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Title: The End
Post by: rendog on April 18, 2013, 06:26:54 PM
Just got home from the Ulysses AGM & whilst I was there, proudly wearing the OzSTOC shirt ofcourse, when I was approached by the Manager from Honda.
"Shame about the ST", he says, "All your mates are gunna be upset"
"What's that", I ask?
"Honda Australia will no longer be importing the ST1300 and we've been tasked to clear all of the remaining units at bargain prices".
"Tell your mates we do them at $16,990 ride away", he continues. (See the Facebook page)
"Hang on mate, what's the replacement", I query
"The VFR1200 of course"  :fp
"Oh for f$*^s sake", was my retort.
So to cheer myself up I took the F6B and the Goldwing Luxury for back to back test rides.
I really wanted to like the F6B and it is easier to ride than an ST (both of them were actually), but the seating position and suspension are shite.
Anyway - here's to our bikes  :beer
May they increase in value after the sale ends :thumbsup

P.S. I saw bikebear riding a very uncomfortable VT1300CX
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Abe on April 18, 2013, 06:30:57 PM
Thanks for the heads up.

Right:- look at bank balance and see how many 1100 can I buy for parts (only needed in 2020+++

Cheers
Dave
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Streak on April 18, 2013, 06:31:46 PM
Ah well, we will have to continue to build the club and show Honda that there is one awesome bunch of people who love what we have now, not a replacement that I would give my daughter  :thumb
Title: Re: The End
Post by: rendog on April 18, 2013, 06:36:21 PM
Too right Streak.
Continuation of this forum will provide a vaulable support network.
Props to you and Diesel  :clap
Title: Re: The End
Post by: BigTed on April 18, 2013, 06:38:47 PM
"Honda Australia will no longer be importing the ST1300 and we've been tasked to clear all of the remaining units at bargain prices".
Hmmmm, perhaps OzSToc can get an importer's licences?
Title: Re: The End
Post by: StinkyPete on April 18, 2013, 07:04:09 PM
Ah Well.   I think that we all expected that this was the fate of the ST1300, and we have now had it confirmed.   I must say that it is unfortunate that Honda has not seen fit to replace the ST with a similar class bike.  It how has nothing to compete against other manufacturers who are producing some great bikes in the mid to large tourer market, and it's own flagship, the Goldwing, now looks more like a cruiser.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Biggles on April 18, 2013, 07:56:50 PM
That's a real shame, Rendog!  I looked at their range today, then went and threw a leg over the Triumph Sprint.  It has everything the ST1300 should.  I couldn't get excited about the F6B.  It's very chunky from the back, and there's no provision for a topbox.  The price is still too close to a real Wing with all the fruit, if one wants to go that route.
I'd say Honda has 2 years to replace the ST13 or lose their Sports Touring fan base, because we'll all have to move on at some stage just out of sheer envy for what the new bikes have that our 2002 technology bikes lack.  They'll always be around, only because they're bullet proof.  Just like BMW R60 and 75s are still ridden by diehards who have been afflicted by some sort of obsession.
 
Title: Re: The End
Post by: alans1100 on April 18, 2013, 08:12:44 PM
So far nothing mentioned on Honda Australia facebook page.

ST1300 is still priced at $26,490 ride-away at Bills Motorcycles in Adelaide

Nothing under the news section at  Honda Australia website either

2010 and 2012 plated models are available in the states. http://powersports.honda.com/2012/st1300.aspx (http://powersports.honda.com/2012/st1300.aspx)

If Honda Australia is no longer importing the 1300 then that might open up the door to import your own.

 
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Streak on April 18, 2013, 08:25:26 PM
still ridden by diehards who have been afflicted by some sort of obsession.

For some reason that sums us all up nicely.....
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Biggles on April 18, 2013, 08:29:22 PM
still ridden by diehards who have been afflicted by some sort of obsession.

For some reason that sums us all up nicely.....

Nah.  Obsessiveness implies irrationality.  We're perfectly rational, logical and in some cases, good looking.    8)
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Streak on April 18, 2013, 08:44:35 PM
So far nothing mentioned on Honda Australia facebook page.

ST1300 is still priced at $26,490 ride-away at Bills Motorcycles in Adelaide

Nothing under the news section at  Honda Australia website either

2010 and 2012 plated models are available in the states. [url]http://powersports.honda.com/2012/st1300.aspx[/url] ([url]http://powersports.honda.com/2012/st1300.aspx[/url])

If Honda Australia is no longer importing the 1300 then that might open up the door to import your own.


We have had run out deals offered to us by Western Honda in Penrith, Toowoomba Honda, and Rising Sun Honda, so we new something was up.....
Title: Re: The End
Post by: alans1100 on April 18, 2013, 09:44:16 PM
So far nothing mentioned on Honda Australia facebook page.

