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Title: bike lifts
Post by: Couch on July 27, 2013, 08:11:50 PM
Just wondering if anyone has had experience with any of the bike lifts that are available in Aus. I'd really like to be able to raise my bike off the ground to be able to work on it. Taking off wheels, servicing, etc. would be so much easier if the bike was at a reasonable height!  :grin
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Tipsy on July 28, 2013, 09:20:04 AM
 :wht11 py
here is an Sportsbike
http://www.sportsbike.com.au/bikelift_motorcycle_work_bench.html (http://www.sportsbike.com.au/bikelift_motorcycle_work_bench.html)

there are a few listed on ebay and some are in Aus
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-HYDRAULIC-MOTORCYCLE-LIFT-TABLE-PANEL-LIFTER-1000LB-/221140089413 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-HYDRAULIC-MOTORCYCLE-LIFT-TABLE-PANEL-LIFTER-1000LB-/221140089413)

Tipsy
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Couch on July 28, 2013, 12:09:08 PM
Many thanks Tipsy :thumbs. I've looked previously at both of these products, also some of the lifts that are available from the USA. The "Sportsbike" lifts are fantastic, and are top of the range, but they're very expensive. The Chinese made products are very much cheaper, but nowhere near the quality of "Sportsbike" which are made in Italy. I thought that some of our members may have had some experience in using one or the other, and could give some feedback, but it doesn't look like it!   Many of the ST Owners in the States use lifts, and they're readily available over there, but shipping costs to get them to AUS is a killer. I'll keep looking into it! I've requested a current price from "Sportsbike" on a very basic model and I'll post it here if anyone might be interested :grin.
 :wht13

:wht11 py
here is an Sportsbike
[url]http://www.sportsbike.com.au/bikelift_motorcycle_work_bench.html[/url] ([url]http://www.sportsbike.com.au/bikelift_motorcycle_work_bench.html[/url])

there are a few listed on ebay and some are in Aus
[url]http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-HYDRAULIC-MOTORCYCLE-LIFT-TABLE-PANEL-LIFTER-1000LB-/221140089413[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-HYDRAULIC-MOTORCYCLE-LIFT-TABLE-PANEL-LIFTER-1000LB-/221140089413[/url])

Tipsy
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Biggles on July 28, 2013, 12:21:57 PM
There's a mob called RADUM here in Brissie who will ship anywhere in Oz.

www.radum.com.au (http://www.radum.com.au)

1300 172 386

They have a big range, including turn-tables, jacks, lifts etc.  All reasonably priced.

Offer 5% discount to bike club members.
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Couch on July 28, 2013, 12:44:03 PM
The lift they offer is too small to take an ST unfortunately..........at 1350mm the bike wouldn't fit on the table. We need about 2000mm

There's a mob called RADUM here in Brissie who will ship anywhere in Oz.

[url=http://www.radum.com.au]www.radum.com.au[/url] ([url]http://www.radum.com.au[/url])

1300 172 386

They have a big range, including turn-tables, jacks, lifts etc.  All reasonably priced.

Offer 5% discount to bike club members.
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: saaz on July 28, 2013, 02:46:11 PM
I would be interested in a basic one with the auto wheel clamp option. I don't know how secure some of the others might be without extra straps etc, which can defeat the purpose of getting access to the bike at a higher level.

Many thanks Tipsy :thumbs. I've looked previously at both of these products, also some of the lifts that are available from the USA. The "Sportsbike" lifts are fantastic, and are top of the range, but they're very expensive. The Chinese made products are very much cheaper, but nowhere near the quality of "Sportsbike" which are made in Italy. I thought that some of our members may have had some experience in using one or the other, and could give some feedback, but it doesn't look like it!   Many of the ST Owners in the States use lifts, and they're readily available over there, but shipping costs to get them to AUS is a killer. I'll keep looking into it! I've requested a current price from "Sportsbike" on a very basic model and I'll post it here if anyone might be interested :grin.
 :wht13

:wht11 py
here is an Sportsbike
[url]http://www.sportsbike.com.au/bikelift_motorcycle_work_bench.html[/url] ([url]http://www.sportsbike.com.au/bikelift_motorcycle_work_bench.html[/url])

there are a few listed on ebay and some are in Aus
[url]http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-HYDRAULIC-MOTORCYCLE-LIFT-TABLE-PANEL-LIFTER-1000LB-/221140089413[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-HYDRAULIC-MOTORCYCLE-LIFT-TABLE-PANEL-LIFTER-1000LB-/221140089413[/url])

Tipsy

Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Couch on July 28, 2013, 03:01:00 PM
Just second thoughts on the lift from "Radum"...........if the bike was placed on the centre stand prior to lifting it then the length of the table might not be so important. They do actually state that their lift is more suitable to centre stand bikes, the bike could also be strapped after placing on the centre stand and prior to lifting to make it more secure.

