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Title: Cleaning Key Locks
Post by: StinkyPete on September 20, 2013, 05:13:40 PM
I copped a massive drenching with rain and road grime from trucks on the way home from Inverell.   Every nook and crannie on the bike needs to be cleaned and lubricated.   How can I best clean/lubricate the key tumblers on my ignition, glovebox, panniers etc?
Title: Re: Cleaning Key Locks
Post by: alans1100 on September 20, 2013, 05:19:43 PM
I copped a massive drenching with rain and road grime from trucks on the way home from Inverell.   Every nook and crannie on the bike needs to be cleaned and lubricated.   How can I best clean/lubricate the key tumblers on my ignition, glovebox, panniers etc?

Hi Pete, I would have though a bit of spray lube like WD40 or similar would have done.
Title: Re: Cleaning Key Locks
Post by: saaz on September 20, 2013, 05:21:16 PM
INOX is what a local locksmith recommended over WD40. I have used it in other applications (door hinges etc) and it does work well and for longer.
Title: Re: Cleaning Key Locks
Post by: Abe on September 20, 2013, 06:12:31 PM
Like Saaz said, I use CRC contact cleaner first then Inox.

Spray ingnition through the key slot and over time it should run out where your steering lock pin protudes.

All other locks just the same.

Cheers
Title: Re: Cleaning Key Locks
Post by: Icor on September 20, 2013, 06:22:03 PM
Old fisherman told me to use innox. Apparently it stands upto the effects of water much better then other products. He has used it for many years. Coats better and remains on better


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Title: Re: Cleaning Key Locks
Post by: StinkyPete on September 20, 2013, 06:23:05 PM
INOX is what a local locksmith recommended over WD40. I have used it in other applications (door hinges etc) and it does work well and for longer.

Will the INOX damage or mark the plastic?
Title: Re: Cleaning Key Locks
Post by: saaz on September 20, 2013, 06:59:11 PM
It should not. Some use it sprayed on the plastic, leave it then clean off to remove bugs etc.  Have to try that as I have a few bugs after the last trip, but Turtle bug and tar remover is a bit cheaper.

INOX is what a local locksmith recommended over WD40. I have used it in other applications (door hinges etc) and it does work well and for longer.

Will the INOX damage or mark the plastic?
Title: Re: Cleaning Key Locks
Post by: Biggles on September 21, 2013, 05:06:35 PM
Will the INOX damage or mark the plastic?

From the SupaCheap website:

INOX contains no silicon, acid, kerosene or dieselene
Will not harm metal points or surfaces, plastics, paints, enamels, fibreglass, formica or neoprene s
Doesn't become sticky, gooey or gum up
Non-conductive, non-static & non-corrosive

$12.72 for 300g pack
Title: Re: Cleaning Key Locks
Post by: nealeray on September 21, 2013, 06:12:45 PM
Gotta be happy about that.
Title: Re: Cleaning Key Locks
Post by: StinkyPete on September 21, 2013, 11:09:51 PM
INOX it will be then, for cleaning out my lock tumblers.  Thanks for the input.
Title: Re: Cleaning Key Locks
Post by: Bluey on September 22, 2013, 01:29:09 AM
Would Inox be better than WD40 for h/b switches?

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Title: Re: Cleaning Key Locks
Post by: Rodd on September 22, 2013, 12:44:06 PM
I reckon Inox is great stuff and would be good for cleaning and flushing the ignition switch (and other switches).. I'd prefer to keep it up tho because it's quite a thin lubricant, OR I would tend to give the inox enough time to thin out and then add some graphite powder. That's just my guess tho.
Title: Re: Cleaning Key Locks
Post by: Gatey on September 22, 2013, 07:47:02 PM
I used inox in the TDM..

Now I have a lock that grabs and feels half bogged.

I wont be doing that again any time soon.

First time in 100,000km of faut free service. Now I wonder why I bothered.
Title: Re: Cleaning Key Locks
Post by: Yorkie on September 22, 2013, 08:45:01 PM
In my limited experience any oil based lubricant will get gumbed up with dust particles etc, locksmiths use powdered graphite.
Title: Re: Cleaning Key Locks
Post by: Biggles on September 22, 2013, 09:03:55 PM
In my limited experience any oil based lubricant will get gumbed up with dust particles etc, locksmiths use powdered graphite.

