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Farkles, Gear & Accessories => Comms and Audio => Topic started by: Brock on June 24, 2013, 06:54:06 PM
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With the current discussion about earmolds else where , I thought I would enter my 2bobs worth (20Cents in new money)
I have the SMH10, http://www.mrmobile.net.au/sena-bluetooth/sena-smh10-bluetooth-motorcycle-intercom/sena-smh10-bluetooth-headset-intercom-for-motorcycle-Single-pack-1 (http://www.mrmobile.net.au/sena-bluetooth/sena-smh10-bluetooth-motorcycle-intercom/sena-smh10-bluetooth-headset-intercom-for-motorcycle-Single-pack-1)
but never liked the speakers, as they dont go into the Shark helmet very well.
Looking an Mr mobile, I found this.. http://www.mrmobile.net.au/sena-bluetooth/sena-smh10-bluetooth-motorcycle-intercom/sena-smh10-3-5mm-audio-jack-microphone-clamp-unit (http://www.mrmobile.net.au/sena-bluetooth/sena-smh10-bluetooth-motorcycle-intercom/sena-smh10-3-5mm-audio-jack-microphone-clamp-unit)
It allows the stereo earmolds to be plugged in, instead of speakers.
Now coupled with the SR10, and the correct adapters UHF radio interfacing is easily possible http://www.mrmobile.net.au/sena-bluetooth/sr10-two-radio-adapter/sena-bluetooth-two-way-radio-adapter (http://www.mrmobile.net.au/sena-bluetooth/sr10-two-radio-adapter/sena-bluetooth-two-way-radio-adapter)
The audio is pumped directly into the ear canal, via the earmolds and is crystal clear. Now to select a decent UHF radio to couple in, the Handheld just isnt quite cutting it
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I have all that stuff. I will be making up a cable to suit a GME 3520 that has a remote headunit http://www.gme.net.au/products/radio-communications/uhf-477mhz-cb-radios/TX3520 (http://www.gme.net.au/products/radio-communications/uhf-477mhz-cb-radios/TX3520) I use the 40 channel version GME 3420 at the moment.
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That is a radio I'm thinking about as well, decisions decisions
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Cannot agree more Brock regarding the Sena Bluetooth gear. Just set up helmets with the universal kit, one Shoei and one Shark. Performance is great and so easy to use. Am yet to purchase the Sr10 and radio. Interested in watching this thread develop for feedback.
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So Brock is the UHF to be tucked away out of the weather or out in it but where you can access its features ??
Can recommend the TX4600 if you have room......have seen them take a flogging on cow cockies quad bikes in all weather, used one in my 4x4....big buttons, knobs , numbers, clarity, etc.
Used a TX3220 (because I had one spare) on the 1100 mounted in the Topbox, only used Ch 40 so was not a big pain.
Now use a Uniden UH078sx 5w/1w with a 6.5 dbi and 2dbi gain antenna.
Cheers
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I have been using the 3420 for a few years, as has Lionel and STroppy. The head unit goes up the front on the dash, main unit in the tail. The head unit survives remarkably well, the only time it has problems is with spraying water over it while cleaning the bike. I have put some tape around mine to keep the water out, but may try some liquid electrical tape.I had a Uniden UHO75sx with an external aerial, but something went wrong in it so not worth fixing. I found I use the on bike CB far more useful as setting up and taking off the portable was a chore so I tended not to set it up all the time.
All of these were through an Autocom.
TX4600 would be better in all conditions, but have to check its dimensions to see if it fits up the front of the bike I would use it on.
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I am using Interphone F4 headset with Shark Evo3, removed the ear liners and don't know anything is there, Sena SR10 with Uniden 7700 compact UHF, see post, http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=4459.0, (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=4459.0,) unit is mounted under dash panel,
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GME TX3500 has been added to the bike, connected through the SR10, with a home made interface cable. (Well I bought the generic cable, and added the needed bits to it) Works well.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/Avtrician/radio1_zps8c73c2df.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/Avtrician/radio2_zps19cf09e2.jpg)
The Antenna
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/Avtrician/Antenna_zps930c53d8.jpg)
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good work there mate!
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The radio has an extra mic jack in the back, do the Sena is plugged into that. I have a blanking plate to fill the hole in the front.
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So where's the best place to buy the Sena from? I'll need 2 or a twin set. Buying new Helmets for Ballarat but I don't know what brand yet.
I'd like a radio as well but I don't have a lot of money to spend at the moment on a " luxury " item like that, (that's what Mrs Sabie would think anyway)
So fire away with your suggestions on the best place to purchase the Sena SMH10.
Cheers
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Mr Mobile is as good a place as any
http://www.mrmobile.net.au/sena-bluetooth (http://www.mrmobile.net.au/sena-bluetooth)
I used this adapter with audio earmolds. Works very well
http://www.mrmobile.net.au/sena-bluetooth/sena-smh10-bluetooth-motorcycle-intercom/sena-smh10-3-5mm-audio-jack-microphone-clamp-unit (http://www.mrmobile.net.au/sena-bluetooth/sena-smh10-bluetooth-motorcycle-intercom/sena-smh10-3-5mm-audio-jack-microphone-clamp-unit)
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Earmould have been supportive of the club their prices seem fiar to :)
http://www.earmold.com.au/Sena-Bluetooth-Communication/View-all-products.html (http://www.earmold.com.au/Sena-Bluetooth-Communication/View-all-products.html)
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:thumbs nice setup there
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Or if your heart is set on Sena, Prestige Comms in WA the SMH10 kit $345.00.cheapest i have seen.
:beer
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Agree with Chris. I bought my SMH10 dual kit and ST10 radio adapter from Mr Mobile and the service was great but Prestige Comms does appear to be cheaper. Depends if you cop a shipping charge on top of the price or not. Either way, great gear that works exceptionally well. Sabie, I have fitted the Sena to both a Shoei GT Air helmet and a Shark. Really simple to install and there are great demo's on YouTube. :thumbsup
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I'm currently using a scala Q2 which is starting to show signs of age and of wear and tear. The FM to FM reciever has never work well music is always faint even with all volumes turned up full. The search function for a radio station is crap and unable to use with a glove, without a glove the buttons leave a divot in your fingers. Mrs Sabie prefers her open face RXT in favor of her Nolan 102 so most times all I get is her wind noise as the unit keeps activating. I also have a Nolan 102 which I'm not overly happy with these days, it was good at first but the liner soon compressed so now its a loose fit and after Middleton this year it's bloody heavy all day every day.
So new Comms and new helmets before Ballarat
Thanks everyone :thumb
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The Sena headset/s and SR10 seem to work well for their design spec.
One thing to note however for those who have a handbrake (SWMBO) on the back, IF you want to share music/GPS/UHF with them the Sena is not capable. The ST10 ONLY pairs to one helmet.
Looking at total costs if you want to share it all with the "boss" its a matter of a hungred or $ to go with something that does :whistle
The BK-02 kit comes with EVERYTHING included, no need to purchase a PTT, power supply, UHF cable, GPS cable et al (http://www.dmme.com.au/BikerCom.htm (http://www.dmme.com.au/BikerCom.htm))
And for members here I will include a modified cable if needed for ANY UHF or 2 way radio you have.
