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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: jf3000 on November 17, 2014, 05:46:26 PM
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Fuel and distance. On the 1300 how far can I get on a full tank and is there a reserve as well? I have been looking at the towns and back roads and places to avoid etc and some of the roads have no servos and I was going to ask if its a good idea to get a jerry can and stick on the back behind me?
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On the 1300 on a highway ride, I get between 420 and 480 km before the fuel Gauge starts blinking and the Fuel economy meter starts telling the range remaining. When this happens (reserve) the indicated Range remaining is usually about 90 km. I've achieved 90 km before running out once. Normally it is about 60 to 75 km after you hit reserve.
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Gadget has nailed it. Around 420+ before the gauge gets to the last "bar". When the gauge gets to the last "bar", it will show you kilometers to empty. You'll be fine. Even in the remote areas of NW WA, it's only around 300km between fuel stops, and you're not going anywhere near there. :thumb
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There is no reserve, just the warning that you are getting low
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Fuel and distance. On the 1300 how far can I get on a full tank and is there a reserve as well? I have been looking at the towns and back roads and places to avoid etc and some of the roads have no servos and I was going to ask if its a good idea to get a jerry can and stick on the back behind me?
I refill based on my average usage until the fuel warning comes on. I ignore the 4 litres (+/-) of reserve. So I have a safe 400 km (17 k/l) riding two up but will fuel up with the 350/400 range. When towing the trailer most of time I will take 10/20 litre spare fuel but then I only have a safe 360k range and aim to refuel near the 300k distance but with a head wind I can lose up to 100k in distance. I found that when I ran dry after doing only 324k
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There is no reserve, just the warning that you are getting low
The fuel warning light (if they still work) would in most cases light up at what would have been the same level had we had the old manual fuel valve.
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Hey, on my 1100 , light came on this arvo, as I was out and about, Just turned over 400k,s. Took 22 litres... Play safe and look for fuel 350 to 400 and there's no problems. Plenty of servos out there,, Good Luck and enjoy................................ :wht11
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Does the 1999 1100A have a fuel warning light?
Sounds silly but i am inside and dont want to go out into the mossie infested garage.
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Does the 1999 1100A have a fuel warning light?
Sounds silly but i am inside and dont want to go out into the mossie infested garage.
To Quote ' Oliver Hardy ` It certainly does...................................... :wht11
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Does the 1999 1100A have a fuel warning light?
Sounds silly but i am inside and dont want to go out into the mossie infested garage.
Yes......all 1100s do.......should light up (test function) at key on and then go off until fuel level drops to about 4 litres remaining.
The sensor is located on the fuel pump
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Cheers. Will look tomorrow morning at start up.
Sooo ..... Theoretically I should get at least another fifty K's with conservative driving once the light comes on.
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I would look at a couple of averages over a couple of tanks. You will soon work out how far she will go,,,white is the new blue... :wht11
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So should I get the jerry?
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So should I get the jerry?
The way your going you're gonna have a service station on just about every corner. So on that trip I'd say no.
On the other hand it's better to have it and not need it, than need it and don't have it. 5 litres extra would be more than enough
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So should I get the jerry?
No! The range on the ST is plenty for the kind of riding, and the places you are going.
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Fuel and distance. On the 1300 how far can I get on a full tank and is there a reserve as well? I have been looking at the towns and back roads and places to avoid etc and some of the roads have no servos and I was going to ask if its a good idea to get a jerry can and stick on the back behind me?
It depends on what fuel you use. I routinely use 98 (when I can get it) and regularly get 450 to 470Km (fully loaded two-up) before the fuel gauge starts to blink on the last bar starting the countdown to run-out usually showing around 90Km to go. On our trip around Australia in 2013 and our Red Centre tour this year we never exceeded 300Kms between re-fuel locations so there is certainly no need to carry extra fuel for the 1300. Just make sure to fill up every time the opportunity arises on long remote hauls.
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Besides, 5 litres takes up a fair bit of one pannier.
Don't sweat on getting a high octane fuel. If you arrive at a servo that only has regular, use it- the STs can handle it (I have only ever used it in my three STs, including the ST11).
And stop worrying! Load the bike up with all you have to carry, fill the tank and tummy and go have fun. After 300 kays you'll both need a drink, so fill the tank again and grab something for yourself.
And take some photos to illustrate your ride report, or the Mods will be cross!! :-(((
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Makes me laugh when people say yeah this is a good thing then there is the OTHER riders who say no you dont need that. lol. Jerry can was going to sit behind me.
Whats the easiest way to post to the forum my trek journey using a mobile.
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Makes me laugh when people say yeah this is a good thing then there is the OTHER riders who say no you dont need that. lol. Jerry can was going to sit behind me.
Whats the easiest way to post to the forum my trek journey using a mobile.
You are right! You know where you are going, so if you've planned your ride (or when you do) you will know where and when you can get fuel along the way. Once you know that info look at the longest leg and ask yourself if your tolerance for risk let's you cope with no jerry. If the anser is yes, then don't take one. Wasn't someone following you in a car for this trip?