ST1300 is still priced at $26,490 ride-away at Bills Motorcycles in Adelaide

Nothing under the news section at  Honda Australia website either

2010 and 2012 plated models are available in the states. [url]http://powersports.honda.com/2012/st1300.aspx[/url] ([url]http://powersports.honda.com/2012/st1300.aspx[/url])

If Honda Australia is no longer importing the 1300 then that might open up the door to import your own.


We have had run out deals offered to us by Western Honda in Penrith, Toowoomba Honda, and Rising Sun Honda, so we new something was up.....


Just checked Honda World.....Southern Suburbs of Adelaide.......$16990 ride away..........
They even have the wing down to $34990 ride away.
VFR1200F for $16790

About half the Honda range is on Sale

http://www.motoadelaide.com.au/honda/new-bike-specials (http://www.motoadelaide.com.au/honda/new-bike-specials)



Title: Re: The End
Post by: Biggles on April 18, 2013, 10:14:54 PM
Here's the Sprint at the Usillies AGM

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e136/Pixtor/Sprint1_zps18df7707.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Pixtor/media/Sprint1_zps18df7707.jpg.html)

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e136/Pixtor/Sprint2_zps8441e074.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Pixtor/media/Sprint2_zps8441e074.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Biggles on April 18, 2013, 10:17:02 PM
The 'Wing is basically the same.

But here's the F6B.

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e136/Pixtor/HondaF6B1_zps284c9b29.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Pixtor/media/HondaF6B1_zps284c9b29.jpg.html)


(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e136/Pixtor/HondaF6B2_zpsb8a77988.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Pixtor/media/HondaF6B2_zpsb8a77988.jpg.html)

Does this bike make my arse look fat?  Yep!
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Lionel on April 18, 2013, 10:25:48 PM
More leg room on the F6B. My knees don't rub against the fairing.
I won't be buying one soon though. The bike is just downright ugly.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: alans1100 on April 18, 2013, 10:29:01 PM
The Sprint looks to unbalanced with just one exhaust pipe........

As much as I like the wing.......the chopped version just doesn't do it for me

Title: Re: The End
Post by: Sabie on April 18, 2013, 10:41:54 PM
I'm gunna be wearing a black (and orange) armband..... RIP my STead....
Title: Re: The End
Post by: alans1100 on April 18, 2013, 10:58:29 PM
I'm gunna be wearing a black (and orange) armband..... RIP my STead....

Still plenty of life in her yet........

The lower price might affect used 1300 values as well
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Cerebral Knievel on April 18, 2013, 11:43:18 PM
The F6B seems to be a case of design " Form over Function " !
Ugly as hat full of arseh•les - makes you wonder which Fekkin Eeeejit executive signed off on the thing   :spank:  :spank
Title: Re: The End
Post by: BigTed on April 19, 2013, 12:36:33 AM
As for Ma Honda's replacement, the VFR1200F is certainly a nice looking bike - I looked at one when I got my ST - but a tourer it ain't.  :||||
(http://firm-guide.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Honda-VFR1200F-picture-12.jpg)
Title: Re: The End
Post by: alans1100 on April 19, 2013, 11:55:33 AM
the VFR1200F is certainly a nice looking bike

in an ugly sort of way...........motor and dct transmission all the stuff that makes it work is ok......the rest, could do with a makeover
Title: Re: The End
Post by: StinkyPete on April 19, 2013, 12:20:17 PM
The VFR1200 is far too much Sport and far too little Tourer.    I'd lean towards the new Triumph Trophy long before the VFR.    Will I get bannished for saying "Triumph" on this forum?   
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Marcus on April 19, 2013, 12:50:54 PM
I brought my ST1300 with a plan on keeping it until it can go no more...

I have no interest in any other bike or model.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: BigTed on April 19, 2013, 12:58:30 PM
I brought my ST1300 with a plan on keeping it until it can go no more...

I have no interest in any other bike or model.
That's at least what I told my wife.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Diesel on April 19, 2013, 02:34:12 PM
Well... I can't see the point of this forum going on any longer.      :'(


I'll give everyone 1 week to say their goodbyes... then, sadly, it's lights out.


Thanks to all for making this a great place to be while we had it.


R.I.P ST


Cheers, Diesel
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Biggles on April 19, 2013, 02:39:56 PM
Hang on Diesel.  We can still need a place to share ideas about where to find parts and how to get rego and insurance for antique bikes.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Streak on April 19, 2013, 03:09:51 PM
Hang on Diesel.  We can still need a place to share ideas about where to find parts and how to get rego and insurance for antique bikes.
Well... I can't see the point of this forum going on any longer.      :'(

I'll give everyone 1 week to say their goodbyes... then, sadly, it's lights out.
Thanks to all for making this a great place to be while we had it.
R.I.P ST

Cheers, Diesel

oh look you two  :well :well
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Diesel on April 19, 2013, 03:15:53 PM
                               :butt                       :nahnah
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Marcus on April 19, 2013, 03:19:51 PM
Well... I can't see the point of this forum going on any longer.      :'(


I'll give everyone 1 week to say their goodbyes... then, sadly, it's lights out.