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Depends on the specs of said SWMBO. Take mine for instance, she hates my music, cannot stand listening to the CB and does not care how we get there, as long as we arrive. She just pairs to here own phone for music and calls, talks to me on the IC and runs anything else she wants off her phone. So the Sena stuff fits the bill for us. As you say though, this may not be enough for some. :thumb
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The Sena headset/s and SR10 seem to work well for their design spec.
One thing to note however for those who have a handbrake (SWMBO) on the back, IF you want to share music/GPS/UHF with them the Sena is not capable. The ST10 ONLY pairs to one helmet.
Looking at total costs if you want to share it all with the "boss" its a matter of a hungred or $ to go with something that does :whistle
The BK-02 kit comes with EVERYTHING included, no need to purchase a PTT, power supply, UHF cable, GPS cable et al ([url]http://www.dmme.com.au/BikerCom.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.dmme.com.au/BikerCom.htm[/url]))
And for members here I will include a modified cable if needed for ANY UHF or 2 way radio you have.
Dale, I believe Mrs Sabie doesn't ride on the back, I think she rides her own bike :runyay :blu13 :blu13 :runyay
But if she can be convinced to spend the money, the BK-02 kit on each bike would rock :rockon
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Hi Guys
Thanks Shiney your right Mrs Sabie has her own bike and doesn't ride on the back with me. Unfortunately, that system is way beyond our budget.
The Sena or similar system will suit out needs.
Cheers :thumb
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Sabie, I can highly recommend the SMH10 for bike to bike communication. It's what Streak and I were using on the national rally, they work very well, clear and easily loud enough to hear while still being able to be turned up louder.
The battery life is very good, on the trip we charged them each night and they handled the whole day without issue. (Although I did forget to charge mine one night and it ran out of power half way through the next day, so it handled one and a half days without charging. Not bad :thumb)
I purchased my SMH10 dual set from my local Team Moto for $360. This was the closest they could come to matching an online price I had found ($345)
I was happy to pay the extra $15 to have a local shop I could easily return the units to if I had any issues as opposed to returning them to an interstate/online dealer.
I hope this is of some help mate :hatwave
Cheers
Shiney
Link to SMH10 at Team Moto
http://www.motorcyclesuperstore.com.au/on-road-accessories/general-accessories/intercoms/13340-sena-smh10-motorcycle-bluetooth-headset-intercom.html (http://www.motorcyclesuperstore.com.au/on-road-accessories/general-accessories/intercoms/13340-sena-smh10-motorcycle-bluetooth-headset-intercom.html)
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Sena SM10 Dual Music Transmitter Pairing to Cardo Scala G9: Sena Bluetooth SM10 Demonstration (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-DtAJSOWTg#ws)
I didn't think you could cross pollinate with these
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It looks like we are getting to the point where Bluetooth is Bluetooth, no matter what the brand. It is good that differing brands can pair and operate without having to stick to your own kind. Hopefully all the suppliers can see the benefits in this and allow cross pollination with all bands. Moving in the right direction. :runyay
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It looks like we are getting to the point where Bluetooth is Bluetooth, no matter what the brand. It is good that differing brands can pair and operate without having to stick to your own kind. Hopefully all the suppliers can see the benefits in this and allow cross pollination with all bands. Moving in the right direction. :runyay
Sorry Neale :'( dont get too excited.
The SM10 is purely a BT sender ANY Bt headset will apir with ANY BT sender for music, nothing new just bought to your attention,
headset to headset etc will STILL be incestuous :||||
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Thanks Dale, balloon now busted. :p
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Sena SR10 Bluetooth Two-Way Radio Adapter Review at RevZilla.com (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o6vB-Va4xg#ws)
The two way radio adapter Also pairs with Scala
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It also pairs with mobile phones, I removed the PTT button and soldered it to passing switch for PTT as the police do.
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Does anyone know if the sena smh10 and contour + cam can bluetooth to each other so i can use the sena to record audio whilst using the contour thus negating having 2 mics inside my helmet.
:wht11
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Rather than start a new thread, I will add to this. There is a firmware update for the SMH10 using the Sena updater. Current version is 4.2.1 Seems to be an update mostly for more compatibility with GPS devices.
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There is a firmware update for the SMH10 using the Sena updater. Current version is 4.2.1 Seems to be an update mostly for more compatibility with GPS devices.
Here is a link to the new features.... Note that it is now 4.3 Beta......
http://senabluetooth.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/SMH10-v4.3-Beta-Firmware-Notes.pdf (http://senabluetooth.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/SMH10-v4.3-Beta-Firmware-Notes.pdf)
Does anyone know if the sena smh10 and contour + cam can bluetooth to each other so i can use the sena to record audio whilst using the contour thus negating having 2 mics inside my helmet.
No idea on this one Bloodbikes - betting men would say no - but only an opinion, may very well be wrong.
Cheers, Diesel
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I am using Interphone F4 headset with Shark Evo3, removed the ear liners and don't know anything is there, Sena SR10 with Uniden 7700 compact UHF, see post, [url]http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=4459.0,[/url] ([url]http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=4459.0,[/url]) unit is mounted under dash panel,
I really need to pick your brains as we are all running interphone f5's and I would like to set up uhf to mine. Cannot justify 6 new helmet comm sets so need to make this work.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk
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f5 were not available when I purchased so I cannot comment, if you come to York we can try to pair with SR10, the f5 is going to be the only difference.
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f5 were not available when I purchased so I cannot comment, if you come to York we can try to pair with SR10, the f5 is going to be the only difference.
If you are up for a visitor, i will see you on Saturday this weekend to try and get things sorted before Bremer Bay ... :thumbsup
Looks like i may get wet again though .... :||||
:wht11
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I'm getting some static between headsets on the Sena10.
What is the cause and the fix.
And do the gurus think it would be possible to use the mp3 connection to plug in a uhf wire
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I'm getting some static between headsets on the Sena10.
What is the cause and the fix.
>:() this I cant help with sorry
And do the gurus think it would be possible to use the mp3 connection to plug in a uhf wire
Sorry but :rofl "might as well have a wired system"
Ian the mp3 INPUT connection is just that, you could make up a connection to LISTEN ti UHF but not be able to talk on it.
It would also be muted each time your intercom was active, so you'd likely loose information you wanted to hear :'(
the only (near) real solution is to use their UHF adaptor SR10 I believe it is
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I'm getting some static between headsets on the Sena10.
What is the cause and the fix.
And do the gurus think it would be possible to use the mp3 connection to plug in a uhf wire
Part 2 first:-
I take it you mean the audio/speaker out.... Yes its possible, but not the most efficient way to go about it, as Dale mentioned. The best/easiest way is with the SR10, it allows you to receive and transmit on the UHF as well as pair with GPS/Phone/MP3or4 and so on.
Part 1 :- extremely difficult to answer, as we cant hear the static you are hearing, mine is crystal clear. There are many types/causes of static, and just as many fixes (more like black magic really)
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I'm about to buy a new Comms set for a new helmet.