The best way to post to the form on a phone depends on what phone you have and what your preferences are. Have a go at it first and if it doesn't work out for you then tell us why and I'm sure someone can help. :thumbsup
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If its a Samsung with a decent sized screen, you could load firefox web browser and just operate as normal. You would need a Note 3 or tablet for decent viewing, unless you have eagle eyes. The stylus comes in handy for the typing as well
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One thing about carrying extra fuel in a can, fuel does go stale (OK, it'll take months). When I've carried extra fuel (and have never done so on the ST1100 even though I've done some rides in excess of 400 km) fill up from the can at every stop then refill the can. This means you have fresh fuel all the time, and you'll know that its always full. You do have to get into the habit of zeroing the trip button at the servo.
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If its a Samsung with a decent sized screen, you could load firefox web browser and just operate as normal. You would need a Note 3 or tablet for decent viewing, unless you have eagle eyes. The stylus comes in handy for the typing as well
I use the standard chrome browser on the 10.1 and 8 inch tabs but they're only wifi so to use online I use the home network but if I needed to the mobile phone could be set as a wifi hotspot to go on line. But I have to be desperate to do all that while on the road so I wait until I get home or where I'm going and use the laptop
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Like folk say, browsing on a phone is for micro-surgeons.
I just use Alan's technique- laptop linked to internet via mobile phone portable hotspot wifi.
That way youse get your daily Quote while I'm travelling, albeit at the evening stop.
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Thank you Wombattle - Any relation to a Womble?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztv-pXldJ5Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztv-pXldJ5Q)
I am actually surprised the site hasn't been configured in the code to detect mobile phone using php. Simple script detects the phone the outputs the user to m.oz etc then the website is displayed correctly on the phone with no squinting.
Thank you for all the input.
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So should I get the jerry?
No...
Would you take a jerry of fuel in a car traveling down the coast? No because there's servo's everywhere. You'll be fine mate.
You're overthinking it.
Download this if you're really worried: https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/bp-site-locator/id650690359?mt=8
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Thats an itunes link, no good to me.
Its also BP I dont use there fuel, the fuel from there makes the bike sound like a tank and run like a mini, i've always had issues with BP fuel, hence why I go to caltex and get 98. Thanks though.
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I am actually surprised the site hasn't been configured in the code to detect mobile phone using php. Simple script detects the phone the outputs the user to m.oz etc then the website is displayed correctly on the phone with no squinting.
Using my Galaxy Mini phone I accessed the ozstoc site ok but it did ask if I wanted to install Taptalk so I declined that.
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Thats an itunes link, no good to me.
Its also BP I dont use there fuel, the fuel from there makes the bike sound like a tank and run like a mini, i've always had issues with BP fuel, hence why I go to caltex and get 98. Thanks though.
http://www.caltex.com.au/HelpCentre/Pages/CaltexLocator.aspx (http://www.caltex.com.au/HelpCentre/Pages/CaltexLocator.aspx)
Pro tip: Although you shouldn't have too much trouble finding 98. Not all small towns will stock your preferred fuel, so don't be precious about it for the trip. Fuel is fuel is fuel and you'll fill up with the good stuff when you get there
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Thank you everyone for all your tips.
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I'm surprised at the fuel range some of you have indicated. I easily get high 400's and if push comes to shove I can comfortably exceed 500k's per tank especially on a country run. I once got to mid 500's when the display blanked out and ran for another 10 or so till I found a servo, but I try not to rely on that too often.
I normally use 98 but on my last 'outback' trip I carried some fuel enhancer (cant remember what its called) to top up the octane because 98 wasnt available in most outback servos.
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My 1100, is normally around 420Ks when I fill up, with a normal fill of around 25 Litres
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Its also BP I dont use there fuel, the fuel from there makes the bike sound like a tank and run like a mini, i've always had issues with BP fuel, hence why I go to caltex and get 98. Thanks though.
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Your bike does not need 98.
BP or Caltex, indeed any of the majors are fine...Shell has one to watch. The superduuper one Vpower??
There are plenty of blokes on here that run for hours at a time on all manner of petrol fuels without touble all across Australia. This time of the year with the added heat generated by your bike, the hot air of the traffic and generally summer temperatures I would avoid the use of 98. Its just not needed in these tractors anyway.
Oh and in some places your choices will be limited.
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And for all that, there are experienced riders who will only use BP.
Just shows how different we all are. :grin
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I'm not fussy but I do avoid Liberty's etc.....Caltex 95 is what I mostly lookout for but just as happy with 91 RON every few tanks full.
The only thing I tend to avoid is leaving 98 RON for weeks on end in the bike when unused.
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The only thing I tend to avoid is leaving 98 RON for weeks on end in the bike when unused.
:beer
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Good point that. To often overlooked, not that either of my bikes stand about for long.
"And for all that, there are experienced riders who will only use BP."
Biggles are you one of them? Give us some insight. Whats the reasoning behind that do you think.
Our local is BP, my other local up the road is an Independant with a huge delivery region and I frequent Caltex's too. But I only use the 91 at a Shell.