Thanks to all for making this a great place to be while we had it.


R.I.P ST


Cheers, Diesel


Well played sir... well played

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e276/marcusstringer/cheers-slow-clap_zps99dfc8b0.gif)
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Cerebral Knievel on April 19, 2013, 06:13:54 PM
Well... I can't see the point of this forum going on any longer.      :'(


I'll give everyone 1 week to say their goodbyes... then, sadly, it's lights out.


Thanks to all for making this a great place to be while we had it.


R.I.P ST


Cheers, Diesel

Me thinks young Diesel may have had some inside info on the demise of the ST.
How else do you explain the bulk lots of parts & accessories for sale lately at crazy bargain basement prices?
 :think1
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Turtle on April 19, 2013, 06:46:22 PM
Diesel is like that Italy cruise ship captain Concordia he's off first stuff the rest of the passengers   :whistle

Abandon ship abandon ship

 :butt
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Skip on April 19, 2013, 06:48:58 PM
F6B ??? Whats with that ?  :H   Does 'Victory' not ring a bell for anyone else.? Not my cuppa tea I'll give you the drum.
But then I'm like Marcus. Mine will be with me until I don't feel comfortable holdin' the beaST up.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Streak on April 19, 2013, 07:45:06 PM
Well... I can't see the point of this forum going on any longer.      :'(


I'll give everyone 1 week to say their goodbyes... then, sadly, it's lights out.


Thanks to all for making this a great place to be while we had it.


R.I.P ST


Cheers, Diesel

Me thinks young Diesel may have had some inside info on the demise of the ST.
How else do you explain the bulk lots of parts & accessories for sale lately at crazy bargain basement prices?
 :think1

Nah I cant believe it  :well

Its just a dry sense of humer  :-(((

This forum will go on with or without any ship captain Concordia

Wont it ?  :eek

Oh there are a couple of good first mates about.....
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Cerebral Knievel on April 19, 2013, 07:53:37 PM
 :spank
Well... I can't see the point of this forum going on any longer.      :'(


I'll give everyone 1 week to say their goodbyes... then, sadly, it's lights out.


Thanks to all for making this a great place to be while we had it.


R.I.P ST


Cheers, Diesel

Me thinks young Diesel may have had some inside info on the demise of the ST.
How else do you explain the bulk lots of parts & accessories for sale lately at crazy bargain basement prices?
 :think1

Nah I cant believe it  :well

Its just a dry sense of humer  :-(((

This forum will go on with or without any ship captain Concordia

Wont it ?  :eek

Oh there are a couple of good first mates about.....

For health & safety reasons, make sure you keep the seamen off the starboard bow
- you wouldn't want the ship to go down would you ?  :butt
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Diesel on April 19, 2013, 09:24:44 PM
Well. All is well on the good ship OzSTOC. There'll be no scuttling nor running aground. We shall sail in to fair weather, and make any scurvy dogs walk the plank!    👍
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Brian on April 20, 2013, 06:05:23 AM
Aaarrgghh aye Cap'n.... Ah vaST ye matee... She be a STrong n STurdy ship with a fearsome crew...aarrrgggh!!
So bring her about ... Trim the mainsail ... OzSToc has now moved upmarket into an elite category ..collectors item.

Any excuse to talk like a pirate haha
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Sabie on April 20, 2013, 12:13:29 PM
You guys have gotta get a life..... :rofl
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Cerebral Knievel on April 20, 2013, 12:46:02 PM
You guys have gotta get a life..... :rofl

That's enough of the dissent you scurvy dog - walk the plank  :hijacked
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Brian on April 20, 2013, 02:42:41 PM
Long live OzSToc!!!
Title: Re: The End
Post by: doggy & Nola on April 20, 2013, 03:37:14 PM
my st1300 will see me out i hope .
if not i will be lost >:()
Title: Re: The End
Post by: ST2UP on April 20, 2013, 03:41:23 PM
They can prize my ST keys from my cold dead hands.....LOL !!!
Title: Re: The End
Post by: doggy & Nola on April 20, 2013, 03:57:18 PM
(the way to go) with my cold dead hands on the red st1300 hand grips  8)
Title: Re: The End
Post by: pault on April 25, 2013, 06:56:00 PM
with the give away price of the last 1300's, some may have noticed a drop in price of late model used 1300's. i know of one which has gone from $13k to $10k overnite with 70k on the clock. Local dealer said that honda would have a new bike out in 2014, no details.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Biggles on April 25, 2013, 08:15:35 PM
Maybe, just maybe they're listening to the hue and cry from the STalwarts.