So a little bit of advice or direction is required. Which is the better unit?
The Sena SMH10 dual
http://senabluetooth.com/product/intercoms/smh10/ (http://senabluetooth.com/product/intercoms/smh10/)
Or the Sena SMH10R dual
http://senabluetooth.com/product/intercoms/smh10r/ (http://senabluetooth.com/product/intercoms/smh10r/)
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If I understand it right the smh10r is a low profile version with less features than the smh10
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Sena are bringing out a new unit that has an FM radio built in. It claims to be able to link to any other bluetooth. Not released yet but believed to be around US$400. Looks similar to Scala G9. To be released early next year. Check their website under 20S..
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Fm radio already available.
it seems to be an upgraded version of the five.
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The 20S is much more than an upgraded smh 5. It has gretly increased features and price tag. The $400 price tag is for one unit only with the dual price aroud US$579 according to Sena direct.
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If I understand it right the smh10r is a low profile version with less features than the smh10
Hmmmm, not sure that is correct?? unless you are talking about the 10r missing the big wheel??
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I was looking at both sena's but prestige comms advised the 10 was better of the two unless you were racing then the r is slimline
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Thanks Wombat, I think you're right, I'll prob go with the SMH10 and no the slimline R.
Thanks everyone for your input. The 20s looks impressive but at nearly $600 puts it out of my budget.
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Sabie you are making a good choice with the SMH10 I have had them for over 2 years no issues and firmware upgrades easy as to do and adding the SM10 for UHF makes the complete unit on the long runs more enjoyable
Turtle
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Thanks Turtle, I plan or add the sm10 and uhf radio around Christmas. :thumb
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Just bought a single smh10 unit yesterday. After my old Scala Rider FM I think I jumped ahead about 100 years. What a difference. Still need to register it and update to the latest version of software, but its great already. :thumbsup
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There is the proper version of the 4.3 update now available, along with a revised users manual. If the unit(s) is registered you should get the email with the instructions. The brief blurb says:
Dear Sena users,
Thank you for using Sena products.
We are pleased to announce the release of the firmware version 4.3 of the SMH10 and the SMH10R with major enhancements in functions such as music sharing and speed dial.
- Music Sharing: You can start sharing music with an intercom friend using Bluetooth stereo music during a two-way intercom conversation.
- Speed Dial: You can assign a desired phone number to a speed dial on the SMH10R or on PC, and quickly make a phone call by using the voice speed dial menu while the phone is paired.
You can upgrade your firmware using the new Device Manager 1.4.3 for Windows. Manager v1.9.3 for Mac OS X is available as well for Mac users.
Please be sure to register your product online in order to download the new Manager software, since free upgrade service is provided only to the registered users. For more details, please visit Sena web site at www.SenaBluetooth.com (http://www.SenaBluetooth.com).
Please download the Device Manager or firmware.
Please download the new user's guide.
The firmware upgrade service is provided only to the registered users.
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I've just updated both of mine - very easy installation and no problems (this time). :thumbsup
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Sena SMH10 for me.......it does everything I want it to, I'm able to converse very clearly with a riding buddy provided there's line of sight, while connected to my iPhone it auto answers my incoming calls, it plays music stored on my phone, and gives me verbal directions if I'm using Metroview (GPS)! I cannot fault it! :grin
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My new Sena SMH10 Dual arrived today. It doesn't have an FM radio in it which is disappointing. But the unit look good, just have to install it into the new Shark evoline 3 helmet.
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I didnt like the way the speakers fitted the evo 3, had to dremel out the recess a bit more. Eventually changed the mount base to suit the earmold with speaker , much better. The Senna works weel..
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I'm glad that the Sena SMH10 was my first purchase of a helmet comms system. THe clarity from rider to rider is very good, and I have only used it once for a phone conversation while riding and it worked flawlessly. I don't often listen to music while riding but when I have the music is also nice and clear.
Yeah, I also have problems with the large ear speakers fitting well and not pushing against my ears. My best option would be to change to the mount that allows me to connect earmold earphones, and that's what I'll do when I can arrange it.
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Well after spending many hours researching bike comms today to meet our requirements a pair SMH10's , SR10 and a couple the new headsets with speakers & Earmould connection are in the mail.... :hatwave
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Cool
Did you get this one??
http://www.mrmobile.net.au/sena-bluetooth/sena-smh10-bluetooth-motorcycle-intercom/sena-smh10-3-5mm-audio-jack-microphone-clamp-unit (http://www.mrmobile.net.au/sena-bluetooth/sena-smh10-bluetooth-motorcycle-intercom/sena-smh10-3-5mm-audio-jack-microphone-clamp-unit)
Or this one
http://www.mrmobile.net.au/sena-bluetooth/sena-smh10-bluetooth-motorcycle-intercom/sena-helmet-clamp-kit-speakers-earbuds-smh-a0305 (http://www.mrmobile.net.au/sena-bluetooth/sena-smh10-bluetooth-motorcycle-intercom/sena-helmet-clamp-kit-speakers-earbuds-smh-a0305)
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Neither......but close, from another supplier......only a few dollars cheaper but saved considerable on the SMH10 about $60 cheaper than most with free postage :thumbsup
http://www.mrmobile.net.au/sena-bluetooth/sena-smh10-bluetooth-motorcycle-intercom/sena-helmet-clamp-kit-speakers-or-earbuds-with-attachable-boom-or-wired-mic-smh-a0306 (http://www.mrmobile.net.au/sena-bluetooth/sena-smh10-bluetooth-motorcycle-intercom/sena-helmet-clamp-kit-speakers-or-earbuds-with-attachable-boom-or-wired-mic-smh-a0306)
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Ah ha,
I bet you order the supreme Pizza with the works..... :grin :grin
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:nahnah What can I say.....I like to have options, be nice to have the option of Earmoulds and on some days speakers with or without foam plugs on others.....found after a few consecutive hot/sweaty days on the road with Earmoulds ears need to have a break from them.
The previous Starcom on the 1100 and the current Bikercom on this 1300 both had some great features but time to seek some additional facilities.....charge on the move is one of the functions we seek, but wanted to remain B/T and not tethered to the bike.
:beer
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:nahnah What can I say.....I like to have options, be nice to have the option of Earmoulds and on some days speakers with or without foam plugs on others.....found after a few consecutive hot/sweaty days on the road with Earmoulds ears need to have a break from them.
The previous Starcom on the 1100 and the current Bikercom on this 1300 both had some great features but time to seek some additional facilities.....charge on the move is one of the functions we seek, but wanted to remain B/T and not tethered to the bike.
:beer
:|||| :|||| It's a pain sharing a computer at times.........Pockey's Samsung is in the hands of a teenager !!
Cheers
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The music sharing between headsets from the SMH10 is sweet !!! You just need to do the update first to the current software.
:beer
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I have just set up my Sena SMH10 to my mobile phone. And it actually works :grin
Now I want to connect my Garmin car GPS
Do I Bluetooth the GPS to the Sena Headset or to my Mobile phone to get both to work together ?
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Depends on the Garmin, it may only allow hands free phone use...
