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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: ST.George on December 29, 2013, 05:40:37 PM
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On a recent ride my riding buddy suggested, (a hot day), to remove gloves and let air flow up the arms of the jackets. So I gave it a try even tho I know gloves on is the go, the coolness was gr8 but also the unexpected side-effect was a sensation of much less vibration on the handgrips - in other words a smoother handlebar ride. This is insane! Gloves should decrease vibration. Maybe I have crap gloves but they feel really comfortable on and fit perfectly. However, the two-hour ride home was the nicest ride I have had and there were no gloves and no buzzy vibration. Does anyone have anti-vibration gloves that claims a gr8 anti-vibration grip experience?
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:popcorn :popcorn
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Sounds electrical to me. :grin
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Don't know what you're talking about, white bikes don't vibrate!! :grin
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It's not being caused by your gloves being too tight, pinching a nerve or restricting blood flow is it?
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Try motorcycle mittens it's like going gloveless but still with some safety for your hands. I've got a pair and I love them, but there not for all day riding as your hands will get sunburnt
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Sounds electrical to me. :grin
Leather gloves are a weak insulator to electrical current so what r u saying? Is this impedance or impudence? Can't be impedance coz it's a direct current circuit. Conclusion - you're tugging my leg aren't u Bill. :grin
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It's not being caused by your gloves being too tight, pinching a nerve or restricting blood flow is it?
U might b onto something there Shiney. They r very tight coz I have broad but not long hands and usually buy gloves one size 2 small so the finger lengths r right. Also, it's always nice 2 take them off. Yes, I think that's it. Good thinking - thnx v.much.
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Try motorcycle mittens it's like going gloveless but still with some safety for your hands. I've got a pair and I love them, but there not for all day riding as your hands will get sunburnt
Thnx Sabie - any particular brand and r they available in Oz? Don't get why sunburn is a prob - r they made from clear material or some kind of mesh?
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It's not being caused by your gloves being too tight, pinching a nerve or restricting blood flow is it?
U might b onto something there Shiney. They r very tight coz I have broad but not long hands and usually buy gloves one size 2 small so the finger lengths r right. Also, it's always nice 2 take them off. Yes, I think that's it. Good thinking - thnx v.much.
Yay I was helpful :runyay :grin
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Don't know what you're talking about, white bikes don't vibrate!! :grin
Yes, Couch you're right - but red bikes actually start!! :grin
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It's the way they do up. I have dririders fingerless gloves. Notice the hole that's left after doing the glove up.
(http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/pmdodds1/Stuff/fb1080de447a812b2c8011c75118ae6a_zps47e3212f.jpg)
(http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/pmdodds1/Stuff/7e371953778c68517a2e0e2304a85a8c_zps17a36574.jpg)
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OUCH :eek
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It's the way they do up. I have dririders fingerless gloves. Notice the hole that's left after doing the glove up.
Yes, I see what u mean. Careful with that - it could deteriorate into a melanoma. Calling them mittens tho is what threw me. I have a set of mittens that can b worn with or without gloves as well for extra warmth if required. Can't find them at the moment, maybe I'm just dreaming I had a pair but this is what I mean:
(http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s616/_gregorypb/8a1d5cf4b8aae8aa83f624575cecd379_zps87add1be.jpg)
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It's not being caused by your gloves being too tight, pinching a nerve or restricting blood flow is it?
Chin strap too tight? :wink1 :wink1
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It's not being caused by your gloves being too tight, pinching a nerve or restricting blood flow is it?
Chin strap too tight? :wink1 :wink1
Yeah, way too tight. Obviously blood flow has been severely restricted to my brain if I bought gloves that r 2 tight.
However, the circulation problems r accentuated by my heart problems from last year. I had some minor arteries clogged with cholesterol which brought on a heart attack. The op cleared the worst artery so well that I didn't need a stent. My circulation now tho, is nothing like it used to be and I am trying to boost my system with medicines and exercise that includes motorcycle riding. So, in days gone by, tight gloves wouldn't have been an issue but now they are. So that is my excuse for being so stupid. Luckily, Shiney revealed my error and now the vibrations will be gone forever. Whoopee!!!