Bloody good thing we are different
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"And for all that, there are experienced riders who will only use BP."
Biggles are you one of them? Give us some insight. Whats the reasoning behind that do you think.
Nope- I generally avoid it because it's usually the dearest in town. I have no issue with their quality, and would certainly choose it over Liberty etc. I mostly carry Coles dockets and get Shell and save a princely $1 per fill. I figure they have the highest turn-over of fuel anywhere, and so their quality should be fine. I certainly don't throw money away on their V-Power (98).
Ruby is working her way through her 5239th litre of 91. Hasn't seemed to do much damage and I have collected the occasional ticket for exuberance, so it goes faster than might be considered sufficient.
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My 1100, is normally around 420Ks when I fill up, with a normal fill of around 25 Litres
I just filled mine this morning and with out the warning light working I fill sooner rather than later. The gauge just got to the white mark before the red and took 22.53 litres for 373 k so not far off of Brock's.
I only use 91 Ron fuel from any brand and have had no issues even with the occasional tank or two of E10 and like Biggles I use either Coles Express or Woolworths with a voucher if we are near one.
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The major oil companies used to do fuel swaps for those places where they do not have refineries. So if there is she'll refinery only in an area the fuels come from it. They do have their own additive packages, and for fuels like 98 they tend to keep it to themselves. On one car forum I am on a few of them are tanker drivers, and I had to deal with these arrangements for work when the gst and fuel excise arrangements were introduced.
There is also a lot more imported fuels these days, which the independents use to stay price competitive.
But if you places that seem to be better, they may well be. With the st1100 some tanks were somehow better than others, but with Efi does not seem to matter as much, but e10 gives slightly less range wheras in the 11 I got equal best as must run a bit leaner with the carbs.
Now Wilcannia is a different matter! As Lionel...
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"And for all that, there are experienced riders who will only use BP."
Biggles are you one of them? Give us some insight. Whats the reasoning behind that do you think.
Nope- I generally avoid it because it's usually the dearest in town. I have no issue with their quality, and would certainly choose it over Liberty etc. I mostly carry Coles dockets and get Shell and save a princely $1 per fill. I figure they have the highest turn-over of fuel anywhere, and so their quality should be fine. I certainly don't throw money away on their V-Power (98).
Ruby is working her way through her 5239th litre of 91. Hasn't seemed to do much damage and I have collected the occasional ticket for exuberance, so it goes faster than might be considered sufficient.
I buy my fuel at the place nearest to the Coffee shop...makes the ST and myself happy :thumb
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A friend of mine who drives a Caltex fuel truck said he delivers fuel to BP service stations
So I guess you don't know what you are getting >:()
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A friend of mine who drives a Caltex fuel truck said he delivers fuel to BP service stations
So I guess you don't know what you are getting >:()
When I was working for Coles Express in both Port Hedland and but Karratha we would get ULP (91) and PULP (95) from the BP terminal at Port Hedland and diesel from the Shell terminal at Dampier. So we would get BP unleaded and BP would get Shell diesel.
Caltex had their own depot for the Caltex and Woolworths branded sites but where they got their fuel from was any bodies guess.
On one trip back from Adelaide we needed to fuel about halfway between Newman and Karratha (Auski Roadhouse) and we saw two tankers at the pumps (unusual). Turns out a fuel delivery got put in to the wrong tanks (costly mistake) and it was being pumped out. We just made it as the Unleaded had just been replaced before closing time.
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I was working for Caltex in NZ when they introduced their "Techron" additive. I was the Technical Manager there when Caltex NZ got a BMW approval for that petrol (long story there, we shipped a 200 L drum of 91 petrol to San Fransisco for BMW's testing and it landed there the day before the earthquake, the drum went missing for about 4 weeks but was eventually found. Fuel passed the BMW test, BMW said it was the cleanest valve components they'd ever seen - a combination of the high quality petrol from NZ's refinery and a bloody good additive).
Anyway, I won't use anything else than Caltex's Techron petrol if I can help it, I know the performance of the additive. Unfortunately Caltex Aust don't put the additive in their 91 (Caltex NZ does) so Norma Jean gets 95 most of the time.
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a combination of the high quality petrol from NZ's refinery and a bloody good additive).
Anyway, I won't use anything else than Caltex's Techron petrol if I can help it, I know the performance of the additive. Unfortunately Caltex Aust don't put the additive in their 91 (Caltex NZ does) so Norma Jean gets 95 most of the time.
Now that's a valuable insight. Many thanks for that, Steve.
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The Brisbane BP refinery is closing next year.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/mining-and-resources/jobs-to-go-as-bp-closes-brisbane-refinery-20140402-35xkr.html (http://www.smh.com.au/business/mining-and-resources/jobs-to-go-as-bp-closes-brisbane-refinery-20140402-35xkr.html)
Caltex looks safe for now.
http://edm.australiatradecoast.com.au/newsletters/56/4article.html (http://edm.australiatradecoast.com.au/newsletters/56/4article.html)