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Pair the headset to the GPS. I know the Zumo 660 works with this, just depends on the GPS
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My Garmin is a car nuvi 2595 and it has Bluetooth, but every time I try to Bluetooth the GPS to the Sena headset
it doesn't like it and won't connect.
Both the GPS and Garmin connects to my HTC One XL but they won't connect together at the same time so the mobile will drop out
I may just have to go out and buy a Zumo 660 or the new model that is out :well
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OR put a GPS app on your HTC phone for a few dollars.......phone is connected and so is anything that comes from the phone.......so Phone, Music, GPS etc
Sygic or Metroveiw apps come to mind.... :think1
:beer
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Leo,
the Nuvi will connect with the phone to give handsfree use of the phone, Its not designed to connect to a blue tooth headset .
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Baet me to it Brock :crackup
CAR GPS's dont have BT OUT, just BT in from a phone (I'd love a $ for every time I've had to tell that :whistle)
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When you think about it, how many times have you needed to listen to a car GPS through a bt headset of some kind.
might be handy though when the wife n kids are in a shouting match over the cd being played while you are trying to dodge trucks cars n bikes on the not free way
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When you think about it, how many times have you needed to listen to a car GPS through a bt headset of some kind.
might be handy though when the wife n kids are in a shouting match over the cd being played while you are trying to dodge trucks cars n bikes on the not free way
:|||| The Question comes up when people have been to hardly Normal/JB/Joyce mayne/Dick Smith et al and the "salesperson" says "YEAH its Bluetooth -no problem" :well :well :OldMan
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Thanks for all the reply's fellows :thumb
When you want to know something just ask OzSTOC someone will know :thumbsup
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You might have to spend a penny or 3 on a Garmin Zumo 660, 550 or 390lm or TomTom Rider
That's why there're a little more expensive than the standard car GPS, I've put a couple of links so you know what your looking at, but as always shop around, unless of course Dale sells them and if you do Dale, my apologies for not referencing you first.
Garmin Zumo at Johnny Appleseed
http://www.ja-gps.com.au/GPS-Units/Motorcycle-GPS (http://www.ja-gps.com.au/GPS-Units/Motorcycle-GPS)
Tomtom Rider
https://www.tomtom.com/en_au/products/customised-navigation/motorbike-rider-series/ (https://www.tomtom.com/en_au/products/customised-navigation/motorbike-rider-series/)
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Thanks Sabie
I will just have to leave the Garmin nuvi in the car and use my HTC for a GPS until I can
save up to get a Zumo or Tom Tom :eek
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I thought you Aurizon guys were rolling in it..... :rofl
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I thought you Aurizon guys were rolling in it..... :rofl
You know how it is. I am working on my 2nd Million before I retire :rofl
Only wish :grin
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Metroview application works well with iPhone, if that's any help :thumb
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If you have the Clamp that is designed for Earmoulds be careful of the little plug that comes out of it that they connect to, they have a tendency to break.
I'm on my second one, this time I bought one locally so I can make a warranty claim if I need to
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Heard that about the earbud stalk.......solved by buying the SMH-A0306 headset, has options for both helmet speakers and Earmoulds without the stalk option.
:thumbsup
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Here's another in the market: The F5XT sounds competitive:
http://motorbikewriter.com/interphone-f5xt-helmet-bluetooth-review/ (http://motorbikewriter.com/interphone-f5xt-helmet-bluetooth-review/)
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Here's another in the market: The F5XT sounds competitive:
[url]http://motorbikewriter.com/interphone-f5xt-helmet-bluetooth-review/[/url] ([url]http://motorbikewriter.com/interphone-f5xt-helmet-bluetooth-review/[/url])
You can't use the interphone with external speakers / earmoulds etc. Only has audio input not output.
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Interesting software update for Sena.......particularly the Universal Intercom :eek
Sena Released SMH10 Firmware Version 5.0
Sena Users,
Thank you for using Sena products.
We are pleased to announce the release of the version 5.0 firmware of the SMH10 with major enhancements in functions and features such as Universal Intercom and Advanced Noise Control™.
- Universal Intercom: You can have an intercom conversation with non-Sena Bluetooth headsets using the Universal Intercom™ function.
- Advanced Noise Control™: It is equipped with wind noise suppression and intelligent Noise Gate in the intercom to limit the interference of wind noise and background noise while riding.
- Sidetone: If this feature is enabled, you can hear what you are speaking during an intercom conversation or a phone call.
You can upgrade your firmware using the new Device Manager v1.4.4 for Windows and v1.9.4 for Mac users.
Please be sure to register your product online in order to download the new Manager software, since free upgrade service is provided only to the registered users. For more details, please visit Sena web site at www.SenaBluetooth.com (http://www.SenaBluetooth.com).
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Let's hope the wind noise upgrade works cause with the uhf people can't hear me unless I put the screen up
Pezz knows what I'm talking about
Turtle
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Sorry ??? What was that you said Turtle ????
Sent from my GT-I9507 using Tapatalk
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I find the sena works quite ok with windscreen down and the shark evoline flipped up, when on the CB or just headset to headset. When listening to someone on an ST13 it is noticeable when the screen is lower and flip helmet up, as there seems a lot of wind noise.
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So for a wind noise reduction are users getting better results form the Microphone foam, cap or both fitted ?
:beer
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I haven't played around much, just use the foam cap. Just depends on your helmet and windscreen setup. I have only used mine on a non-ST, but the foam cap was enough using the autocomm with a flip helmet on the ST11.
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I use the cap and foam, nobody has made mention of any wind noise. Mind you, I havent tried talking with visor and chin bar up.
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Oh well means another group ride to test the update
Northcliffe again WOW:
Turtle
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Upgraded to V5.0, suggest that you leave the side tone off. When the SR10 conveys its information, it opens the sidetone, so you get a little wind and engine noise fed to the ears untill it shuts down.
Suggestions for SR10, set wait for more talk to 3 secs not 5
SMH10 dont turn on vox intercom, as when used with sidetone on, you are fed outside noise. Especially not good when using earbuds
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I have done mine also :) thanks Brock for settings
Turtle
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I found out the hard way, road from Kinross to Jandakot with engine and wind whistling in my ears. Sorta defeated the purpose of ear plugs....
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Yes, agree with this. Just tried it out this morning and the sidetone stays on too long, as is too loud. Unless I can tone it down a bit, it will go off. The sidetone also comes on whenever there is a CB transmission, so it picks up any noise and puts it straight into your ears.
Upgraded to V5.0, suggest that you leave the side tone off. When the SR10 conveys its information, it opens the sidetone, so you get a little wind and engine noise fed to the ears untill it shuts down.
Suggestions for SR10, set wait for more talk to 3 secs not 5
SMH10 dont turn on vox intercom, as when used with sidetone on, you are fed outside noise. Especially not good when using earbuds
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So Sena guru's here is a problem to help solve.....
Setup:
SMH10
SR10 (hard wired to ignition pwr via its cig plug)
Uniden 078 Handheld
IPhone 4 (music from this)
Everything works as it should, Phone is brilliant, Music & Music sharing is fine, Intercom great ++
Now comes the issue as soon as I transmit on the UHF or any signal is received by the UHF (which are both clear) the music doesn't return.....and there is a rhythmic beep in the headset. The phone is still connected and working as it should as a phone just not music.....