I read the long article on the Triumph Sprint in Australian Motorcyclist #2 and it's very impressive.
Only three cylinders!   :eek
What were they thinking?  We know you can't balance an odd number.

BUT
cruise control, 55 litre top box, fly-by-wire, electronic suspension...
hold it right there- it's getting way too electrickery for this little black duck.  I just want a digital display I can read!
Title: Re: The End
Post by: quokka80 on April 25, 2013, 08:44:13 PM
 :13Candy                           :wht11                                    :bl11                                       :blk11                                           :gldst11                                                     :rd13



Alas poor ST, I have but known thee well. 'Tis a far far greater thing etc, etc, etc.

Methinks the ST's may be around for a tad longer than some may consider.  Look at the value of the '70's vintage CB's. Oh yes, nothing so plastic in the life of the ST market, chaps.

Me also thinks we Ostralia ST owners may well be still riding them after some of the honourable gentlemens of the Rising Sun who made this unfortuatous decision to end the ST line and are no more.

Viva la ST. Long may they make a (nice) noise.   :thumbs :clap :beer :-++ :thumb

                :rd13                                      :wht11                                        :blk13                                     :blu13                                            :gldst11                                         :slvr13
Title: Re: The End
Post by: rendog on April 30, 2013, 12:16:33 PM
Methinks the ST's may be around for a tad longer than some may consider.  Look at the value of the '70's vintage CB's. Oh yes, nothing so plastic in the life of the ST market, chaps.

Me also thinks we Ostralia ST owners may well be still riding them after some of the honourable gentlemens of the Rising Sun who made this unfortuatous decision to end the ST line and are no more.

Just to clarify - the Honda Manager said no more Australian imports of ST's, NOT the end of production  :'(
Title: Re: The End
Post by: saaz on April 30, 2013, 12:43:55 PM
If the ST13s last as long as the ST11s, the last of the new ones should be good through to 2030+
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Sabie on April 30, 2013, 12:51:07 PM
No mention of the ST on the Japanese Honda website..

http://www.honda.co.jp/motor/ (http://www.honda.co.jp/motor/)
Title: Re: The End
Post by: rendog on May 01, 2013, 09:47:37 PM
No mention of the ST on the Japanese Honda website..

[url]http://www.honda.co.jp/motor/[/url] ([url]http://www.honda.co.jp/motor/[/url])


Sabie - what makes you think I can read Japanese ?   :CB--
But it is still on the U.K. website (http://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/tourers/#!/st1300/)
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Greencan on May 01, 2013, 10:41:12 PM
Quote
Just to clarify - the Honda Manager said no more Australian imports of ST's, NOT the end of production 

I'd be very surprised to see em produced for much longer, after all they are a decade old and the competitors are now more tech advanced. And let's be honest, the 1300 hasn't been the red wing's finest marque to roll of their production line. :-[
Just a thought

Ciao the can:-)
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Sabie on May 02, 2013, 09:04:29 AM
Greencan.... Thats Sacrilege ..... :spank.  Of course it's the best.......
Title: Re: The End
Post by: saaz on May 02, 2013, 12:36:33 PM
The local Honda dealer did not seem at all interested in chasing up wheter any more ST13s were available at the runout price. They did have a cheap VFR1200 with all the hard bags and topbox for around $17k ride away, but it is definitely not an ST13 replacement.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Sabie on May 02, 2013, 01:21:43 PM
No mention of the ST on the Japanese Honda website..

[url]http://www.honda.co.jp/motor/[/url] ([url]http://www.honda.co.jp/motor/[/url])


Sabie - what makes you think I can read Japanese ?   :CB--
But it is still on the U.K. website ([url]http://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/tourers/#[/url]!/st1300/)


Konichiwa Rendog San

It's still for sale on the US site as well.

Sayonara
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Down Under on May 02, 2013, 03:40:02 PM
The local Honda dealer did not seem at all interested in chasing up wheter any more ST13s were available at the runout price. They did have a cheap VFR1200 with all the hard bags and topbox for around $17k ride away, but it is definitely not an ST13 replacement.