It might just fit the bill after all! :thumbsup


The lift they offer is too small to take an ST unfortunately..........at 1350mm the bike wouldn't fit on the table. We need about 2000mm

There's a mob called RADUM here in Brissie who will ship anywhere in Oz.

[url=http://www.radum.com.au]www.radum.com.au[/url] ([url]http://www.radum.com.au[/url])

1300 172 386

They have a big range, including turn-tables, jacks, lifts etc.  All reasonably priced.

Offer 5% discount to bike club members.

Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: winston66 on July 28, 2013, 04:38:26 PM
winston66
Have you checked out your local Auto One,or Supercheap ,or Repco store.
I recently purchased two Mc lift jacks, (small tables), and by combining them I was able to make a table lift 2400 by 600. with a lift height of around 500 mm.
I removed one of the hydrolic jacks etc. from its respective lift, and then placed the two small tables back to back and joined them together at floor level with a couple of 50 mm rt.angles and at their top (bolted everything together) with a suitable plywood table top.
I then constructed a suitable wheel clamp which was bolted to the table top .
This worked for me and the wheel clamp holds the bike quite securely.
If anyone is interested I will get and post some pictures.
Cheers ,
Winston66
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Shiney on July 28, 2013, 04:52:57 PM
winston66
Have you checked out your local Auto One,or Supercheap ,or Repco store.
I recently purchased two Mc lift jacks, (small tables), and by combining them I was able to make a table lift 2400 by 600. with a lift height of around 500 mm.
I removed one of the hydrolic jacks etc. from its respective lift, and then placed the two small tables back to back and joined them together at floor level with a couple of 50 mm rt.angles and at their top (bolted everything together) with a suitable plywood table top.
I then constructed a suitable wheel clamp which was bolted to the table top .
This worked for me and the wheel clamp holds the bike quite securely.
If anyone is interested I will get and post some pictures.
Cheers ,
Winston66

I’m interested in looking at some pictures, it sounds like an interesting setup :thumbsup
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: STeveo on July 28, 2013, 05:34:44 PM
Couch, buy this one.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-HYDRAULIC-MOTORCYCLE-LIFT-TABLE-PANEL-LIFTER-1000LB-/221140089413 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-HYDRAULIC-MOTORCYCLE-LIFT-TABLE-PANEL-LIFTER-1000LB-/221140089413)

I bought one of these about two years ago and have had every thing on it from 50cc stepthrough, ST1100 to quad bikes. Works well and if used on a flat floor is very stable. The tyre clamp at the front needed to have a couple of washers under it to bring it up straight in line with the moveable piece. The tyre clamp needs to be done up tightly on a fully inflated tyre. You don't need to put the bike on the centre stand, but it does make wheel removing easier. When wheeling the ST onto the ramp I use a timber plank to keep me at right height for balance, a stronger person may not need to do this. The Chinese ones are quite good enough for home use, have even seen them used in bike shops, without the need to spend thousands of dollars for a professional quality unit.

Couch, when you ask for feedback you have to give us time to see you post. Today was perfect riding weather and that's what I did. I have only just now seen you post and replied.  :wink1