Connection is currently Phone B/T to SMH10 (rider) then sharing to pillion and SR10 BT to SMH10 (rider)....
If I connect Phone B/T to SR10 along with wired UHF the functions of UHF & phone work fine BUT no music at ALL........and before you iPhone bash.....does the same with Pockey's Samsung S4.
So it has to be a B/T issue of connection/disconnection but bizarre that it dumps music (still showing as playing) but phone parts still connected and working as a phone.
:popcorn
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will give it a try later and see
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Chris I find if I don't start phone connection first then sr10 I can't get music to play with my iPhone only UHF will come on :OldMan
I start iPhone to smh10 headset play start my music then press on Sr10 and UHF then comes on someone talks or me transmit it comes into smh10 and and music drops then nothing from UHF 5 second it will go back to music
Strange it's the way I find it work no issues
I don't run the phone into the sr10 just pair to smh10 only
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So Sena guru's here is a problem to help solve.....
Setup:
SMH10
SR10 (hard wired to ignition pwr via its cig plug)
Uniden 078 Handheld
IPhone 4 (music from this)
Everything works as it should, Phone is brilliant, Music & Music sharing is fine, Intercom great ++
Now comes the issue as soon as I transmit on the UHF or any signal is received by the UHF (which are both clear) the music doesn't return.....and there is a rhythmic beep in the headset. The phone is still connected and working as it should as a phone just not music.....
Connection is currently Phone B/T to SMH10 (rider) then sharing to pillion and SR10 BT to SMH10 (rider)....
If I connect Phone B/T to SR10 along with wired UHF the functions of UHF & phone work fine BUT no music at ALL........and before you iPhone bash.....does the same with Pockey's Samsung S4.
So it has to be a B/T issue of connection/disconnection but bizarre that it dumps music (still showing as playing) but phone parts still connected and working as a phone.
:popcorn
Seams I have found my problem :|||| discovered by a process of elimination a multiple tantrums :whistle
The entire system works just how it should when I remove the charger for the Handheld......so there is an earth issue there somewhere, so a beer and a multimeter are off to the shed..... :think1
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I have found with the attempted charging and using the UHF that it has created issues similar to yours. My fix was to not use the UHF whilst it was charging. If you come up with another solution I will be very interested :popcorn
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Could you have filtered power for the UHF charger??? :think1, now over to the experts.
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The instructions for the Uniden 078 advise against transmitting while it is on charge. Page 6 of the User Manual (attached)
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I have found with the attempted charging and using the UHF that it has created issues similar to yours. My fix was to not use the UHF whilst it was charging. If you come up with another solution I will be very interested :popcorn
Which UHF are you using Trevor ?
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Could you have filtered power for the UHF charger??? :think1, now over to the experts.
Tried a different cig lighter on the bike from a different source than that first tried and a stand alone battery from the boat.....all with the same result :H
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The instructions for the Uniden 078 advise against transmitting while it is on charge. Page 6 of the User Manual (attached)
Thanks for that Pete I had read that as well, the Uniden 12v Charger that Uniden sell for this radio I questioned about just that that you mentioned......perhaps they just wish to sell more product but stated it is a battery eliminator as as apposed to a charger.......but it does charge the battery :whistle
But interestingly I have the issue even on receive.......it's no big deal as I can charge on lunch stops and overnight and carry a second hand held battery..... :beer
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Some Sena feed back after a little jaunt this afternoon to scrub the new tyres in........ok it was a coffee run :fp
- Using our Earmould plugs we found Music and intercom not loud enough via helmet speakers.....but phone was fine, interestingly when I was solo yesterday the volume was fine.....just not 2UP with shared music (which is great) and the intercom.
- Using our Earmould speakers.....WOW :runyay bloody marvellous :-++
- VOX intercom that we got used to on previous Bikercom and Starcom.......not great when 2UP, solo with my helmet and behind the screen all good......BUT 2UP with Pockey in more disturbed air her Helmet introduces heaps of wind noise over 90kph, so the VOX activates drops your tunes and needs constant re-set. Using off VOX on user activated intercom mode SO much more betterer and gooderer !! Just takes a little getting use to as we have used VOX for last 5 years.
- Pockey not having the primary phone and UHF in her head as well as mine was not ideal as again she had got used to being able to be in a conversation on the Phone and UHF......but now she has her own mobile connected to her helmet.
- Charge on the move is great over the Bikercom
- This is the clearest Music we have experienced over the other systems we have owned
So is this the perfect system for us ???.......not quiet there !!! Need to breed the Starcom, Bikercom and Sena together to clone the perfect system for our use :like
:beer
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On my previous bike, I had the Uniden 078 permanently mounted in the charger cradle and under my seat. The cradle was hard wired to the battery, fused and with an in-line switch. At night, I'd turn the radio off and switch the charger on. Next morning, full battery on the Uniden, and I'd turn the charger off. Because it's such a small battery, it took very little from the bike battery. Worked for me. :thumb
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Yeah that's the go Pete.....I have my 078 on the bars and have the eliminator/charger plugged in and the bike connected to the CTEK 800ma......turn the radio on when in the shed to put a little load on the battery for the CTEK to cycle.
On the road we will just attach the charge cradle on breaks and overnight if required, carry a charged second battery for the portable if required.....I run the radio on its 1watt setting so get about 12 hours from the battery with minimal transmit time.....
:beer
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Also with the SMH10, turn off the Side tone, any squelch breakthrough on the radio will trigger it and feed constant wind noise into your ears...
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Had this problem with handheld, it now resides permanently in the shed, bought uniden 7700, modified internally and made the correct lead to plug into SR10, all problems solved.
The suppliers will only recommend handhelds for bikes as they have dual purpose mike, e.g. talk and listen, it does not work.
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Does anyone know where I can purchase a sena sr10 from in WA?
:wht11
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Again the place for you is Prestige Communications.......I bought our Sena equipment from them delivered to this side of the country FAR cheaper than anywhere else in Aust.
$219 delivered VS $249 on Ebay Vs $265 from Mr Mobile
:beer
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I bought the SMH10 for the Ballarat trip and I'm not 100% happy with them... They've played up almost every day.
Report to follow
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Be interesting to see your report Sabie......we had a few teething issues of our own when we changed over to Sena, but most of the issues we found were from the way we used our previous Intercoms and retraining ourselves.....biggest change was to using PTT and not VOX.
We do need to turn generally mine of a few times a day and turn back on to reset, most of this I believe relates to the marriage between Sena and iPhone. We have the following connected, to my helmet.....iPhone (TomTom, Mud Maps 2, Music, and Phone) and UHFCB as well as Intercom to Pockey.......Pockey has music shared from my iPhone via the Intercom and her own Samsung for calls to her Helmet.
:beer
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We have constant issues with;
Failing to connect time after time
Drop outs
Battery life (doesn't last the day) one unit goes flat a long while before the other.
Disconnects
Static
Voice quality
Sound quality
Stereo changes (one side prominent and then the other side prominent after next start up.