What a stunning failure the VFR 1200 is.....remember when they retailed for 25 K!  With the demise of the ST1300 in Oz.....Honda doesn't seem to be too concerned about becoming a non event in the sport touring segment of the market.   :crazy 

It would be nice to think that they've been working on an ST replacement that'll blow us all away but it looks like Honda's been too busy turning their Goldwings into cruiser hybrids and developing bikes like the CTX.  Maybe that's where they think the market is going for them?
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Marcus on May 02, 2013, 03:41:33 PM
I would have thought being as open and big a place as Australia the sport touring market would be Huge here for them
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Sabie on May 02, 2013, 03:59:32 PM
Didn't Ford do a similar thing in the 80's with the V8's and left the V8 market and now are hard pressed to get the market share back from GMH?

It's a bit short sighted by Honda, to have a bike that is superior to its competitors in every sense and only needs some revision to update it and not so much remoldel it.

One day the 1100's will be unviable to keep repairing and then the 1300's as time marches on. So what do we ride in the future, I expect I still have another 20 to 25 years on a bike maybe even more god willing, as the previous owner of my bike was 80.

Bad Form Honda Australia... :well
Title: Re: The End
Post by: rendog on May 02, 2013, 05:18:11 PM
Didn't Ford do a similar thing in the 80's with the V8's and left the V8 market and now are hard pressed to get the market share back from GMH?


Yep I remember Ford telling us that Australian's didn't want V8's anymore.
I'm guessing their market reserach was done on High St Prahran, as opposed to Main St Geelong.
Maybe same thing with Honda, their market reserach was done in Shangzon Bvd, Guangdong?
This is after all where the future of the mass produced market is.
BTW. I can't read the Chinese Honda  (http://www.honda.com.cn/product/motor/import/cbf1000/) site either  :||||
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Sabie on May 02, 2013, 05:37:09 PM
Didn't Ford do a similar thing in the 80's with the V8's and left the V8 market and now are hard pressed to get the market share back from GMH?


Yep I remember Ford telling us that Australian's didn't want V8's anymore.
I'm guessing their market reserach was done on High St Prahran, as opposed to Main St Geelong.
Maybe same thing with Honda, their market reserach was done in Shangzon Bvd, Guangdong?
This is after all where the future of the mass produced market is.
BTW. I can't read the Chinese Honda  ([url]http://www.honda.com.cn/product/motor/import/cbf1000/[/url]) site either  :||||



I heard the Chinese web site is run by a guy called Whu Flung Dung....... :grin
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Greencan on May 02, 2013, 08:46:50 PM
Quote
Honda doesn't seem to be too concerned about becoming a non event in the sport touring segment of the market.     

...what's a VFR800 then :eek

Quote
One day the 1100's will be unviable to keep repairing

...what is there that needs to be routinely repaired :crazy. Have I missed something?

Of all the bikes I have and had, a bog standard and unaltered 1100 is by far the most reliable, maintenance easy and boring ride I have got. That's its attraction! :thumbsup

Cheers, the can:-)

Title: Re: The End
Post by: Down Under on May 03, 2013, 08:25:27 AM
Quote
Honda doesn't seem to be too concerned about becoming a non event in the sport touring segment of the market.     

...what's a VFR800 then :eek

Quote
One day the 1100's will be unviable to keep repairing

...what is there that needs to be routinely repaired :crazy. Have I missed something?

Of all the bikes I have and had, a bog standard and unaltered 1100 is by far the most reliable, maintenance easy and boring ride I have got. That's its attraction! :thumbsup

Cheers, the can:-)

The VFR800 is a beautiful bike but it's beginning to show its age.  It wasn't too long ago when Honda had some real breadth and depth in their sport touring range.  Variety such as the CBR1000XX, VTR1000, CB1300/S plus the VFR800 and ST1300.  The VFR1200 has been a sales disaster and I'm not interested in crossing the continent fully loaded, 2 up on a VFR800.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: rendog on May 03, 2013, 09:19:42 AM
The VFR800 is a beautiful bike but it's beginning to show its age.  It wasn't too long ago when Honda had some real breadth and depth in their sport touring range.  Variety such as the CBR1000XX, VTR1000, CB1300/S plus the VFR800 and ST1300.  The VFR1200 has been a sales disaster and I'm not interested in crossing the continent fully loaded, 2 up on a VFR800.


It appears the CBF1000 is being marketed as the main tourer for Asia.
But the Pan European is still on the Asian website (http://www.honda.com.cn/product/motor/import/st1300a/).
Though the attraction to sheep is a bit weird  :rofl
The Blackbird was a stonker CBR1100XX but not many places one can ride at 200km/hr+
I don't want to spend $40G on a huge GL1800 - fullstop
And I agree touring two up on an 800 is just painful  >:()

I will be keeping mine in good condition for a few more years yet.
And when I get old and need to slow down I'll go buy a Harley  :p
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Sabie on May 03, 2013, 09:55:44 AM
Quote
Honda doesn't seem to be too concerned about becoming a non event in the sport touring segment of the market.     