 :bl11
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: saaz on July 28, 2013, 05:51:25 PM
Once question - how to you go about clamping the front wheel if you are a one man operation?  If that is possible, looks like a unit that would work.
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: winston66 on July 28, 2013, 06:08:48 PM
winston 66,
 Hi Shiney,
If you look back at my previous post you should find some pictures, when looked at with reference to the write up it might be possible to understand what I was rambling on about.
It will all possibly be as clear as mud but should give some food for thought.
Incidentally the wheel clamp was constructed using an old (disused) wheel chair motor a scissor jack and a bit of mucking around. it is driven by an old car battery and has a polarity change over switch to open or close the clamp and this is operated when the wheel is in position after riding up onto the table  when it is in the lowered position.
The switch is on a flying lead so that I can be operated before dismounting from the bike, providing that you have somewhere to place .your feet to keep everything upright
I also made some  extra  table width supports from the table  top off cuts, in order to do this, and also so that I could place the ST. on its side stand if I did not want to use the lifting facility, This has the effect of raising the Mc a few inches which can be handy for some procedures etc.
Hope that this explains somewhat.
Cheers,
Winston 66
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: STeveo on July 28, 2013, 06:10:27 PM
Hold left handle bar in right hand and lean down to turn handle with left hand. When tight enough to hold can then tighten further with right hand.  If you wish to put onto centre stand (with front wheel in clamp), jack under sump until stand can be swung down and release jack. Reverse procedure to swing stand up. Make sure you have the screw down pads at the front taking some weight to prevent the whole unit rolling away as you push bike onto ramp.

 :bl11
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: saaz on July 28, 2013, 06:39:34 PM
Sounds very manageable.  Might also be good to store the old bike on to move out of the way of the others when needed, and I might even work on it to get it going again....
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: gaz on July 28, 2013, 06:54:22 PM
http://youtu.be/G2P32a9AQik (http://youtu.be/G2P32a9AQik)
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Sicman on July 28, 2013, 07:03:24 PM
Nice - Like that bike colour too  :thumb
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: winston66 on July 28, 2013, 07:04:21 PM
Winston66,
Another two or three or four photos to confuse you all
these attempt to show some detail of the motor driven wheel clamp and the extra movable table top sections.
Hope it makes some sense.
Cheers
Winston66
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Biggles on July 28, 2013, 08:42:08 PM
The clamp won't win any beauty contests, but a very practical solution to holding the bike while you get off it, and while you work on it.  I presume you add some tie-down arrangement to the rear for total security.

Great find, that wheelchair motor- integral gearbox and useful voltage.
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Yorkie on July 28, 2013, 08:57:22 PM
When I had a Vulcan many years ago, no centre stand, I got a lift from JB, or something similar, I recall made in Newcastle, he is a Ulysses member and advertise in their mag.
I told him the bike it was for, he went to local dealer for measurements and made it to fit.
With this I could lift the bike approx. 300mm under the engine.

Now I have a unit purchased from Malz about 3 years ago for about $350 from memory, looks very similar to the units on ebay, I put the bike on with side stand down, secure with tie-downs to get it upright, don't usually use the wheel clamp.
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Couch on July 28, 2013, 10:10:20 PM
Ingenious Winston :thumb but I need something that I can move around if I need to, and that unit looks a mite too heavy. Full marks though for coming up with such an effective method of clamping the front wheel. My plan however would be to build a couple of lightweight moveable platforms either side of the table, to the same height as the table in it's lowest position, so I could safely get off the bike once it's on the platform and place the bike on the side stand prior to putting it on the centre stand, then I don't really see a need for a front wheel clamp, . Could also strap the bike if necessary while lifting it to keep it steady then remove the straps once it's in it's final position, or they could be left attached if not in the way of whatever work is being carried out. For instance front straps could be left in place if taking out the back wheel, and vice versa :thumbsup.
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Couch on July 28, 2013, 10:35:07 PM
Hey Gaz........I've already had a look at the J&S Jack and they're a fantastic unit but they've got to be shipped in from the States. I'm actually waiting on a price from them but I've sort of ruled them out as the ST plastic bits extend below the frame under the ST so you'd have to make up some sort of adapter to fit between the bike and the lifter. J&S actually do this for the Gold Wing. They were originally designed to go under Harleys. Great bit of engineering though!!  I'll post up the price once I receive it from them! 
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Couch on July 28, 2013, 11:02:32 PM
Hi STeveo............many thanks mate, I've actually had a look at this one on ebay and it's great to have some feedback on it, it looks to be a perfect size for what I want. I'll see what they want to ship it down here to Wonderland :phone. 

PS: You're lucky to have had perfect riding weather today, we've had very cold weather recently and on the few good days we've had, I haven't been able to ride.