How right you are!
All good locks use brass tumblers which relates well to graphite.  You can buy puffer packs of graphite at auto stores.
Title: Re: Cleaning Key Locks
Post by: Rodd on September 22, 2013, 09:11:36 PM
Is Inox oil based?
Title: Re: Cleaning Key Locks
Post by: Biggles on September 22, 2013, 09:14:41 PM
It appears to be Lanolin based, which is sheep grease.
Title: Re: Cleaning Key Locks
Post by: nealeray on September 23, 2013, 08:30:28 PM
Mmmmm, sheep grease. Very popular in NZ I believe.  :nahnah
Title: Re: Cleaning Key Locks
Post by: Gavo on September 23, 2013, 08:34:10 PM
Also contained in Barrier Cream  (Lanolin)

Title: Re: Cleaning Key Locks
Post by: Panman50 on October 01, 2013, 10:11:16 PM
Hi all, I used to sell Inox and I reckon it would be one of the best lubes on the market.
Reasons are:
There is two on the market but the one you should be using is paraffin based so it can be used in kitchens as it is food grade but it also cleans as well as lubes.
It's safe to use on electronics and in fact I have been told the air force even use it on their jets. (unconfirmed)
It can be used to clean road tar off vehicles.
You can use it to polish alloys. (with super fine steel wool)
It lasts a little longer than some of the hydrocarbon products because it's paraffin based and doesn't evaporate as quick.
Locksmiths use it to clean the fine brass particles from locks and to lube at the same time.
That's just to name a few so it should do your locks no problem at all.
The Lanolin based Inox is best used in areas where it is not exposed as it is much thicker and stickier so it will hang on to dirt but it' great if you need to use in marine situations.
Sorry to ramble but that must be the salesman coming out, (no not a car salesman)
Anyway I hope this info helps,
Regards,
Panman50.
Title: Re: Cleaning Key Locks
Post by: Brock on October 01, 2013, 10:43:39 PM
What is the name of the paraffin product???
Title: Re: Cleaning Key Locks
Post by: StinkyPete on October 02, 2013, 08:08:41 AM
What is the name of the paraffin product???


I'm guessing it may be this one  http://www.inoxmx.com/inox/mx3-lubricant-good-grade/ (http://www.inoxmx.com/inox/mx3-lubricant-good-grade/)   but as a past salesman, Panman50 may be able to confirm.
Here's the MSDS  http://www.inoxmx.com/wp-content/uploads/MX3-MSDS-INOX-mx3-FG-Aerosol-AUSTRALIA-Food-Grade.pdf (http://www.inoxmx.com/wp-content/uploads/MX3-MSDS-INOX-mx3-FG-Aerosol-AUSTRALIA-Food-Grade.pdf)
Paraffin is a generic term that usually covers a whole range of oils and waxes (Wiki), and note the warning on the Inox web page that it may effect natural rubber compounds.
Title: Re: Cleaning Key Locks
Post by: beatup on October 02, 2013, 09:08:16 AM
Couple of mechanics have said don't use the stickier sprays. They combine with dust and make a mud in the barrel. Graphite, you cam sharpen a pencil and use the dust. Abrasive action keeps the barrel and key clean.
Title: Re: Cleaning Key Locks
Post by: Biggles on October 02, 2013, 09:30:37 AM
Couple of mechanics have said don't use the stickier sprays. They combine with dust and make a mud in the barrel. Graphite, you cam sharpen a pencil and use the dust. Abrasive action keeps the barrel and key clean.

You don't even have to find a pencil and sharpener (rare these days).
Puffer packs of fine graphite are cheap at the auto stores and last for many years.
Title: Re: Cleaning Key Locks
Post by: Panman50 on October 02, 2013, 02:30:55 PM
I just checked out that link, interestingly something over the years must have happened as the original used to be food grade but now they have th MX3 FG for food.

It's still called Inox original lubricant mx3 formula, the one on the link is mx3 FG.
You can get a aerosol can from most auto stores or Bunnings for around $10- $15.
I still reckon the best lube on the market
P.s. The Lanolin version is a pale blue can and has Lanolin clearly on the front.

Regards,
Panman50