...what's a VFR800 then :eek

Quote
One day the 1100's will be unviable to keep repairing

...what is there that needs to be routinely repaired :crazy. Have I missed something?

Of all the bikes I have and had, a bog standard and unaltered 1100 is by far the most reliable, maintenance easy and boring ride I have got. That's its attraction! :thumbsup

Cheers, the can:-)


My point was Can, that the ST's won't go forever in the numbers that are currently on the road. That one day they'll wear out.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Sabie on May 03, 2013, 09:57:48 AM
The VFR800 is a beautiful bike but it's beginning to show its age.  It wasn't too long ago when Honda had some real breadth and depth in their sport touring range.  Variety such as the CBR1000XX, VTR1000, CB1300/S plus the VFR800 and ST1300.  The VFR1200 has been a sales disaster and I'm not interested in crossing the continent fully loaded, 2 up on a VFR800.


It appears the CBF1000 is being marketed as the main tourer for Asia.
But the Pan European is still on the Asian website ([url]http://www.honda.com.cn/product/motor/import/st1300a/[/url]).
Though the attraction to sheep is a bit weird  :rofl
The Blackbird was a stonker CBR1100XX but not many places one can ride at 200km/hr+
I don't want to spend $40G on a huge GL1800 - fullstop
And I agree touring two up on an 800 is just painful  >:()

I will be keeping mine in good condition for a few more years yet.
And when I get old and need to slow down I'll go buy a Harley  :p


Buy a Harley Ren, and you'll get to have a personal relationship with each and every service station.  :rofl
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Tackleberry on May 04, 2013, 10:58:18 AM
Buy a Harley Ren, and you'll get to have a personal relationship with each and every service station.  :rofl
 
That's with the mechanic and not the bowser. :rofl 

At least you get an extra vehicle with the ute they throw in to recover it. :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: The End
Post by: rendog on May 04, 2013, 04:20:39 PM
Buy a Harley Ren, and you'll get to have a personal relationship with each and every service station.  :rofl
 
That's with the mechanic and not the bowser. :rofl 

At least you get an extra vehicle with the ute they throw in to recover it. :rofl :rofl :rofl

Oh ... oh ... you two are really no help at all  :p
But just to confirm, Harley riders up here are
ute driving, spanner swinging, fuel guzzling bogans ?   :think1
Quickest way to slow down - buy a Harley  |-i
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Sabie on May 04, 2013, 04:42:59 PM
Buy a Harley Ren, and you'll get to have a personal relationship with each and every service station.  :rofl
 
That's with the mechanic and not the bowser. :rofl 

At least you get an extra vehicle with the ute they throw in to recover it. :rofl :rofl :rofl

Oh ... oh ... you two are really no help at all  :p
But just to confirm, Harley riders up here are
ute driving, spanner swinging, fuel guzzling bogans ?   :think1
Quickest way to slow down - buy a Harley  |-i

And here I was trying to be really supportive to a Brother ST owner..... "No help at all" what a slap in the face with a wet dish....Trish...mish... Something like that, it was wet anyway...

And Tackleberry was just being.....Tackleberry......

If you really want to find a replacement for the ST that makes a statement.... Buy a Ural....... :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: The End
Post by: alans1100 on May 04, 2013, 04:48:21 PM


...what's a VFR800 then :eek



Looking at the VFR 800 on the website suggests it only a single seater. Also rather more a sport bike than a tourer.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: rendog on May 05, 2013, 07:43:56 PM
If you really want to find a replacement for the ST that makes a statement.... Buy a Ural....... :rofl :rofl

Is there a dealer in Townsville ?  :popcorn
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Sabie on May 05, 2013, 08:37:32 PM
If you really want to find a replacement for the ST that makes a statement.... Buy a Ural....... :rofl :rofl

Is there a dealer in Townsville ?  :popcorn

Actually there is..
Townsville Sidecars
Subsidiary of RHD Classic Supplies and Services
9/29 Casey St, Aitkenvale QLD 4814
Ph: 0407 147 247 (Daylight hours only)


But DON'T DO IT.......
Title: Re: The End
Post by: rendog on May 05, 2013, 10:09:09 PM
Hmmm,

Biggles goggles   - check
Scarf                  - check
Leather skull cap - check
Russian accent    - might need help with that one  Wot thuh

Maybe a direct import might be the answer  :think1
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Sabie on May 05, 2013, 10:46:41 PM
dasvidaniya Rendog

ваши в Австралии, Вы дурак, вам не нужно говорить на русском языке
Title: Re: The End
Post by: STeveo on May 06, 2013, 08:06:06 AM
The URAL Importer lives in Kentucky (near Armidale) and is a real nice bloke and passionate about his bikes, but remember if you really want one that they are flat out at 110km/h down hill solo. They would no doubt do that for years without trouble, but 80km/h is about thier crusing speed. Good thing for transversing the 'steeps', but too slow for Aussie highways.