Couch, buy this one.
[url]http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-HYDRAULIC-MOTORCYCLE-LIFT-TABLE-PANEL-LIFTER-1000LB-/221140089413[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-HYDRAULIC-MOTORCYCLE-LIFT-TABLE-PANEL-LIFTER-1000LB-/221140089413[/url])

I bought one of these about two years ago and have had every thing on it from 50cc stepthrough, ST1100 to quad bikes. Works well and if used on a flat floor is very stable. The tyre clamp at the front needed to have a couple of washers under it to bring it up straight in line with the moveable piece. The tyre clamp needs to be done up tightly on a fully inflated tyre. You don't need to put the bike on the centre stand, but it does make wheel removing easier. When wheeling the ST onto the ramp I use a timber plank to keep me at right height for balance, a stronger person may not need to do this. The Chinese ones are quite good enough for home use, have even seen them used in bike shops, without the need to spend thousands of dollars for a professional quality unit.

Couch, when you ask for feedback you have to give us time to see you post. Today was perfect riding weather and that's what I did. I have only just now seen you post and replied.  :wink1

 :bl11
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: gaz on July 29, 2013, 05:37:37 PM
Hey Gaz........I've already had a look at the J&S Jack and they're a fantastic unit but they've got to be shipped in from the States. I'm actually waiting on a price from them but I've sort of ruled them out as the ST plastic bits extend below the frame under the ST so you'd have to make up some sort of adapter to fit between the bike and the lifter. J&S actually do this for the Gold Wing. They were originally designed to go under Harleys. Great bit of engineering though!!  I'll post up the price once I receive it from them!

 :well
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Shiney on July 29, 2013, 06:11:36 PM
winston 66,
 Hi Shiney,
If you look back at my previous post you should find some pictures, when looked at with reference to the write up it might be possible to understand what I was rambling on about.
It will all possibly be as clear as mud but should give some food for thought.
Incidentally the wheel clamp was constructed using an old (disused) wheel chair motor a scissor jack and a bit of mucking around. it is driven by an old car battery and has a polarity change over switch to open or close the clamp and this is operated when the wheel is in position after riding up onto the table  when it is in the lowered position.
The switch is on a flying lead so that I can be operated before dismounting from the bike, providing that you have somewhere to place .your feet to keep everything upright
I also made some  extra  table width supports from the table  top off cuts, in order to do this, and also so that I could place the ST. on its side stand if I did not want to use the lifting facility, This has the effect of raising the Mc a few inches which can be handy for some procedures etc.
Hope that this explains somewhat.
Cheers,
Winston 66

Wow that is an amazing bit of construction, it looks brilliant  :thumbsup :thumbs :clap

Thanks for shairing :-++

Cheers
Shiney
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: winston66 on July 29, 2013, 06:55:09 PM

 :candystwheelie :thumbs

Winston66,
Ok you lot ,if you reckon that my last effort at construction was brilliant.
Have a look at this.
I guess that some of my persona must have rubbed of on one of my young blokes as he came up with this one day whilst rebuilding the gearbox on this crotch rocket.
I subsequently awarded him the medal for the best  of inovations.
Cheers to all,
Winston66 :rd13    :think1 :hatwave
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Brock on July 29, 2013, 06:59:50 PM
I could be wrong, but that may be just on the edge of overkill. Good use of available resources but
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Couch on July 29, 2013, 07:31:33 PM
I emailed Radum to get a price for delivery to Tasmania and had a reply from them to say that they had a branch here in Hobart, so rang them and bugger me, they have one here on the floor, so I'm heading in there tomorrow to have a gander. It will take 360kgs (800lbs) and lift to 740mm, length is 1350mm + ramp 800mm x 470. Not quite as long or as wide as I'd like but to have one here in Tassie with a web site price of $363 and no delivery charge if picked up I just have to have a squiz at it!

There's a mob called RADUM here in Brissie who will ship anywhere in Oz.

[url=http://www.radum.com.au]www.radum.com.au[/url] ([url]http://www.radum.com.au[/url])

1300 172 386

They have a big range, including turn-tables, jacks, lifts etc.  All reasonably priced.