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Failed to connect..
Was this connection between Sena units, or phones, ancilliaries.
Battery Life
mine last at least 10 hrs, it may depend on how its used. ie, is it pumping music or gps info all day. I dont listen to music.
Full details will be interesting to see. It would be interesting to see what Sena have to say if you let them know that is..
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We have constant issues with;
Failing to connect time after time
Drop outs
Battery life (doesn't last the day) one unit goes flat a LNG while before the other.
Disconnects
Static
Voice quality
Sound quality
Stereo changes (one side prominent and then the other side prominent after next start up.
Bugger mate, sounds like a dud unit to me, Shiney and I have done two trips with ours now together and they have been fantastic, regularly over 10 hours battery's running fine, no troubleds connecting, from time to time if I get a phone call while we are talking it does not connect, but very rare.
Everything you have written about points to a faulty unit in my mind.
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I have no problem with mine, listen to music 10+hrs, use UHF and phone.
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Connecting to the other unit, I can just about repeat the line "connection failed .... Try again later..."
While in Melbourne and Sydney, it was vital that I stay connected to Pauline while in traffic eg lane changes and so forth, but no it let us down badly.
After talking them up to Pauline so I could purchase the SMH10's they really weren't worth a piece of crap... I can hear Pauline talk clearly but she can't understand a word I say, she reckons I talking underwater.
They turn themselves off without warning
Pauline's unit battery last about 4 maybe 5 hours
It looses pairing with the bluetooth MP3 player every day to every 2nd day (both units)
So when we get home it's in the draw or bin and put the old Scarla Q2's back on. The music with them is very soft, but the audio between units has never failed and the batteries last 2 days.
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I would be talking to sena and getting your money back or a replacement mate, don't waste good money :thumb
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Have the latest updates been applied, and have you adjusted the SMH10s settings via a PC.
There are a bunch of settings to set it how you want it.
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Latest updates were installed before we left.. Update 5 I think it was. All recommended settings were applied.
I bought them online through prestige communications WA.
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You may want to check the settings on your unit.
Mine ar
Enable VOX Phone, EDR, HighQuality A2DB, Mic boosting. Disable VOX Intercom Side Tone
By the way, an new firmware update is available.
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Updates will have to wait until we get home as I only have a eye thingy while travelling.
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Well, its nice n comfy at home right now..
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Never at any stage had a problem with mine, battery life lasts all day+ without any problems, connects easily to my mates unit & comes through clearly without static, and I usually have music streaming through my iPhone, phone calls connect easily.....mate, there has to be something drastically wrong somewhere! I've never run any updates since I purchased the unit......couldn't really see any reason to do so, so I've never bothered.
You must have a bodgie unit Sabie or somethings set up incorrectly! :grin
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Connecting to the other unit, I can just about repeat the line "connection failed .... Try again later..."
While in Melbourne and Sydney, it was vital that I stay connected to Pauline while in traffic eg lane changes and so forth, but no it let us down badly.
After talking them up to Pauline so I could purchase the SMH10's they really weren't worth a piece of crap... I can hear Pauline talk clearly but she can't understand a word I say, she reckons I talking underwater.
They turn themselves off without warning
Pauline's unit battery last about 4 maybe 5 hours
It looses pairing with the bluetooth MP3 player every day to every 2nd day (both units)
So when we get home it's in the draw or bin and put the old Scarla Q2's back on. The music with them is very soft, but the audio between units has never failed and the batteries last 2 days.
Sabie, talk to John at Prestige Comms.......
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I havent yet ridden with anyone who hasnt had an issue with their sena bluetoothy stuff. If it takes away the pleasure of the ride then its money wasted. I will stay cabled up to my Starcom 1 :thumb
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Had mine since it was released long ago and had a few issues with setup early on
Now set and forget with sr10 hub and iPhone uhf no real issues to make me want my money back
I think most times it's the iPhone4 issue like calling someone "call John smith" calling Peter Adams bloody phone
Turtle
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There is an update to V5 as well. Try reloading the firmware then factory reset. I was using mine down and back to Ballarat all day and still had three flashes of power left at the end of the day. Coming back I was in 3 way conversation all day and it lasted easily. Also had the CB radio hooked up. MP3 bluetooth would chew up more power though.
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Hello Everyone,
A new Sena is hitting the street now in May. It seems to be an SMH10 on steroids.
On paper it will do these extras;
- FM radio
- dual bluetooth channels
- connection to partner of 2.4kms
- but it comes at $625 for a paired set here in Oz
http://www.mrmobile.net.au/sena-bluetooth/20s-bluetooth-intercom/20s-bluetooth-headset (http://www.mrmobile.net.au/sena-bluetooth/20s-bluetooth-intercom/20s-bluetooth-headset)
I will be waiting until the prices drop.
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Hello Everyone,
A new Sena is hitting the street now in May. It seems to be an SMH10 on steroids.
On paper it will do these extras;
- FM radio
- dual bluetooth channels
- connection to partner of 2.4kms
- but it comes at $625 for a paired set here in Oz
[url]http://www.mrmobile.net.au/sena-bluetooth/20s-bluetooth-intercom/20s-bluetooth-headset[/url] ([url]http://www.mrmobile.net.au/sena-bluetooth/20s-bluetooth-intercom/20s-bluetooth-headset[/url])
I will be waiting until the prices drop.
Better still, these are the features from the Mr Mobile website;
Features
Bluetooth 4.0
Industry first dual Bluetooth module communication system
Audio Multitasking™: advanced audio management of intercom, phone, music and FM radio (patent pending)
Advanced Noise Cancellation™
Versatile bike-to-bike conference intercom
Intercom working distance up to 2.4km in open terrain
HD Quality crystal clear and natural sound
Intuitive voice prompts and commands
Built-in FM radio tuner with a station scan and save function
All-in-one helmet clamp kit
Quick Bluetooth pairing
Universal Intercom™: intercom with other brand communication systems
Water resistant for use in inclement weather
Firmware upgradeable
Two-year warranty
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Sounds good, great for leaner riders to instructor. I would find the FM radio useless, as I dont use one now...
And as my SMH10 is working fine then I'm in no hurry to upgrade.
Also, it may take a while for the earbud compatible base to come out.
P.S. since doing the latest software upgrade on the SMH10, I am getting faster connection to my mobile (Note3) and SR10
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Some thoughts and questions guys, am looking to get a SMH10R for both of us. Primary requirements is size, followed by intercom, phone, music. Not too fussed about long distance intercom yet.
Size is the biggest concern as the panniers on the 1100 just fit our lids now and I really don't want to have to take an intercom off every time I'm putting the lids away. It seem that the mounting bracket for the SMH10 comes a fairway down under the helmet (at least every photo that I've seen).
Anyone with either 10 or 10R have any experience/thoughts with this?
Thanks
Nate
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I have the SMH10 , and put my helmet in the top box. If I need to put it in a panier, then I just unclip the unit, no great problem.
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Hey Nate........any reason why the SMH10R as opposed to the SMH10?
