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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: spanner on February 26, 2014, 06:38:02 AM

Title: math is not my strong point - fuel economy
Post by: spanner on February 26, 2014, 06:38:02 AM
As stated in the subject above Mathamatics and I are not friends   :spank  ... we rarely see eye to eye on anything other than the cost of a schooner of beer.

I am trying to work out a conversion from the KM's per Liter you people are talking on the forum into to liters per 100KM..... its so I can compare the car we have Vs. the impending STeed I am going to own.

sooooo .......     if you say you are getting 15 km's to the liter does that equate to 1.5 liters per 100 km's??

Not sure if that sounds right to me.   :think1 :think1 ...........    :fp   god I hate Math!

please put me out of my miserey
Title: Re: math is not my strong point - fuel economy
Post by: BigTed on February 26, 2014, 07:07:25 AM
Don't worry - I had to use a conversion app on my phone to validate the formula. I didn't want to post a wrong.

Divide 100 by your 15 km/litre...

100/15 = 6.67 litres per 100km
Title: Re: math is not my strong point - fuel economy
Post by: StinkyPete on February 26, 2014, 07:24:39 AM
Spanner, you may find the thread below to be useful as well, as it discusses fuel range calculations.    My ST1300 returns an average of  5.4 litres per hundred kilometers, over a wide range of conditions an speeds. and this is probably pretty typical.

http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=3070.msg31170#msg31170 (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=3070.msg31170#msg31170)
Title: Re: math is not my strong point - fuel economy
Post by: spanner on February 26, 2014, 09:18:51 AM
 :-++ :-++

thank you thank you thank you

What was the app you used BigTed?
Title: Re: math is not my strong point - fuel economy
Post by: BigTed on February 26, 2014, 09:25:40 AM
No probs - it's "ConvertPad" by "Sunny Moon" - in the Android appstore.
Title: Re: math is not my strong point - fuel economy
Post by: West Aussie Glen on February 26, 2014, 10:11:45 AM
Spanner I use an excel spread sheet.
If you are familiar with them I would be happy to email you one with what ever figures you want it to show. Just insert distance and amount of fuel used. Can also use it to keep a running total of fuel costs
Title: Re: math is not my strong point - fuel economy
Post by: Brock on February 26, 2014, 01:02:18 PM
I use this spread sheet, it can be adjusted to suit

https://www.dropbox.com/s/f9engrv3ldj7dzz/Bike%20fuel%202011.xls (https://www.dropbox.com/s/f9engrv3ldj7dzz/Bike%20fuel%202011.xls)
Title: Re: math is not my strong point - fuel economy
Post by: West Aussie Glen on February 26, 2014, 01:30:05 PM
I can't get that link to work  :-[
Title: Re: math is not my strong point - fuel economy
Post by: Biggles on February 26, 2014, 01:57:35 PM
I use this spread sheet, it can be adjusted to suit

https://www.dropbox.com/s/f9engrv3ldj7dzz/Bike%20fuel%202011.xls (https://www.dropbox.com/s/f9engrv3ldj7dzz/Bike%20fuel%202011.xls)

Yer racking up the kays just commuting, Brock! 
You use more petrol than my Missus in her weekly commute in the Camry.

Title: Re: math is not my strong point - fuel economy
Post by: spanner on February 26, 2014, 05:04:47 PM
W.A.G. 

Yeah I'd love to check out your excel spreadsheet.

Ill PM you my email.

Cheers
Title: Re: math is not my strong point - fuel economy
Post by: Pezzz on February 26, 2014, 06:20:20 PM
I can't get that link to work  :-[
Me neither Brock
Title: Re: math is not my strong point - fuel economy
Post by: Brock on February 26, 2014, 06:39:27 PM
It works for me,  the page is pretty plain, with a blue button to click on for download.
Title: Re: math is not my strong point - fuel economy
Post by: Brock on February 26, 2014, 07:04:00 PM
Here is a new updated version, click on the link and download it.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53770433/Bike%20fuel.xls
Title: Re: math is not my strong point - fuel economy
Post by: Pezzz on February 26, 2014, 07:33:48 PM
got it now.
Thanks
Title: Re: math is not my strong point - fuel economy
Post by: Brock on February 26, 2014, 08:00:09 PM
Use the sheet labelled 2014 to enter the new data.

The sheet fuel 2014 will show all the calculations
Title: Re: math is not my strong point - fuel economy
Post by: Gadget on February 26, 2014, 09:18:32 PM
 :rockon Brock.  Like it a lot.  :clap
Title: Re: math is not my strong point - fuel economy
Post by: spanner on February 27, 2014, 09:34:49 AM
 :-++ :-++ :-++ .... Glen and Brock ..... you guys are amazing!    :clap :clap :thumbsup :thumb

 :Chocies and  :beer  to both of you ...... now to conduct trials on which one I will use ......    :think1 :CB--
Title: Re: math is not my strong point - fuel economy
Post by: Old Steve on February 27, 2014, 09:36:17 AM
Both L/100 km and km/L confuse me.  I really only have a concept of fuel usgae if it's in miles per gallon.

5.5 L/100km
= 18.2 km/L
= 51 mpg - ah, that's not bad at all
Title: Re: math is not my strong point - fuel economy
Post by: TAZZIEBAZ on February 27, 2014, 09:57:27 AM
FYI........I've averaged 20.6kls per litre for the past 26,000kls, with almost all riding being done on country roads/highway. I don't find the ST a very suitable commute bike for riding around city streets, if I was 150mm taller, with longer legs I might feel differently, but it's not a bike I enjoy riding around town.


That doesn't mean I don't  :KissBlow my  :wht13 though.
Title: Re: math is not my strong point - fuel economy
Post by: Brock on February 27, 2014, 02:49:18 PM
Quote
I really only have a concept of fuel usgae if it's in miles per gallon.

Old Steve,
Was that in US MPG or Imperial   :p :p

My spread sheet gives you both/all, as well as averages, Max and min figures and Ks / $ :grin
Title: Re: math is not my strong point - fuel economy
Post by: Old Steve on February 28, 2014, 09:32:01 AM
Brock,

I don't use US gallons and I don't use NPT.  API and SAE standards only apply if there's no other alternative, DOT helmet classifications I'll go along with but that's the thin edge of the wedge.

I would like one day to ride up the east coast of the USA, across the top, and down the west coast, so I suppose I'll have to use miles/USgal if I do that.  So:

5.5 L/100km
= 18.2 km/L
= 51 mpg - ah, that's not bad at all
and that's 42.5 miles/USgal

Here in tropical QLD that's close to $A0.09/km, in the USA that'd be $A0.06/km
Title: Re: math is not my strong point - fuel economy
Post by: Biggles on February 28, 2014, 11:02:43 AM
If you figured out the total cost per km for owning and riding the bike you'd think twice about going out on a day ride.
My ex-Police 2000 ST1100 that I paid $7840 for back in 2006 cost me cost $10.13 per day to own and operate.
Or 29.32 cents/km taking everything in account including proceeds from sale and PPE.
Obviously the longer you keep  a bike and the further you ride it, the more these figures come down.

Title: Re: math is not my strong point - fuel economy
Post by: TAZZIEBAZ on February 28, 2014, 02:37:57 PM
Now Biggles.........how do you put a price on happiness! :grin