Offer 5% discount to bike club members.
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Biggles on July 29, 2013, 08:23:29 PM
It may be possible to weld on some checker plates to increase the size, provided you could keep the weight within limits.
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Couch on July 30, 2013, 07:42:18 PM
Well.........I shot in to Hobart with a couple of mates today to pick up a trailer my mate had sent from Melbourne, and while there we dropped in to "Radum" to have a look at the bike lift mentioned in my previous post, and it was just as I expected, too short in the table, (1350mm), to suit the ST.  Gary wilson, who manages the Tassie branch, said, "well you need our larger model".............what!! a larger model, it's not shown or listed on their website!!  Well, they do have a larger model which is a perfect size for the ST...........table length of 1800mm plus the length of the ramp, 570mm wide, with a minimum height of 220mm and a maximum of 760mm, it also has a very good wheel clamp, as well as this it can be raised by foot, or connected to a compressor and raised pneumatically, whilst they're made in China the quality is very good, with a safety bar that can be slid into place in case the hydraulic system fails.............and the best part of all!!!! they had one right there in stock...........$525 with our club discount. :runyay  We were already loaded up too much to fit it in the back of our vehicle, but it's all paid for, and I'll either pick it up in my trailer (147kgs), or I'll have it freighted to Nubeena (110kls), which shouldn't cost too much. Once I get it back here and set up I'll shoot a few pics and post them.  If anyone's looking for a decent lift table then have a look at this model...RDM SN0502A from RADUM!  :thumbsup   


Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Couch on July 30, 2013, 08:04:15 PM
Also had confirmation from J&S Jacks, that their Jacks are not suitable for ST1300s. 
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Biggles on July 30, 2013, 09:48:05 PM
Oddly enough, that product number doesn't appear on their website.

http://radum.com.au/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?Input.x=-865&Input.y=-142&Input=GO&keywords=motorcycle+lift (http://radum.com.au/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?Input.x=-865&Input.y=-142&Input=GO&keywords=motorcycle+lift)

Sounds like it's the right one for the job, if you like it enough to pay that kind of money for it Couch.

Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: ST.George on July 30, 2013, 10:02:30 PM

Here's a link 2 a bike lift that seems 2 b a copy of a jack from Tradequip.


(http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s616/_gregorypb/e42fc5b390a44ed7638f6267462c0738_zpsfb908fbf.jpg)

http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/SCA-Lift-ATV-680kg.aspx?pid=284935&utm_source=getprice&utm_medium=cpc#Cross (http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/SCA-Lift-ATV-680kg.aspx?pid=284935&utm_source=getprice&utm_medium=cpc#Cross)

Only $159. 680kg capacity. High lift.

Here's a link 2 a site with a video. Seems like the real deal.

http://www.bikerbits.com.au/adventures/boulevard_motorcycle_jack.shtml (http://www.bikerbits.com.au/adventures/boulevard_motorcycle_jack.shtml)
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Couch on July 30, 2013, 10:45:02 PM
I don't mind paying that much for it if it makes my job easier and safer. I do my own servicing so I save on the servicing costs, it makes it so much easier on the low back to take off the wheels etc if you're working at a reasonable height. I figure that sometime down the track if I no longer have the desire or inclination to work on my bike then it will simply be a matter of placing it on Gumtree here in Tazzie, and it will go in no time, I've never seen one advertised here, and I've been looking for a long time.

Oddly enough, that product number doesn't appear on their website.

[url]http://radum.com.au/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?Input.x=-865&Input.y=-142&Input=GO&keywords=motorcycle+lift[/url] ([url]http://radum.com.au/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?Input.x=-865&Input.y=-142&Input=GO&keywords=motorcycle+lift[/url])

Sounds like it's the right one for the job, if you like it enough to pay that kind of money for it Couch.


Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Couch on July 30, 2013, 11:04:51 PM
You would have to make up an some sort of adapter to use this on an ST as the plastic fairing extends lower than the frame. This is the same reason that J&S Jacks state that their Jacks are not suitable for STs! Thats not to say that it couldn't be done though. But for me, I'm happy to be paying a little more for something I'm sure is going to be more suitable.  I'm fortunate to have a large double garage as well as a large double carport so I have heaps of space to fit the lift table in without it being in the way. I'll post up pics when i have it set up.  "Radum" also have a Lift Jack with a 680Kg capacity for $95........check out their website, my mate brought one of them from "Radum" today and it looks great, he has a Yamaha XV 1300, without a centre stand and without any fairing to worry about getting in the way!!