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Hey Couch, for me the choice is a couple of things. As the SHM10 & 10R offer similar performance, the final decision comes to size & style. I Locke the idea of been able to put my lid straight into the panniers without having to pull off the unit. I generally ride without a topbox (unless it has the pups in it), so the lack of room can be an issue.
From everything I've read, the 10R isn't difficult to learn to use the main functions, so this will sort out 90% of my needs, functionality wise.
I also didn't really like the look of the mounting bracket for the SMH10, it seems to sit a fair way down under the lid, which to me, seems like it would catch on my jacket collar every time I turn my head. I haven't been able to see if there is a different mount (similar to the interphone units) that would suit me.
I don't like the interphone unit, and Sena seems to be the leader of the bluetooth pack, which lead me to choose the 10R.
Cheers!
Nate
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I also didn't really like the look of the mounting bracket for the SMH10, it seems to sit a fair way down under the lid, which to me, seems like it would catch on my jacket collar every time I turn my head. I haven't been able to see if there is a different mount (similar to the interphone units) that would suit me.
I have had my smh10 for a couple of years now, works brilliantly, I use the mounting bracket you are talking about, it sits quite nicely with the helmet, never had a catching problem at all, I am sure Shiney and diesel can also offer an opinion as well. :thumb
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+1,
I have never caught the mount on the jacket
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Hmm going to have to drop into one of the retailers and see if I can have a closer look. Apart from the size are there any additional benefits for the SMH10 over the 10R?
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I agree, I've never had a problem either.
What I don't like about the SMH10R is that you cannot remove the unit from the helmet to charge it, and the battery needs to be stuck on to the helmet somewhere separately, and then you have wires to the battery sticking out from under your helmet somewhere or other, it's also said that the battery charge lasts 35% less than the SMH10. The other disadvantage is that the controls are far easier to use on the SMH10 with gloves on than the SMH10R. All that said the SMH10R is a bloody good unit, they certainly look neater and smarter, but for my mind, they're not as good as the SMH10 :grin
I also didn't really like the look of the mounting bracket for the SMH10, it seems to sit a fair way down under the lid, which to me, seems like it would catch on my jacket collar every time I turn my head. I haven't been able to see if there is a different mount (similar to the interphone units) that would suit me.
I have had my smh10 for a couple of years now, works brilliantly, I use the mounting bracket you are talking about, it sits quite nicely with the helmet, never had a catching problem at all, I am sure Shiney and diesel can also offer an opinion as well. :thumb
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I agree, I've never had a problem either.
What I don't like about the SMH10R is that you cannot remove the unit from the helmet to charge it, and the battery needs to be stuck on to the helmet somewhere separately, and then you have wires to the battery sticking out from under your helmet somewhere or other, it's also said that the battery charge lasts 35% less than the SMH10. The other disadvantage is that the controls are far easier to use on the SMH10 with gloves on than the SMH10R. All that said the SMH10R is a bloody good unit, they certainly look neater and smarter, but for my mind, they're not as good as the SMH10 :grin
I also didn't really like the look of the mounting bracket for the SMH10, it seems to sit a fair way down under the lid, which to me, seems like it would catch on my jacket collar every time I turn my head. I haven't been able to see if there is a different mount (similar to the interphone units) that would suit me.
I have had my smh10 for a couple of years now, works brilliantly, I use the mounting bracket you are talking about, it sits quite nicely with the helmet, never had a catching problem at all, I am sure Shiney and diesel can also offer an opinion as well. :thumb
you beat me by about 5 mins, so i will say what couch said....
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Great minds think alike! :p
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well I have the 10R and very happy with it, I do have two batteries so one is on charge whilst the other is being used. You can of course charge it whilst it is being used. The battery is Velcro'd on the back of the helmet and is a simple change over.
I will be picking up a new 20s when they arrive
Unable to offer a comparison of the other one as I have never used it
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hey TJ, why did you choose the 10R? I've seen the guys comments on the 10, but looking at some thoughts on why someone chose the 10R.
TIA
Nate
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liked the idea of the smaller profile, all the functions are still there. Now having said that, as I mentioned above I will get the 20S when it comes so back to a larger profile but better functionality for what I do
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Just got notification from Sena that a new Firmware version is available for download/upgrade.
It says:
We are pleased to announce the release of the version 5.1 of the SMH10 which includes:
- Advanced Noise Control™:On/Off capability
- Improved intercom compatibility with the 20S
- Improved compatibility with Bluetooth GPS devices
- Minor bug fixes and improvements
Cheers, Diesel
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Yes got my email too :like
Turtle
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Just got notification from Sena that a new Firmware version is available for download/upgrade.
It says:
We are pleased to announce the release of the version 5.1 of the SMH10 which includes:
- Advanced Noise Control™:On/Off capability
- Improved intercom compatibility with the 20S
- Improved compatibility with Bluetooth GPS devices
- Minor bug fixes and improvements
Cheers, Diesel
updating mine as we speak, and i did read this about the new 20S Unit, it has a smart phone app that works with it....very interesting!
(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd499/ozstoc/2014-07-18_0904_zps787db231.png)
here is the info about the 20S
http://www.sena.com/product/intercoms/20s/ (http://www.sena.com/product/intercoms/20s/)
(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd499/ozstoc/sena_20s_radiorider_1_1_zpseb51144f.jpg)
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Minor problem with the 20, is that its not moulded ear plug compatible yet....
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Minor problem with the 20, is that its not moulded ear plug compatible yet....
yep minor problem, i have normal moulded earplugs without the speakers in them :thumb
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Minor problem with the 20, is that its not moulded ear plug compatible yet....
Actually looking at the user manual and brochures it has a built in 3.5mm female outlet for earplug connection and it looks a much more robust one thaan the 10's connection.
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Hmm, suppose you could cut the speaker off. Dont want them in my helmet, they dont fit too well.
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Hmm, suppose you could cut the speaker off. Dont want them in my helmet, they dont fit too well.
AND when you plug them in it cuts off the in helmet speakers (audio not cables :rofl)
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There always has to be one, doesn't there
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o:)
Dont know what you mean ????
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It looks, to me, that all the bits n pieces . . 3 different microphones, speakers, earbuds all just plug into the helmet clamp using 3.5 or 2.5 mm plugs . . So fairly flexible in configuration . . .
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Anyone updated to the Sena version 5.1 software yet ?? Found any issues :popcorn
:beer
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Yep, and Nope, all good
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Yes updated and noticed mine did a auto answer on in coming calls I will try a reset next :OldMan and I have it switched off for voice activation
Turtle
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Have been a lucky boy this week, my better half gave me a pair of 20s' as a present. :thumbs
We've been playing around with them over the last couple of days (PITA installing them on a Bell Revolver helmet, might be time to trade up to the Shark Evoline), but seem to be having a problem. I suspect its an issue between the seat & handlebars, but nevertheless....
Getting an intercom session going and having the music sharing at the same time. I cant seem to get this to work properly. I can get music sharing going briefly, but then the intercom drops and dosent want to start the sharing again. Or if the intercom is going, the music sharing dosent want to start!?! Any thoughts?
Also, what settings have you set that work best for you?
TIA
Nate
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Still working through the problems with the 20s, but found this bunch of YouTube Video Users Guide's from Sena that could help.