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Luckily, Shiney revealed my error and now the vibrations will be gone forever. Whoopee!!!
Darn. I thought for a minute I would get a more enjoyable ride if I left the gloves at home.
Hard to beat the smooth V4 though, with or without gloves.
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Luckily, Shiney revealed my error and now the vibrations will be gone forever. Whoopee!!!
Darn. I thought for a minute I would get a more enjoyable ride if I left the gloves at home.
Hard to beat the smooth V4 though, with or without gloves.
You're not wrong Biggles, one of the very best consumer motorcycle engines ever made IMHO. Will go down in motorcycle history one day right up there with the Honda 750 4.
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The times I've ridden Gloveless was horrible. Although Cooler, but horrible.
The way I ride is sort of holding the throttle at a point but letting the gloves kind of do a grip pinch thing allowing my fingers free to move about, while resting my hand on the throttle. It saves me getting tired/crampy hands. If that makes sense?
Riding without means I need to grip the throttle.
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Yeah you're right Marcus - if u have a gr8 circulation. :OldMan
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Hey Gregory,
Ride a Yamaha MT-01 with or without gloves, you will get no vibration at all. I prefer to call it "shaking", and I'm sure that would have to be good for circulation. :thumbs :grin
Don't feel too bad about having gloves that might have been too tight, as it is pretty common; leather gloves do give, but sometimes in hot weather your hands will swell more than your gloves will allow.
I know I saw somewhere in a mag recently, a device that you can fit to your sleeve to open it us to the breeze. Alternatively, use gloves with little or no cuff (with the aforementioned device if I can find reference to it......)
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Still looking for a reference to the above mentioned device and I must declare a caveat for riding with gaps that allow the ingress of small stinging insects. Once a million years ago, I used to have a bit to do with OHS for an organisation that employs lots of riders. I used to love reading the OHS reports, and one pair of reports (directly one after the other) was "bee entered postsmans left pant leg while riding in shorts - injury: swollen left testicle". Very next one was postman brushed through bushes and lost control and crashed - Injury: abrasions and swollen right testicle from bee sting". :fp I always hoped it wasn't the same guy :fp
Now back to looking up this thing I got sidetracked from.
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G'day Andrew,
Went over to Shellharbour the other day to try on some Alpinestar gloves that were about 1/2 price thru Gumtree. My DriRider Aero gloves r size L and the Alpinestars were XL. The 30km ride was a dud tho coz the XL gloves were considerably tighter than my size Ls. Different brands seem to be different sizes. Leather gloves do stretch over time, maybe that's why these newish gloves were very tight.
So on the way home I dropped into the STealer and tried on heaps of different brands and found all sorts of variations in different brands. Then I had a glove epiphany. My gloves have a Velcro adjuster on the top and bottom of each glove:
(http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s616/_gregorypb/45adf4691c66b4a52186f0e5fefb3164_zpse193fb4a.jpg)
Without thinking about it, I was in the habit of pulling both of these quite tight with the result of restricting blood at the wrists and thereby starving my fingers of a full blood supply and the consequent tingles that I mistook as handlebar vibrations. How ridiculously simple a mistake to make.
So over the next few weeks I'm going to wear the gloves around home (in the vain hope of not providing the world with more evidence to prove my insanity) to try and stretch them more and on a ride use the loosest adjustment on the wrists.
So this device you're talking about funnels air into your jacket sleeves. Sounds cool (Nuck, Nuck). A jacket farkle - whoopee! :clap
BTW Andrew, you were on your way to get a MCCruise installed at Dale McKleans. I know they cost $984 2 buy but how much does it cost to install. I have sent 4 the installation manual and m considering installing the cruise myself depending on how clear the instructions r.
Hope your ribs r better so I won't tell u any gr8 jokes (not that I know any) so as 2 cause unnecessary pain.
