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OzSTOC Ride Reports, Pictures & Videos => Pictures & Video's and Games => Topic started by: Marcus on November 29, 2013, 11:53:06 AM
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2wG90QlZSU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2wG90QlZSU#)
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The TV comment says he's developing engines that run on petrol and water. Why bother with the petrol aspect if water is all that's needed?
HHO? Presumably a brand name, since it's essentially another way of writing H2O.
Sadly, these things always disappear in a cloud of conspiracy claims that the petroleum industry has bought the rights, and will release it when they run out of petrol to sell.
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A flame that is hot enough to melt steel, but instantly won't destroy flesh. What kind of mad physics is that?
He is shown pouring a clear liquid into a tank, supposedly somehow related to the supply of energy to the welding tip. Show me him pouring water into a gas cylinder and pressurising it to flow down the line to the tip. What process creates HHO? From the demo you'd have to deduce the hydrogen and oxygen gases are present together in the tank, but only recombine on combustion. Yep- that's hydrogen power. Been around for a while.
Maybe you could step away from the computer for a couple of hours and help OzSTOC get the formula, Marcus! :thumbsup
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to separate the HH and th O is easy, just takes a few volts. The problem lies with producing enough to be useful. Its a Very slow process, so unless the unit has been running for a few hours, and contains a compressor to store the gasses produced with enough pressure to produce a hot flame for the time needed to cut or weld, then its not practical.
Also the energy required to make usable quantities is pretty high, (you need a mains supply, and regulated voltage supply) so the costs start to mount.
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And here I was about to put on my tin-foil hat, grab my pitchfork and start screaming "Conspiracy" at the nearest oil company...
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Just found this.
http://www.talkingelectronics.com/FrameworkPages/Run%20Your%20Car%20On%20Water.pdf (http://www.talkingelectronics.com/FrameworkPages/Run%20Your%20Car%20On%20Water.pdf)
Edit edit **** Apparently this guy was full of doodoo
Like Brock said it's called Brown Gas or something like that and it does take more energy to create it so isn't worth the trouble.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/alternative-fuel/gas-mileage/4276846 (http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/alternative-fuel/gas-mileage/4276846)
I do like the concept though
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Brown Gas
I have a tendancy to make quite a lot that during myself.....
Just havnt found a way to bottle it yet.
thinking to ones self better use stainless glass might dissolve.
Tipsy
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This is a similar concept
http://www.hhokitsdirect.com/ (http://www.hhokitsdirect.com/)
I have an old L300 4WD drive that has had the original 1800 cc engine replaced with a 2600 cc engine it is great, performs well and goes any where but is thirsty.
I have purchased one of these kits and hopefully shall install it early next. I have spoken to two people who have use this idea and they were getting some good results.
Search for "Joe Cell" on google for some more reading. Remember people once thought the world was flat and it is only 100 years ago that no one thought we could fly let alone fly to the moon.
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mr joe cell lives in north NSW there have a been a few cars running round for years, biggest problem was getting water clean and "clean" canisters for energy. a lot of experimenters gave up with the time and energy needed. the man himself kept quiet and out of sight to avoid the "authorities"
well that's what i heard from those working on the units. there have been a few commercially available units around but would need work.
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This is a similar concept
[url]http://www.hhokitsdirect.com/[/url] ([url]http://www.hhokitsdirect.com/[/url])
I have an old L300 4WD drive that has had the original 1800 cc engine replaced with a 2600 cc engine it is great, performs well and goes any where but is thirsty.
I have purchased one of these kits and hopefully shall install it early next. I have spoken to two people who have use this idea and they were getting some good results.
The claimed figures are impressive:
http://www.hhokitsdirect.com/HHO_mileage_results.php (http://www.hhokitsdirect.com/HHO_mileage_results.php)