Thought they could be useful for others too.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXyK8lf8nIExIuGHHCQjzQqNaY9cWPtd3 (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXyK8lf8nIExIuGHHCQjzQqNaY9cWPtd3)
Cheers!
Nate
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Excellent find Nate, thanks for posting the link up ++
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If you have the Clamp that is designed for Earmoulds be careful of the little plug that comes out of it that they connect to, they have a tendency to break.
I'm on my second one, this time I bought one locally so I can make a warranty claim if I need to
Which of course it did break sent it off for a warranty claim & the other 2 to the USA to be modified
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If you have the Clamp that is designed for Earmoulds be careful of the little plug that comes out of it that they connect to, they have a tendency to break.
I'm on my second one, this time I bought one locally so I can make a warranty claim if I need to
Which of course it did break sent it off for a warranty claim & the other 2 to the USA to be modified
Did you consider this option Scarp ??
Sena AO305 with boom mic or the 306 with universal and boom mic.....fixes the 3.5mm plug on the stalk issue :like
(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q717/ST2UP/e06136528afccd7413c23aebe17e4122_zps6bf5541c.jpg)
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Or this,
http://www.sena.com/product/accessories/helmet-clamp-kit-for-speakers-and-earbuds-with-attachable-boom-microphone-wired-microphone/ (http://www.sena.com/product/accessories/helmet-clamp-kit-for-speakers-and-earbuds-with-attachable-boom-microphone-wired-microphone/)
(http://www.sena.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/SMH-A0306-500x362.jpg)
AO304
(http://www.sena.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Helmet-Clamp-Kit-For-Earbuds-with-Attachable-Boom-Microphone-Wired-Microphone-500x362.jpg)
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If you have the Clamp that is designed for Earmoulds be careful of the little plug that comes out of it that they connect to, they have a tendency to break.
I'm on my second one, this time I bought one locally so I can make a warranty claim if I need to
Which of course it did break sent it off for a warranty claim & the other 2 to the USA to be modified
I fixed it myself . . Easy to do . . Just disassemble, unsolder connections and solder in a replacement . . I just bought a lead from Jaycar with a female end and cut to length (longer than the Sena lead) and soldered in place, a little silicon to ensure water proof and all done. My theory is that the short lead is just that too short and that puts too much flexing on the short length and it fatiques the metal wire.
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Not sure if the other options were avail when I got mine the AO304 is the one stay away from as it's the one that breaks, not much good at soldering those type of connections.
If I'd known of somewhere to get it done here then I would have, found this place on the US Forum so went with that
http://www.plugup.com/default.asp (http://www.plugup.com/default.asp)
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I have the 304, and seems to be Ok at the moment, I can do the resoldering.. :grin
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Not sure if the other options were avail when I got mine the AO304 is the one stay away from as it's the one that breaks, not much good at soldering those type of connections.
If I'd known of somewhere to get it done here then I would have, found this place on the US Forum so went with that
[url]http://www.plugup.com/default.asp[/url] ([url]http://www.plugup.com/default.asp[/url])
If out of warranty, Prestige in Perth do repairs and I'm sure Dale McClean would also be able to do repairs?
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Sena have updated the firmware for the 20s, now ver 1.2. The changes are as follows:
Change made from version 1.1.1 to 1.2
* Increased audio volume for intercom, music and Bluetooth Audio Recording
* Improved multi-way intercom reliability
* Audio Boosting option
* Headset battery meter for iPhone
* Advanced Noise Control™ On/Off capability
* Voice command triggering by Ambient Mode button
* Bug fixes and improvements
Also new manual: http://www.sena.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/UsersGuide_Sena_20S_v1.2_en_20140903-1.pdf (http://www.sena.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/UsersGuide_Sena_20S_v1.2_en_20140903-1.pdf)
Will update mine tonight and report
Cheers!
Nate
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:like
now pauses music on incoming UHF signal and restarts it after the SR-10 stops talking :runyay
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Happy little camper here.
Ordered a Sena SMH10 Dual unit from Dale McLean Friday, he said it'd be here in northern QLD Monday and there it was on the doorstep Monday afternoon when I got home. Thanks Dale! The benefit of dealing with a local supplier, marvellous service!
Easy to install, did both the pillion's and my helmets after diner on Monday night. Charged them both up, each one took just over an hour to charge.
The near side speaker wire could be just a little longer, especially on the pillion's HJC helmet which has very thick neck pads. My RJays TourTech helmet has a little lip around the base of the helmet so the mounting plate screw on connector leaves the mounting plate a little proud of the side of the helmet. But if that causes excessive wind noise then I'll get the adhesive mounting pad out of the kit and use that.
Used both the stick on mike for the pillion's full face helmet and the boom mike for my flip front helmet, both easy to position and attach. The stick on mike is so inconspicuous - in fact the pillion asked, "Don't I get a microphone?"
We've both been busy since then, so only got to put the helmets on and talk to each other while we watched TV last night, absolutely no wind noise! Only used the jog on and off function, but will set them up with the VOX controlled intercom function for this weekend's rides to the countryside.
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The stick on mike is so inconspicuous - in fact the pillion asked, "Don't I get a microphone?"
I can easily see why that would alarm her!! 8)
We've both been busy since then, so only got to put the helmets on and talk to each other while we watched TV last night, absolutely no wind noise!
Will have to try that with Missus Biggles. Sounds like a great idea.
You could do it on the front porch and confirm the neighbours' suspicions... :grin
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I can easily see why that would alarm her!!
Mmmm, sort of a permanent "mute" facility.
Hadn't thought of that
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Nice one :like
You will be very happy I'm sure.....we prefer not o use the VOX and just use the joggle dial to activate, the music sharing is brilliant and BT phone up to the slow lane speed on the auto barn is super :thumbsup
:beer
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The Vox is crisp to open, but takes forever to close, so any external noise goes straight in the ear. May be ok for the pillion..
Try it anyway and see if its what you want..
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After a weekend without riding, we finally got to spend two days trolling around the local roads with the Sena SMH10 bluetooth units fitted to our helmets.
We both just clicked the jog button function and left them sending/receiving all the time. No problems, we chatted along as the scenery passed. My wife's full face helmet picks up a little wind buffeting sometimes but nothing to worry about. My flip front helmet seems a little better in wind noise prevention. Don't think we'll ever use the VOX intercom function. If I'm riding on my own I'll probably plug the i-pod in and have my personal music on in the background, though don't know if I should distract myself when I'm supposed to be concentrating on my riding.
Easy to recharge, we just click the removable unit off the helmet mounting plate and take them out to the kitchen and plug them in to our phone chargers. There's no 3 pin plug charger in the kit, only a 12V lighter adapter charger, but the units use the same micro USB as our phones so no worries.
Totally a happy camper! Thank all who passed on comments about the SMH10, and thanks Dale for excellent service.
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Sena has Updates for the SR10 and SMH10 available, just in the process of updating my gadgets
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Thanks for the heads up mate :thumbs
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
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I'll have to do mine when I get home.
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There is an update for the 20S to v1.5 as well, thanks for the reminder to look Brock :beer