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Title: Stringo's helibars...
Post by: Marcus on March 22, 2013, 09:40:13 AM
Ok guys, This will be a work in progress, as it's the first time doing anything like this so tips and suggestions are what I'm after.
Things to watch out for...

Or if I need to take it to a service center hahaha

Anyway After 2 years of you guys telling me to get some helibars, and seeing Shiney's in Middleton I ordered one.
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e276/marcusstringer/B27EF4C5-7763-48AE-8304-8C779A3ED170-1055-0000022AE5245C19_zps4e510486.jpg)

Which needs to go Here
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e276/marcusstringer/FFB37A4F-CE1F-4561-BE6C-447E762FCFB4-1055-0000022AE0DC656E_zps04e3f5f3.jpg)

So if anyone has done this, is it easy to do?
It looks like I have to pull apart all the plastic around the area first?

This thread will get updated as I progress
Title: Re: Stringo's helibars...
Post by: saaz on March 22, 2013, 11:47:41 AM
Shiney's thread with pictures on how to do it are spot on.  Some of the bolts may be tight so use good quality sockets and allen keys.  It may pay to spray something like Inox or WD40 on the bolts the night before.
Title: Re: Stringo's helibars...
Post by: Marcus on March 22, 2013, 12:02:12 PM
Nice I'd forgotten about his post...
Title: Re: Stringo's helibars...
Post by: Whizz on March 22, 2013, 01:09:50 PM
Marcus,
I did exactly what you are planning on doing...and I followed Shiney's instructions almost to the letter... and they worked just fine. There was no drama, it is a simple job, with only the making sure that the cables and pipes are good once the handlebars have moved bit adding any sort of wrinkle to the serene progress. Take your time and think it through, nothing about it is difficult, just might be a little time-consuming. And remember to cover the tank to stop any scratches!!

Good Luck...not that you'll need too much!
Title: Re: Stringo's helibars...
Post by: Marcus on March 22, 2013, 02:53:03 PM
Wait...how the ... am I suppose to get to the nut under the handle bars?

So Unless I'm wrong I have to somehow get to this nut
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e276/marcusstringer/28F8C3CA-F82A-42BA-BAA8-034FCCE53B3E-1055-00000232A7D92CDB_zpsc6e1ab79.jpg)


Which is all the way back there
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e276/marcusstringer/B04BCEBD-A49A-4926-BFCA-A41EDBB8A605-1055-000002329F4522DD_zps9a49319c.jpg)


Do I have to pull the sides of the bike?
Title: Re: Stringo's helibars...
Post by: saaz on March 22, 2013, 03:10:09 PM
Remove that wire bracket.  A short spanner does the trick, but it is a tight fit.  I would have tried a long extension with a socket, but I was not at my place at the time.
Title: Re: Stringo's helibars...
Post by: Marcus on March 22, 2013, 03:11:46 PM
sigh... goes back out to the shed and tries again...
Title: Re: Stringo's helibars...
Post by: Marcus on March 22, 2013, 03:53:33 PM
Great, this will turn into a weekend long task... as I've already dropped a bit down into the bike which hasn't come out the bottom. hahahaha
Title: Re: Stringo's helibars...
Post by: saaz on March 22, 2013, 03:58:52 PM
Two people made it a bit easier to manage holding spanners, getting the bolts undone, holding the nuts in place while doing up the bolts etc.
Title: Re: Stringo's helibars...
Post by: Marcus on March 23, 2013, 02:02:52 PM
So before
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e276/marcusstringer/F10E4F14-518F-4997-85C9-84C79D78B3DA-1055-00000232AF667C60_zpsd9be7437.jpg)

After
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e276/marcusstringer/2FCFE56A-BC3D-4CDF-9BF7-AC8744050A44-1640-0000030FC9E8FA9B_zps86a23474.jpg)

The install was VERY easy to do. You do need another set of hands though...
For some strange reason the nuts were really tight. :p
Title: Re: Stringo's helibars...
Post by: Whizz on March 23, 2013, 03:10:06 PM
Marcus, mate, nuts are not too much use if they are LOSE!!
Title: Re: Stringo's helibars...
Post by: Shiney on March 26, 2013, 08:37:09 PM
Awesome work Marcus :thumbs
I'm sure you'll love them :grin
Title: Re: Stringo's helibars...
Post by: Wayne'o on April 03, 2013, 11:31:36 AM
Hi guys. New to the forum and interested in this modification . Are there any issues with cable lengths at all or is it basically just a fit the new plate and enjoy?

Cheers, Wayne
Title: Re: Stringo's helibars...
Post by: Sicman on April 03, 2013, 11:55:04 AM
I used a MCL ( motor cycle larry) riser for the job. It comes with powerlet and ramball. Just google motorcycle Larry.com.  It came with good instructions. There was enough play in the cables and pipes to fit without having to extend them.
 Cheers
  :slvr13
Title: Re: Stringo's helibars...
Post by: Marcus on April 03, 2013, 12:03:15 PM
Hi guys. New to the forum and interested in this modification . Are there any issues with cable lengths at all or is it basically just a fit the new plate and enjoy?