 :bl11
Title: Re: The End
Post by: rendog on May 06, 2013, 04:55:55 PM
The URAL Importer lives in Kentucky (near Armidale) and is a real nice bloke and passionate about his bikes, but remember if you really want one that they are flat out at 110km/h down hill solo. They would no doubt do that for years without trouble, but 80km/h is about thier crusing speed. Good thing for transversing the 'steeps', but too slow for Aussie highways.


No we aren't being serious STeveo
We're just filling the internet up with s%$^
Geez Sabie, we are in Australia so there's no need to speak in Russian  :p

BTW: I've found top secret photos of a test pilot on the next touring model  :crackup

(http://media.treehugger.com/assets/images/2011/10/214-mpg-diy-honda-bike-photo01.jpg)
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Sabie on May 06, 2013, 05:06:33 PM
The URAL Importer lives in Kentucky (near Armidale) and is a real nice bloke and passionate about his bikes, but remember if you really want one that they are flat out at 110km/h down hill solo. They would no doubt do that for years without trouble, but 80km/h is about thier crusing speed. Good thing for transversing the 'steeps', but too slow for Aussie highways.


No we aren't being serious STeveo
We're just filling the internet up with s%$^
Geez Sabie, we are in Australia so there's no need to speak in Russian  :p

BTW: I've found top secret photos of a test pilot on the next touring model  :crackup

([url]http://media.treehugger.com/assets/images/2011/10/214-mpg-diy-honda-bike-photo01.jpg[/url])


Sorry Ren, mate I thought I was speaking slowly..... :rofl

Wow a mobile Pannier..... Where's the rest of the bike?

Title: Re: The End
Post by: Sabie on May 06, 2013, 05:08:21 PM
dasvidaniya Rendog

ваши в Австралии, Вы дурак, вам не нужно говорить на русском языке

Translation..

your in Australia, you fool, you do not need to speak in Russian
Title: Re: The End
Post by: alans1100 on May 15, 2013, 09:50:58 PM
If we go buy what the Local Australian dealers tell us then the poor selling VFR1200 is our only option when 1300 stocks have gone.

So here's the optioned up touring version. I don't have issue with the VFR motor and DCT transmission except that it's an east-west motor as opposed to the 1100/1300 north south motor which is normal for a shaft drive. I would also prefer a twin exhaust sytsem as 4 into 1 looks unbalanced plus the overall look is sort ugly compared to the 1100. 

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4497/37847942976_0c94eaac75_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZEuAQY)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4466/37847942806_c4c642d9f0_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZEuAN3)
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Sicman on May 15, 2013, 10:01:31 PM
Its definitely not pillion friendly. On my way to Mildura for the 2012 Ulysses AGM I stopped at Rankin Springs to strain a kidney. A couple on a VFR 1200 pulled up beside and got chatting to my Mrs.
After about 5 minutes of the two pillions discussing the rides, seats, pannier space his Mrs turned to him and slapped him, saying " you had the money to buy that ( pointing to my ST1300) and you bought this ( pointing to his VFR)"
She wasnt impressed by the pillion seat and the mega sore arse or the fact she had to leave the hair dryer, curler and high heels at home. :eek

My Mrs looked at me and gave me that "you've done the right thing, but I am not gunna tell you that" look :grin :hatwave

Cheers
 :slvr13
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Biggles on May 16, 2013, 12:03:30 AM
The pillion seat looks like one of those sorry little pads they put on sports bikes.  Only good for an itsy bitsy botty to go across town dressed in shorts.
With the legs tucked up like she's kneeling.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: keith3po on May 16, 2013, 02:24:10 AM
The pillion seat looks like one of those sorry little pads they put on sports bikes.  Only good for an itsy bitsy botty to go across town dressed in shorts.
With the legs tucked up like she's kneeling.
Like this? :crazy

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-21q1iEXRQqw/UZO2CiraaGI/AAAAAAAABI0/bgxnOIe-JIo/s800/funny_pictures_002.jpg)
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Sabie on May 16, 2013, 02:38:25 AM
The pillion seat looks like one of those sorry little pads they put on sports bikes.  Only good for an itsy bitsy botty to go across town dressed in shorts.
With the legs tucked up like she's kneeling.
Like this? :crazy

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-21q1iEXRQqw/UZO2CiraaGI/AAAAAAAABI0/bgxnOIe-JIo/s800/funny_pictures_002.jpg)

Keith, what happens on an RTE, stays on an RTE..... :crackup

It's getting that way you can't even take the girlfriend out for a ride without it being broadcast around the world...... :rofl
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Brian on May 16, 2013, 06:14:30 AM
The front reminds me of this guy......
Title: Re: The End
Post by: quokka80 on May 16, 2013, 10:18:12 PM
At least he was thoughtful enough to give the goat a cushion - sort of.  :crackup

The VFR1200 does nix for me from the image in the photo. Single exhaust leaves the other side naked.