Here's a link 2 a bike lift that seems 2 b a copy of a jack from Tradequip.


([url]http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s616/_gregorypb/e42fc5b390a44ed7638f6267462c0738_zpsfb908fbf.jpg[/url])

[url]http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/SCA-Lift-ATV-680kg.aspx?pid=284935&utm_source=getprice&utm_medium=cpc#Cross[/url] ([url]http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/SCA-Lift-ATV-680kg.aspx?pid=284935&utm_source=getprice&utm_medium=cpc#Cross[/url])

Only $159. 680kg capacity. High lift.

Here's a link 2 a site with a video. Seems like the real deal.

[url]http://www.bikerbits.com.au/adventures/boulevard_motorcycle_jack.shtml[/url] ([url]http://www.bikerbits.com.au/adventures/boulevard_motorcycle_jack.shtml[/url])
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Couch on July 30, 2013, 11:11:02 PM
 Mate, if you download their catalogue, you will find it on page 31 :grin

Oddly enough, that product number doesn't appear on their website.


Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: ST2UP on July 31, 2013, 06:49:07 AM
Winston66,  as Daryl Kerrigan say's.......You are an ideas man !!

Thanks for posting the pics


 :beer
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: STeveo on July 31, 2013, 08:24:54 AM
My table is 1800 long and that is plenty. Too long in the table length and you would be having to lean over the end to fit wheels. I have one of the small ones and don't like it for holding up a big bike, not enough width between the wheels for stability (I took them off), and no where to put tools handy.

 :bl11
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Biggles on July 31, 2013, 09:54:57 AM
Mate, if you download their catalogue, you will find it on page 31 :grin

Glad I was able to help out.  It was one of those fortuitous "things".  Radum sent me a flyer because I'm secretary of the CMA in Qld and then I saw your post and the rest is history!  (as they say)
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: ST.George on July 31, 2013, 09:59:08 AM
You would have to make up an some sort of adapter to use this on an ST as the plastic fairing extends lower than the frame. This is the same reason that J&S Jacks state that their Jacks are not suitable for STs! Thats not to say that it couldn't be done though. But for me, I'm happy to be paying a little more for something I'm sure is going to be more suitable.  I'm fortunate to have a large double garage as well as a large double carport so I have heaps of space to fit the lift table in without it being in the way. I'll post up pics when i have it set up.  "Radum" also have a Lift Jack with a 680Kg capacity for $95........check out their website, my mate brought one of them from "Radum" today and it looks great, he has a Yamaha XV 1300, without a centre stand and without any fairing to worry about getting in the way!!


Here's a link 2 a bike lift that seems 2 b a copy of a jack from Tradequip.


([url]http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s616/_gregorypb/e42fc5b390a44ed7638f6267462c0738_zpsfb908fbf.jpg[/url])

[url]http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/SCA-Lift-ATV-680kg.aspx?pid=284935&utm_source=getprice&utm_medium=cpc#Cross[/url] ([url]http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/SCA-Lift-ATV-680kg.aspx?pid=284935&utm_source=getprice&utm_medium=cpc#Cross[/url])

Only $159. 680kg capacity. High lift.

Here's a link 2 a site with a video. Seems like the real deal.

[url]http://www.bikerbits.com.au/adventures/boulevard_motorcycle_jack.shtml[/url] ([url]http://www.bikerbits.com.au/adventures/boulevard_motorcycle_jack.shtml[/url])



You're right Couch, there's nothing under there other than the sump plate to support a jack. I'll be interested to see how your system works when u post some photos.
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: winston66 on July 31, 2013, 11:38:20 AM
Winston66.
Thanks ST2UP and others for your comments and interest
That picture from St George of the small bike lift looks identical to the ones that I used ,except for the handle ,and I placed them back to back and then removing one of the jacks , handle, etc.
Then I joined them together at then floor level and again on the top with the plywood platform.
I considered that the lifting capacity of 680 Kg for one unit was more than adequate, and in use that was proven to be OK.
I think that the total cost to me for all materials etc was less than $400.00
Cheers, Winstin66
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: ST.George on July 31, 2013, 12:05:14 PM
G'day Winston66,