Cheers, Wayne

Yes basically undo the old and replace with the new... instructions say to disconnect brake line and bleed them etc etc... but you don't need to disconnect anything... so ignore that. It all fits
Title: Re: Stringo's helibars...
Post by: Marcus on April 06, 2013, 05:43:03 PM
Holy Smokes.
First ride with the raisers on and it made my ride 100 million times better. I can't understand why I waiting so long, Best money spent on the bike so far
Title: Re: Stringo's helibars...
Post by: ST2UP on April 06, 2013, 06:44:44 PM
No argument from me, 100 million sounds about right.

Cheers
Title: Re: Stringo's helibars...
Post by: Sicman on April 06, 2013, 09:27:18 PM
That's great Marcus. With the damage done to my hand years ago I had been getting a numb right hand after about 20kms. The riser relieved the hand numbness completely allowing me to keep on riding :clap
 :slvr13
Title: Re: Stringo's helibars...
Post by: atoyot on April 06, 2013, 11:05:18 PM
Installed my MCL Gen III risers this afternoon, no problems and only took an hour and a half. Looking forward to going for a short ride tomorrow to see how they are. My expectations are about 100 millions times better after reading others experiences now!
Title: Re: Stringo's helibars...
Post by: Sabie on April 07, 2013, 02:04:07 AM
When I put my gen III riser on I also put these on over my hand grips. Highly recommended, made a world of difference.

http://www.motorcyclelarry.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=118&products_id=332 (http://www.motorcyclelarry.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=118&products_id=332)
Title: Re: Stringo's helibars...
Post by: atoyot on April 07, 2013, 10:33:00 AM
I've got a set of them too, but I havn't installed them yet as I've got a few other options to look at with grips first. Currently, I've got some BMW tapered grips, which are great, but I've got some Oxford heated grips to install as well, so I think I'll put those on next, and see how they go. BMW make heated tapered grips, but they're way too expensive for me.
Title: Re: Stringo's helibars...
Post by: Wayne'o on April 07, 2013, 11:26:52 AM
Oh dear!!!

I was attempting to fit my new Helibars today and somehow managed to snap the long black bolt (1 of 2) that secures the new
risers to the head frame.

The instructions said to torque it at 14ft.lbs and my Kingchrome torque wrench (set at 14 ft.lbs) snapped it before reaching that point.

So, it's off to the Honda dealer tomorrow and order a new part.

The nut was not misthreaded onto the bolt and I have no idea why it snapped.

I think I will just use my judgement when I torque up the next one.

Was hoping to try it out this arvo but, hey, everything happens for a reason they say.

cheers,
Wayne
Title: Re: Stringo's helibars...
Post by: Marcus on April 07, 2013, 01:32:02 PM
Oh man that sucks. I just tightened mine up using my Marcus torque (the gun show).
Title: Re: Stringo's helibars...
Post by: atoyot on April 07, 2013, 04:42:05 PM
Oh dear!!!

I was attempting to fit my new Helibars today and somehow managed to snap the long black bolt (1 of 2) that secures the new
risers to the head frame.

The instructions said to torque it at 14ft.lbs and my Kingchrome torque wrench (set at 14 ft.lbs) snapped it before reaching that point.

So, it's off to the Honda dealer tomorrow and order a new part.

The nut was not misthreaded onto the bolt and I have no idea why it snapped.

I think I will just use my judgement when I torque up the next one.

Was hoping to try it out this arvo but, hey, everything happens for a reason they say.

cheers,
Wayne

Somethings not right there. Mine didn't feel overly tight at 14 ft.lbs, in fact I nipped it up jst that little bit more with my smaller torque wrench. The threads are clean on the top triple clamp? I did notice one of my bolts had a bit of white alloy "corrosion", so I soaked them in lanotec, so that helps. Hope you didn't have trouble getting the threaded part of the hex-bolt out.
Title: Re: Stringo's helibars...
Post by: Wayne'o on April 07, 2013, 09:44:41 PM
Not sure myself Andrew. Having owned and worked on my own heavy trucks for years, I have seen more than my fair share of broken high tensile bolts. This bolt, when it snapped, showed only a 'shiney' outer rim. The main centre of the bolt appeared black and chalky.

This bike is an '03 model, with presumably the original bolts, and I am wondering if there has ever been an issue with the integrity of these bolts in the early years. The plate that the bolt was fastening was still loose when the bolt snapped. It was just like the bolt itself fell apart.

I will be replacing both of these bolts asap. Might get someone to check over my torque wrench at the same time.

cheers for now,
Wayne
Title: Re: Stringo's helibars...
Post by: atoyot on April 08, 2013, 04:39:00 PM
They may have previously been overtightened and weakened, but now that one's broken, you'll know that the new ones shouldn't fail. Mine's and '03 as well, but I suppose for peace of mind, it's probably not a bad idea for anyone concerned to re-torque these bolts up.
Title: Re: Stringo's helibars...
Post by: Wayne'o on April 08, 2013, 04:48:32 PM
Ordered the new bolts today and dealer said at least a couple of weeks wait as they have to come from Japan.

He said they have never sold any in Australia before.

Must have killed a chinaman somewhere along the line me thinks.

.....................................................

Wayne
Title: Re: Stringo's helibars...
Post by: Marcus on April 08, 2013, 05:10:55 PM
Day 26 Things aren't going well...
Title: Re: Stringo's helibars...
Post by: Wayne'o on April 08, 2013, 05:54:33 PM
Definitely a labour of love this one.

.....................................................

Wayne