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Title: Does anyone use this?
Post by: Marcus on October 08, 2013, 03:26:36 PM
I don't think I've ever used it

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Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: Sicman on October 08, 2013, 03:48:38 PM
I only use the bottom half to start her  :wink1
Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: Shiney on October 08, 2013, 04:00:10 PM
:think1   Nope
Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: StinkyPete on October 08, 2013, 04:13:20 PM
 :think1   Nope again
Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: Abe on October 08, 2013, 04:15:54 PM
You should be using it Gentlemen, you don't wont dirty contacts too form and create a "gremlin" in the electrical system do we.

That's my theory,  so, I will read with interest members thoughts about my thoughts.
Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: Sicman on October 08, 2013, 04:18:16 PM
Oooh - dirty thoughts  :o :grin
Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: Brock on October 08, 2013, 05:58:36 PM
Always, that way I always turn it on before starting the bike. Cant be tricked by the kill switch off prank....
Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: Streak on October 08, 2013, 06:19:37 PM
I try to use it every trip, for that dirty contacts reason, don't like surprises!
Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: alans1100 on October 08, 2013, 06:25:37 PM
Usually when I need to park the bike in gear I'll hit the kill switch and release the clutch b4 turning off the key. Then panic sets in when the bike won't start.......lol.

Other than that I test it every few weeks
Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: Biggles on October 08, 2013, 06:28:53 PM
I'm with Alan.  It's a handy "hands on the bars" way to shut down, but then I try to remember to reset it after I turn the key off to avoid that "my bike won't start" panic.
Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: Abe on October 08, 2013, 07:31:13 PM
Very easy to remember, if its "not on, its not on" our work training saying.
Not that many, members remember that simple thing.
Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: Marcus on October 08, 2013, 07:34:21 PM
Does it do anything different? like shut off all electrics in a proper fashion etc.

I mean something other then on and off, like what the Key does
Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: Brock on October 08, 2013, 07:55:22 PM
Just kills the ignition, the electrics are still on
Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: ST2UP on October 08, 2013, 09:02:28 PM
Very easy to remember, if its "not on, its not on" our work training saying.
Not that many, members remember that simple thing.
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"If it's not on it's not on" was used in my work enviroment aswell when I was at Paddington and covered the Cross......but I guess that was for a different reason.... :nahnah


As far as kill switch every few shut downs.........for the use it or loose it reason



 :beer
Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: Biggles on October 08, 2013, 09:04:41 PM
Very easy to remember, if its "not on, its not on" our work training saying.
Not that many, members remember that simple thing.

Where do you work?  I thought that advice was in regards to condoms!    Wot thuh
Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: gaz on October 08, 2013, 09:07:09 PM
I don't think I've ever used it

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 :fp how do you stop the   :wht13 then?
Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: Biggles on October 08, 2013, 09:09:33 PM
:fp how do you stop the   :wht13 then?

Front and rear disk brakes.
Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: Sicman on October 08, 2013, 09:10:30 PM
 :grin :grin :rofl
Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: gaz on October 08, 2013, 10:33:37 PM
:grin :grin :rofl

 :well
Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: alans1100 on October 09, 2013, 01:44:38 AM
Does it do anything different? like shut off all electrics in a proper fashion etc.

I mean something other then on and off, like what the Key does


I often wondered why the ST has a kill switch as it has a bank angle sensor which does what I think the kill switch was originally meant for.


http://motorcycleviews.com/general/seventhings_2.htm (http://motorcycleviews.com/general/seventhings_2.htm)

A Bike Has a KILL Switch

Cars don't have KILL switches. The closest you can come is to turn off the ignition. On a motorcycle, a KILL switch has several purposes.

The motorcycle KILL (or STOP) switch is in series with the ignition switch. When the KILL switch is open, the motorcycle will not start.

Most motorcycle training courses suggest that you get in the habit of using the motorcycle KILL switch to shut off your bike. The reasoning is that if you don't use it, it won't work when you need to use it.

Much confusion occurs in traffic when you inadvertently trip the KILL switch and then can't figure out why the bike won't restart. Always look at the KILL switch first.

