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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: ruSTynutz on June 02, 2024, 09:42:30 PM
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Spotted this BMW with a hairy pillion last week... :thumbs
(https://i.ibb.co/WWYHKYS/Dog-on-a-Bike-x.jpg)
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I don't think tank training your dog is legal here any more. I know they have to wear seatbelts in cars these days...
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I don't think tank training your dog is legal here any more. I know they have to wear seatbelts in cars these days...
I remember a few of us spending a weekend at a Uni (so, must've been around '71 or '72) mate's Dad's sheep farm, out west of Ballarat. We spent some time riding around paddocks on some early Suzuki TS models. Sheep dogs were well trained and would sit on the back, excellent balance and awareness on the bikes, very hard to dislodge, until on John's (the Uni mate) command for a dog to jump off. This was often a sideway jump and enough to unbalance the bike and rider, result in a low speed off, and John and his Dad having a big laugh.
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I don't think tank training your dog is legal here any more. I know they have to wear seatbelts in cars these days...
Yeah, it's illegal Australia wide although apparently farmers are allowed under certain circumstances.
I remember "Tex" had to get special permission for "Bundy" to continue riding up front as part of their charity work...
(https://i.ibb.co/bbWTfVg/Tex-and-Bundy.jpg)
Tex & Bundy
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The dog in the photo appears to be in a basket (?) on the rear seat which I think is still legal (for a little while, until it joins every other bit of fun).
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Quite right, Bill, still legal...until some bureaucratic desk jockey, trying to justify his/her job, will also ban that. :thumbs
As far as I know, banning animals from riding on the tank was just another rule introduced to a problem that wasn't actually a problem...
Another one that was introduced around the same time I think, was the banning of children under the age of eight from riding pillion. :||||
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I suspect there are many more stupid people walking about these days and it became necessary to put a blanket ban on children under the age of 8 from riding pillion. Whilst not exactly the same, the death of Chloe Valentine in Adelaide sadly demonstrates why I think the way I do.
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You're right about stupid people, Mark...but, what was stupid about the 8 year old kid ban was the fact there were already rules in place that would stop kids, regardless of their age, from riding pillion if their feet couldn't reach the pillion foot pegs.
With things as they are now, you can have a 7 year old that can easily reach the pegs but is banned solely due to not being 8 years old... :||||
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I suspect there are many more stupid people walking about these days and it became necessary to put a blanket ban on children under the age of 8 from riding pillion. Whilst not exactly the same, the death of Chloe Valentine in Adelaide sadly demonstrates why I think the way I do.
I had to Google the name, very sad. I think an appropriate analogy in this case, even though little Chloe's life was more important that any furry friend - perhaps except for Chloe's mum and partner.
Yes, many, many more stupid people are alive today, or have survived a life altering debilitating injury, due to some of the many, many rules and regulations introduced by State, Territory and Federal governments over the past 50 plus years.
I've tried to put a number on the many, many previously, but the data is no longer available to me, however if there had not been any government intervention in the three E's (Education, Enforcement (rule & regs) and Engineering (vehicle, road design & build and technology), the Victorian road toll would now be likely to be in the orders of 2,000 to 3,000 per year (a very rudimentary extrapolation from the 1970 Victorian road toll of 1034), rather than the 200 to 300 per year for the last few years.
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I don't think anyone would argue that we don't need the three E's but sometimes the bureaucrats will introduce rules etc just for the sake of it, not due to there actually being a problem.
I've also seen plenty of clangers when it comes to road design that haven't made roads safer, in fact they have made roads more dangerous.
Also, we see road speed limits being reduced constantly for no other reason than it's their "go to" fix for everything...
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Also, we see road speed limits being reduced constantly for no other reason than it's their "go to" fix for everything...
I completely agree with the above Rusty. The Adelaide Hills Council (and don't get me on about bloody Councils - we have 67, yes 67 of them in SA when 7 would suffice) whose sole aim in life seems to be to reduce the speed limits down to a red flag carrying state - just to stop me enjoying my motorcycle (or so it would seem). Never have motor vehicles or motorcycles been safer, and what do they do - reduce the bloody speed limit and then pat each other on their virtue signalling backs. I probably should stop here and go and have a beer.
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Enjoy your beer, Mark! :thumbs
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With things as they are now, you can have a 7 year old that can easily reach the pegs but is banned solely due to not being 8 years old... :||||
While her short-arsed ten year old brother who can't reach the pegs is right to go, yeah?
Age- based restrictions are only good in 95% of cases, there is always that 5% where an exception should be made, but never is.
the Victorian road toll would now be likely to be in the orders of 2,000 to 3,000 per year (a very rudimentary extrapolation from the 1970 Victorian road toll of 1034), rather than the 200 to 300 per year for the last few years.
And they still complain that it is too high.
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While her short-arsed ten year old brother who can't reach the pegs is right to go, yeah?
No, legally they still need to be able to reach the pegs... :thumbs
I must have been a bad father as I used to pillion my daughter at a really young age. :-[
She loved it when I picked her up from primary school on the bike.
The worse part of having her ride pillion for any length of time though was that she would end up falling asleep.
Under braking I'd cop a whack in the back from her helmet and I'd then know she'd nodded off... >:()
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:bl11. :law. I might be able to do one better ,Rusty.i used to pick up my son from his grandmas on
My Suzuki GT550 after work sometimes.He was around four years of age.iI would place him in front of me
On the tank And travel from port Elliott to Middleton .We had no helmets (if you kept under 25km an hour that was
Legal) He had great pleasure in turning around and telling me what gear I was in because it had a gear selection
Indicator on the old girl .THEY WERE GREAT DAYS .everyone minding their own business and letting people live.
Today I would be arrested,on the front page news and a visit from DOCS. :angry-old-man-smiley-emoticon
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:bl11. :law. I might be able to do one better ,Rusty.i used to pick up my son from his grandmas on
My Suzuki GT550 after work sometimes.He was around four years of age.iI would place him in front of me
On the tank And travel from port Elliott to Middleton .We had no helmets (if you kept under 25km an hour that was
Legal) He had great pleasure in turning around and telling me what gear I was in because it had a gear selection
Indicator on the old girl .THEY WERE GREAT DAYS .everyone minding their own business and letting people live.
Today I would be arrested,on the front page news and a visit from DOCS. :angry-old-man-smiley-emoticon
As well as being sent to jail. :law :law
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Today I would be arrested,on the front page news and a visit from DOCS. :angry-old-man-smiley-emoticon
You're not wrong, John! :thumbs
I also used to take my daughter in the sidecar, back in the day when a helmet wasn't required.
I remember she won "youngest rallyist" at one rally we attended, she was just 20 months old! :beer
Like I said, I must have been a bad father... :grin
Oh, I came across her little cutoffs just recently... :whistle
(https://i.ibb.co/mDPN1yQ/CutOff.jpg)