 RMB for the top model converts to $63k AUD per the exchange rate. I don't think that's going to work against a GoldWing.
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Amusing to see the multiple references to it as a 'car' and a 'station wagon'.
Yes, something got lost in the translation, me thinks... :rofl
I wonder how they will price it if it comes to Aus. 288,800 RMB for the top model converts to $63k AUD per the exchange rate. I don't think that's going to work against a GoldWing.
I doubt it very much too...
If it makes it to OZ, I reckon it would have to be somewhere around the Goldwing pricewise to even get a look in... :think1
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Just need to price it against EV options
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I don't think there are many EV options to compare it against... :grin
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I wonder how they will price it if it comes to Aus. 288,800 RMB for the top model converts to $63k AUD per the exchange rate. I don't think that's going to work against a GoldWing.
Actually it's 21,880 RMB, ie. is around AU$48K, and despite being way outta my range, there'll likely be the odd (in more ways than one) buyer around here and OS.
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I think there is probably a market for it in Australia.
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I wonder how they will price it if it comes to Aus. 288,800 RMB for the top model converts to $63k AUD per the exchange rate. I don't think that's going to work against a GoldWing.
Actually it's 21,880 RMB, ie. is around AU$48K, and despite being way outta my range, there'll likely be the odd (in more ways than one) buyer around here and OS.
218,800 is the bottom end model without the topbox and probably also missing some other fancy bits, so probably it would face off against the bagger version of the Wing. Either way, I reckon I’d take the Wing for proven reliability and for a front view that doesn’t scare kids. That radiator cowl is something else.
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The look of the Souos has grown on me, especially in white...
Oh, and I just love the sound of that engine! :thumbs
https://youtube.com/shorts/Cf0iyRDtxIA?si=_TfdeYkMU_pGG5qf
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Souo S2000 Shown at CES (Consumer Everything Show) in Las Vegas...
https://www.cycleworld.com/motorcycle-news/souo-s2000-shown-at-ces/ (https://www.cycleworld.com/motorcycle-news/souo-s2000-shown-at-ces/) :popcorn
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461kg curb weight, add rider and pillion - more than 600kg. Might as well buy a Mazda MX5 ($43K) - at least one can travel in comfort in winter and still have the wind in your face in summer.
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It's a monster, I'd like to see one in person...
I'll still stick with the Honda though :runyay
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I'll still stick with the Honda though :runyay
I probably would too, assuming I had the cash...
But, the Souo does makes the Wing look a bit behind the times, especially when it comes with blind spot monitoring, a 12.3-inch touchscreen and over-the-air updates plus it eats the Wing for breakfast when it comes to horsepower and torque...
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Here are a couple of YouTube videos on the beastie...
https://youtu.be/pRAvoiRnabY?si=hByYWFPWwbNVbDgM
https://youtu.be/la5MM6g7Sx0?si=yZ8e-hc7G5eR7pjT
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Well "GWM- Go With More"
makes better sense than
"BYD- Build Your Dream"! :grin
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I thought BYD was Burn Your Dollars... :whistle
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Yesterday I learned that Versys was short for Versatile System despite owning for a decade.
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2c worth.
GWM was "Great Wall Motors". That I think was the first time around.
BYD, as I understand it, is "Bring Your Dil#o". You can guess the rest.
Major pass on both, though.
Goodbye. :grin
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Major pass on both, though.
In the early days I can remember Dad and an uncle saying something similar about Jap Crap, and many of our generation saying something similar re. Korean cars.
Dad always bought Ford Zephys and Falcons and would probably turn in his grave everytime someone in the family bought a Japanese or Korean car. On the otherhand Uncle Jack bought one of the original 1964 Datsun Bluebirds for my aunty to zip and town, then a Gen 1 Honda Civic. Dad and Uncle Jack would argue about cars, they both won.
Never say never,
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In the early days I can remember Dad and an uncle saying something similar about Jap Crap, and many of our generation saying something similar re. Korean cars.
I've said similar for years when it comes to European and American built vehicles... >:()