The pillion seat even looks like a trip to the bus stop only, and the back rest is a back ache in the making for any short rides with a bump in it. |-i

If I bought one my lady would not be amused,  and would be following in the car. :-(((

I give this one a  :butt, my first for a big Honda bike.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Diesel on May 17, 2013, 08:20:19 AM
Well, here it is.... your next Sports Tourer.....


(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XXjPIWwZqfc/T_FEk5trjKI/AAAAAAAAX9E/8Kb8hCmEEhE/s1600/2013+Triumph+Trophy+1200.jpg)
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Streak on May 17, 2013, 08:34:13 AM
it amazes me how ST1300ish that bike is/....
Title: Re: The End
Post by: beatup on May 17, 2013, 08:42:16 AM
Might have to follow The Doc into the Yamaha enclosure if your looking for a new tourer.
Link to all the goodies is

http://www.yamahamotorsports.com/sport/products/modelfeatures/180/0/features.aspx (http://www.yamahamotorsports.com/sport/products/modelfeatures/180/0/features.aspx)
Title: Re: The End
Post by: beatup on May 17, 2013, 08:46:16 AM
not bad to eyeball

Title: Re: The End
Post by: Diesel on May 17, 2013, 08:47:19 AM
it amazes me how ST1300ish that bike is/....



Yep - highlight's the ST13s 10 year olde design as being 'acceptable' - still today.

It looks like the Trophy has all the specs that we would love to have seen in the NEW ST1300 if it ever got designed....

Fly by wire throttle, wider rear, electronic wonderland, smaller tank though...

See the U.S. Spec version here....


http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/27282/Buyers-Guide-Specifications/2013-Triumph-Trophy-SE.aspx (http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/27282/Buyers-Guide-Specifications/2013-Triumph-Trophy-SE.aspx)


Price is even the same as the run out cost of a ST13....
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Diesel on May 17, 2013, 08:53:23 AM
not bad to eyeball



Yep - this (FJR 13) would probably be my choice of replacement atm - they sound fantastic too.

We just have to get used to a 400-450km range now, as this seems the standard.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: beatup on May 17, 2013, 10:35:36 AM
Seems that Mr Honda has a new philosophy.
Pop into a dealer and look at the new range or read abt the company plans.
All look to be small or midrange.
And the bikes don't have the electronic gizmos of the other manufacturers.
Seems the Big Red is stuck in a time warp.
They do minor updates while the others are adding all the bits pioneered by the beemer folk.
Those minor upgrades and lack of new technology must be hurting sales across the range since just abt everything has been discounted massively.
Perhaps we're charging too much for the stuff we ship over to turn into metal and they can't afford to build a long wheelbase bike like the ST cause it's got too much frame.
Wonder what 2014 will bring.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Wild Rose on May 17, 2013, 11:55:31 AM
I test rode the new Triumph Trophy up at the Ulysses AGM at Maryborough even though it was a nice bike to ride
I went out and bought a new ST1300. The discounted price did help a bit with the decision though
Title: Re: The End
Post by: Bikebear on May 17, 2013, 12:23:28 PM
Could be a long wait to buy a Triumph Trophy at roughly $28500 to ride away it's a bit more than I can even dream of spending on a bike.
I have been looking at a used '04 ST1300A with 57000ks on it here in Cairns, 1 owner (who I know personally) and only $9900. The bike has been ridden quickly but not flogged and never dropped... just need to convince SWMBO that I really need another sports tourer to go with my 1100 and Shadow 750 and Suzuki Freewind and my tinny and .......

Title: Re: The End
Post by: alans1100 on May 17, 2013, 12:52:38 PM
I'd have to go with the new 1600 beemer if ever I had the cash to buy a new one. The six does it where a three just doesn't.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4495/37176484943_ac39ddd1db_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/YDacLk)



Title: Re: The End
Post by: Bikebear on May 17, 2013, 05:54:11 PM
For the money one would spend on the beemer I'd get a Goldwing. I've never heard of a Goldwing final drive packing it in whereas BMW .. too many times.
Title: Re: The End
Post by: alans1100 on May 17, 2013, 06:16:35 PM
I wouldn't buy the 1600 either. It was more a choice out of the newer ones on the market.

We're looking at getting a low km 1300a in a couple years time.



Title: Re: The End
Post by: Brian on May 17, 2013, 08:49:53 PM
 Wot thuh did someone say GOLDWING ???