Winston66.
Thanks ST2UP and others for your comments and interest
That picture from St George of the small bike lift looks identical to the ones that I used ,except for the handle ,and I placed them back to back and then removing one of the jacks , handle, etc.
Then I joined them together at then floor level and again on the top with the plywood platform.
I considered that the lifting capacity of 680 Kg for one unit was more than adequate, and in use that was proven to be OK.
I think that the total cost to me for all materials etc was less than $400.00
Cheers, Winstin66


That sounds interesting. Next time u use it some photos would b good. Don't quite get why u would remove the jack and handle from the second jack. Don't u need a jack on both sides and then alternately pump one jack and then the other. And the purpose of the ply is to provide a large surface area to spread the weight over. Joining the 2 together provides stability over 8 wheels. Sounds practical 2 me.
  :clap  Is the bike still easily draggable and rotatable?



Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: winston66 on July 31, 2013, 12:42:20 PM
Winston66,
Hi St. George.
Have you seen the photos in my previous post.
To explain.
Firstly I wanted a really stable platform and I had the room to make a permanent workplace,
so the lifts are placed in line and bolted to the floor.and joined with two lengths of 50mm rt angle.With the handle and hydraulics removed from the second jack
By using two jacks placed in line the lifting mechanism  ie. the top the first jack being jointed to the top of the second jack by the ply platform pulls the full length of the platform   forwards.
The whole of the top stays level as it raises up, because all of the lifting arms move in unison as it(the tops of the jacks) are bolted into the platform
The table is rigid at the top and the first jacking mechanism pulls the second forward with it to lift the platform.
So there is only one jack to operate
and it all moves very simply,
And no..
 the lift table is a fixed item and I can not move it around the workshop.
If you can check the photos this explanation might make some sense (I hope).
Cheers,
Winston66
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Couch on July 31, 2013, 01:22:13 PM
Thank you Biggles for pointing me in the right direction and thank you to all who have contributed to my request. I'm having it delivered tomorrow and it's only costing $30 for freighting it down. I'm really keen to get it all set up and once I do so I'll post some pics. Incidentally, Sportsbike contacted me and they could do a "special deal" to have one sent to me in about forty days, "$2800" :eek..........I know their product is far superior to any others but too much for this little dicky bird!
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Couch on August 01, 2013, 10:42:14 PM
Well, the lift arrived late this afternoon so I've shot a couple of quick pics with the ipad so I can post them up this evening.
It arrived fairly well complete except for a few small items that were easily attached. I have to say, it's everything I'd hoped it would be. It appears to be very good quality, strong and sturdy. It has some very good features, the steel wheels at the head of the lift can be adjusted outward to measure 1 metre apart, increasing the stability, and the lift can be manouvered in every direction very easily.
It has a great front wheel clamp that should hold the wheel very well if required, although I don't know if I'll be using it as my intention will be to place the bike on the centre stand. You will notice in a couple of photos a couple of timber ramps, well, they're actually car ramps that I made sometime ago and it looks like I've found an additional use for them. They'll enable me to put my feet down if I cock it up while riding up the ramp, I intend to make some lighter weight extensions for them so I'll be able to place the bike on the centre stand before hopping off and then putting it on the centre stand. I'll just call them safety platforms!
I'm not sure how many pics I can post at a time............but here goes!! 

PS: the only one you won't see is with the bike on top...............that will have to come at a later date!
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Couch on August 01, 2013, 10:45:06 PM
Additional pics
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Biggles on August 01, 2013, 11:28:29 PM
Ride on, feet on the plates and Missus Couch (Clover?) comes and twists the wheel clamp into place and
Wallah!  Ready to drop the oil.
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Gavo on August 01, 2013, 11:48:13 PM
Looks like an excellent addition to the w/shop

Love the wooden ramps :thumb
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: STill dreaming on August 02, 2013, 07:13:59 AM
Ok not a bike lift as such but my work bench that i made myself to work on my GPZ the benifit is it has a built in engine lifter(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/GPZ900R/Noele/bench003.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/GPZ900R/media/Noele/bench003.jpg.html)(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/GPZ900R/Noele/bench002.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/GPZ900R/media/Noele/bench002.jpg.html)
And it's on wheels so i can move it about my shed even with the bike in place
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: STeveo on August 02, 2013, 08:08:45 AM
Couch, I cannot recommend riding onto the ramp as the painted steel surface doesn't have that much grip. See my previous posts re putting on centre stand and having the screw adjusters down to stop it running away. Please be very careful if you must ride your bike on.  >:()