M also considering going 2 Phillip Island this year not ever having done anything like that b4 (other than going 2 the Bathurst bike races once 25 years ago). Can u thro up a tent somewhere and make a cheapish weekend of it?
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The MCC instructions are crystal clear and comprehensive. I managed it, although I spent a whole day on it. The set up procedure is also fully explained.
Dear to buy, but invaluable for the life of the bike. Saves fatigue, and potentially, your licence. Will hold speed right down to 40 kph.
I usually cut the adjuster tab off my gloves. Just another hold up keeping me from going riding.
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In hotter weather I use off road gloves like Fox. Not as good as protection as my leather summer gloves, but far more comfortable heat wise. As I tend to sweat a lot more than normal I tend to destroy leather gloves in hot weather, and even the off road gloves don't last more than a year.
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Methinks the problem is the grip.
Gloveless you are using a more relaxed grip
Bit of extra tension when the gloves are on because of a lack of feel.
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BTW Andrew, you were on your way to get a MCCruise installed at Dale McKleans. I know they cost $984 2 buy but how much does it cost to install. I have sent 4 the installation manual and m considering installing the cruise myself depending on how clear the instructions r.
Hope your ribs r better so I won't tell u any gr8 jokes (not that I know any) so as 2 cause unnecessary pain.
M also considering going 2 Phillip Island this year not ever having done anything like that b4 (other than going 2 the Bathurst bike races once 25 years ago). Can u thro up a tent somewhere and make a cheapish weekend of it?
PM sent
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Methinks the problem is the grip.
Gloveless you are using a more relaxed grip
Bit of extra tension when the gloves are on because of a lack of feel.
Agreed Ian, less grip required bcoz skin and a good handgrip surface have near perfect non-slip contact (providing, of course that the hands r not covered in sweat 4 any reason). Xtra pressure must b applied bcoz of the glove thickness and this decreases blood circulation. Therefore, even perfect fitting gloves r not as good as no gloves when it comes 2 circulation. But 4 perfectly healthy riders it is of no consequence.
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Really? I think it's the opposite. Gloves mean you can keep pressure without needing to grip. More traction with glove to handle IMO
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I don't doubt u Marcus but there is a quandary here - glove more grip - glove less grip? I think the answer is self-judgement of your conditions and what works. I know what I'm going 2 do but your physiology tells u that my situation is wrong. Wassail your judgement!
U R right 4 U.
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Slightly off on a tangent, but the cooling breeze was mentioned :H , and this is what I saw reference to:-
http://www.ventz-range.com/ (http://www.ventz-range.com/)
Look pretty stupid, specially in the more garish colours, but I'm sure they'd provide some relief on real hot days with not very well vented or non-mesh jackets. There is a distributor in Aust, but they are $29.99 plus postage.
Sound like a reasonable idea, but I won't be testing them out,
Andrew
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Hey Andrew,
An interesting idea but I don't know whether I want uncomfortable looking sleeve inserts either.
One thing that I have found 2 b effective is the LDComfort riding t-shirt with long sleeves. The instructions say 2 wet the sleeves and any breeze that gets up the arms of your jacket creates an evaporative cooling effect. This garment also takes the perspiration off the upper-body and creates the cooling effect that way as well. Just needs a rinse and hang at the end of the day to refresh for the next day's riding.
I tried this out last summer when I had a leather jacket only and it worked OK, but now I have a summer textile jacket with removable lining which I will b using on the way 2 Ballarat. I reckon it will b gr8 in really hot conditions.
Now 2 solve the hot seat problem! :think1
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I tend to ride in a similar fashion Marcus particularly if I've been riding for over an hour or two, I try to ride with as light a grip as possible. But, vibration, don't know what you're talking about???? :grin
The times I've ridden Gloveless was horrible. Although Cooler, but horrible.
The way I ride is sort of holding the throttle at a point but letting the gloves kind of do a grip pinch thing allowing my fingers free to move about, while resting my hand on the throttle. It saves me getting tired/crampy hands. If that makes sense?
Riding without means I need to grip the throttle.