You may need to use the KILL switch if your bike falls over and you can't reach the ignition. Just trip the KILL switch. KILL switches are also known as RUN or STOP switches.
Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: Sicman on October 09, 2013, 08:05:54 AM
:grin :grin :rofl

 :well
Sorry Gaz - But it tickled me funny bone :rofl
Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: Couch on October 09, 2013, 08:33:45 AM
When I purchased my bike new from Pro Honda and they were giving me a run down on the bike, they of course showed me the kill switch, but they suggested that I should always stop they bike by turning off the key as the kill switch was only for stopping the motor in an emergency, such as the bike going over and not wanting to take ones hands off the grips. Their reasoning was that by using it all the time it could create a problem within the switch and the bike just mightn't start. Consequently I've only ever used it once, when my bike went down in wet grass and I needed to kill the motor chop! chop! My previous bike, Yamaha XVS 1100, had a kill switch and I did use it occasionally, but I did find it frustrating sometimes when going to start the bike that the bloody thing wouldn't start, of course the penny would finally drop, and I would remember I'd hit the kill switch and it was still in off position. I've just gotten into the habit now of never using it, and hope I never have to repeat my previous reason for using it again. :grin
Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: STeveo on October 09, 2013, 03:16:27 PM
1, too difficult to get to with thumb over the throttle lock.

2, stopping on hill, hold clutch in and put down side stand = engine stop.

3, don't want to wear it out.

4, don't wish to get caught with switch off and cranking engine with no spark.

But otherwise I don't use it other than when doing maintainence.
Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: saaz on October 09, 2013, 03:55:56 PM
Same as Steveo pretty well.  I spray and clean the switches at least every year, so at least make sure it works.
Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: atoyot on October 09, 2013, 07:54:17 PM
I just noticed that when I put a bit of pressure on the bottom of the kill switch, it cuts the engine as well. I first did it accidentally, then when the engine cut, I worked out I must have bumped the switch, but not to the off position. Maybe a faulty switch?
Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: Biggles on October 09, 2013, 08:08:20 PM
Sounds like a dodgy switch.  Mine is solid.

And I'll bet you found that out trying the bottom of the switch after Sicman's little joke:

"I only use the bottom half to start her."
Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: royst1100 on October 10, 2013, 05:21:51 PM
mine gave out at the most awkward time an is now bypassed. i just use side stand as i don't leave out of gear
Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: atoyot on October 10, 2013, 05:37:11 PM
Sounds like a dodgy switch.  Mine is solid.

And I'll bet you found that out trying the bottom of the switch after Sicman's little joke:

"I only use the bottom half to start her."

Maybe a bit dodgy, and not sure if anything inside it is serviceable, but I'll pull it apart and check it out. Thought it might have been a feature as it is momentary off, but can't think of a use for it....

Actually, no, I bumped it on Tuesday on a ride down the Oxley, but I can see the irony :-[
Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: Williamson on October 10, 2013, 06:20:25 PM
........Most motorcycle training courses suggest that you get in the habit of using the motorcycle KILL switch to shut off your bike.....
:thumbsup

In an earlier life (from the early 1980's to the mid-1990's) I was an RTA/VicRoads rider trainer.  The rider training course introduced by the RTA was based on (copied from?) the UK Motorcycle Operator Skill Test (MOST) training course.  (I understand that the courses currently run by HART, Armstrongs, DECA, and probably others is still based on the MOST course.)

Anyway, part of the course involved instructions on how to start a motorbike (remember we were dealing with some real newbies), and this involved the FINE technique.

The theory behind the FINE technique was that if the bike didn't start, everything was not "fine".

A free beer :beer (at Metung on Saturday 19 or at Ballarat next March) to the first response that knows / remembers / works out what FINE means.

Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: Hendo on October 10, 2013, 06:54:36 PM
Fuel
Ignition
Neutral
Engine cut off

 8)
Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: Hendo on October 10, 2013, 06:56:40 PM
Actually I remember a C on the end for Choke....

Been a few years though.
Title: Re: Does anyone use this?
Post by: Williamson on October 10, 2013, 07:07:03 PM
Fuel
Ignition
Neutral
Engine cut off

 8)
:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

To be precise:
Fuel = fuel "on" - remember we all had fuel valves in those days
Ignition = ignition "on" -D'oh
Neutral = "engage" neutral
Engine cut off - to "run" position

A beer coming your way Hendo.  I see you are just around the corner, I might be able to drop it off on my way to work tomorrow.

 :beer :beer :beer :beer
Actually I remember a C on the end for Choke....

Been a few years though.
Yep!  FINE-C, where C=choke - I'd forgot that bit, but I have not had a choke for ten years.