 :bl11
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Couch on August 02, 2013, 08:58:05 AM
The ramps are fantastic Rob, I feel very safe climbing under our cars (mine, Vicki's and my sons) to service them. The oil filters on all of them can only be accessed from under the vehicle, just like the ST!! A pain in the bum actually!!   If I need to go a bit higher it's just a matter of sliding another length of timber under, and there you go!  :grin

Love the wooden ramps :thumb
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Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Couch on August 02, 2013, 09:02:10 AM
Looks great mate, I gather you lift the bike up!  Love the engine lifter!! :thumbsup

Ok not a bike lift as such but my work bench that i made myself to work on my GPZ the benifit is it has a built in engine lifter
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Couch on August 02, 2013, 09:32:49 AM
Thank you for your concern STeveo!  :-++

First up mate I have no intention of using it until I make up a couple of safety platforms so I can put either foot down to hold the bike upright. My thoughts are to ride up very slowly, slipping the clutch and walking the bike up the ramp with my feet on the car ramps and then on the platforms I intend to make. I'll also make very sure that the lift cannot slide on the floor before I make my first attempt. As an added precaution I intend to have a couple of friends with me in case I get into trouble. Thank's for your advice re the painted surface, I'll watch that carefully. One of my sons has a Honda CF 80cc and I'll give that a go first. While it's only a small bike, it will give me some idea of where I'm going with it. 
Once again, thank you to everyone who replied to my post and all going well sometime in the not too distant future you'll be able to view a pic of my bike on the lift!

Couch, I cannot recommend riding onto the ramp as the painted steel surface doesn't have that much grip. See my previous posts re putting on centre stand and having the screw adjusters down to stop it running away. Please be very careful if you must ride your bike on.  >:()

 :bl11
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Couch on August 03, 2013, 07:27:01 PM
I've finished my "safety platforms" such as they are, and given the lift a simple trial with my sons bike. I finished up using whiteboard that I had lying around for the platforms, and my intention is to cover them in a non slip material, such as lightweight rubber, thin carpet, or something similar. They measure 1225 from one edge to the other, and the lift is 600mm wide. You'll notice on one of the photos that I've also put a lip on the outer edges to give me extra purchase to help hold the bike upright if needed. The platforms are also fixed firmly to the lift so they can't slide away yet can be quickly and easily removed. I'm intending to cut a section out of the platform to make allowance for the side stand because it's too high for the stand to go down, I knew this would be necessary when making them up but I wanted the extra height so as I could get a good foot hold. That's the problem when one is vertically challenged. Not a problem though, I'll get into it with my trusty Dremel!

Just thought you might like to see further progress :grin
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Gavo on August 03, 2013, 07:34:17 PM
Absolutley fantastic set up  :thumbs
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Bluey on August 03, 2013, 09:48:15 PM
Very nice. I'm jealous.
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: tj189 on August 04, 2013, 07:08:51 AM
what a great setup  :clap :-++ yep must look at getting one now  >:()
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: STill dreaming on August 04, 2013, 08:09:04 AM
Looks great mate, I gather you lift the bike up!  Love the engine lifter!! :thumbsup

Ok not a bike lift as such but my work bench that i made myself to work on my GPZ the benifit is it has a built in engine lifter
Mate this was not built for quick little jobs but for total overhauls,getting the bike on top is a bit of a job,i load my bike onto the trailer then ramp the bike from there onto the table
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Couch on August 04, 2013, 11:43:47 AM
The main reason I've posted as many photos is that I thought it might give food for thought :think1 incidentally, the ramp is easily disconnected by simply sliding it away if needed to give access to the rear of the bike :grin

what a great setup  :clap :-++ yep must look at getting one now  >:()
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Gavo on August 04, 2013, 01:23:01 PM
Couch  Just incidently did you look at their Tyre changer while at Radium ?
Title: Re: bike lifts
Post by: Couch on August 05, 2013, 03:41:09 PM
No I didn't Rob but that's not to say I won't at a later date!  :grin

Couch  Just incidently did you look at their Tyre changer while at Radium ?