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Title: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: ST2UP on January 14, 2015, 11:53:07 AM
The new OzSTOC Custom motorcycle Jacket is due for dispatch and delivery over the next week depending on your location  :runyay if you find you have fitting issues with your new Jacket  :eek remember these where a custom order so exchange with Zen is not possible.

HOWEVER we have this incredible forum to advertise and exchange our Jackets amongst our selves should that need arise due to fitting issues.

If you need exchange the garment post the Jackets size and Your size that you believe you need and location in this thread.....moving the Jackets around will need be at your expense or utilise the OzSTOC forum courier service.


 :beer
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: ppopeye on January 15, 2015, 05:19:57 PM
Well it looks like we are first to need a swap.
I bought a XXL for me and a XXXL for Chris.

I can use the XXXL but would prefer to try a XXXXL.

We need a new home for the XXL

Garry C
Ppopeye
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: Nigel on January 16, 2015, 02:04:02 PM
Hi all out there in Jacket land,  I have a 2xl thats too tight for moi need a 3xl, just pm me to arrange. It seems that the sizes are on the small side so there wont be too many swaps down list only up, so some will miss out. If I cant get a bigger one then this one will be up for grabs  :cuss. No reflection on the crew that put these together though, a fantastic Jacket.................Thanks All ... :wht11
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: kezaloz on January 16, 2015, 02:46:28 PM
I have my beautiful new ozSToc jacket size 5xl for sale.
it arrived today, has been tried on and is too small ..
Bugger , damn and poop....

will swap for a 7xl if yours is too big.

Let me just say what a great concept this club jacket was, to the guys and girls who dreamt it up and put the plans into place, well done..... unfortunately the measuring tapes at the factory appear not to be calibrated to the Australian metric system.... no ones fault at this end, thats for sure..?..
 Anywho.. i
Im in Goulburn NsW! If you want to call me and come and try it on first.

$100.00....

regretful sale, would rather have the jacket.....

No. I wont be posting it to you, to avoid the same problems, you MUST try it on first ..... sorry guys...
Alan
0429 335 191

Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: Marcus on January 16, 2015, 02:56:05 PM
Did you guys not measure yourselves correctly?
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: Abe on January 16, 2015, 03:13:52 PM
Did you guys not measure yourselves correctly?

People may have measured themselves correctly, or have been measured by a Tailor, or went to Zen direct,
BUT, by the sounds of it so far it is the linings that make it "snug".

Hopefully everything will work out with the exchange programme for those that need it.

Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: Marcus on January 16, 2015, 03:22:11 PM
Agreed. Just asking
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: Abe on January 16, 2015, 03:24:45 PM
Agreed. Just asking
Good question though  :thumbs
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: ppopeye on January 16, 2015, 03:28:58 PM
Nothing  to do with measuring correctly.  I went to Zen, later bought hoodies XXL, perfect. XXL is my size in everything. Tried on at Zen dririder sized jacket so XXL should be ok. Well XXXL is not big enough. It wasas I tought in the beginning. Needed to try actual samples on. Slim and small cut.

I understand how difficult that may have been so we have this situation. Most people need 2 sizes bigger.  Perhaps small or medium people are more likely to be ok but not all it appears.

No reflection on Mark at Zen or organisers from me. Clothing sizing is a lottery sometimes with different brands and styles etc
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: Nigel on January 16, 2015, 03:30:37 PM
Measured at least 5 times even got the missus involved. Just too tight, but a great jacket.   :wht11
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: Pete on January 16, 2015, 03:34:20 PM
Love the new jacket that just arrived.
Hasn't Streak & Co done a great job researching them.
Well done.

My jacket is a 3XL & is a little tight around the arm pits.
Would love to swap it for a 4XL or 5XL.
If i cannot swap this jacket, then it will have to do.
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: STroppy on January 16, 2015, 04:11:36 PM
I wonder if Lionel ordered one . . . I could buy his, maybe?
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: Marcus on January 16, 2015, 05:23:04 PM
I ride with only wearing a t-shirt under my jacket. I'll admit it snug with the liners in but that's a good thing. And assuming you all played with the adjustment straps etc??? Not having a go,  just curious
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: richo on January 16, 2015, 05:39:34 PM
I agree with comments about the quality of the jacket but side by side with the current jacket it is definitely smaller.    I will take it to the RTE tomorrow otherwise I have one 3xl (actual  size would be large) up for grabs.  I even had the wife do the measures whilst I was wearing a jumper as I like a loose jacket. .  Richo
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: Skip on January 16, 2015, 05:53:37 PM
Good motivation for a new years resolution about ones mass?  :whistle  Just saying'
 :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: rally on January 16, 2015, 07:02:01 PM
 :rd13 :rd13

Hi Chaps,

I think the manufacturer put on any size lable, think we will have to measure sleeve lengths and waist measurements of each jacket to get the REAL size..

Rally
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: richo on January 16, 2015, 07:21:28 PM
Good idea from Ralley, it does seem that the sizes are some what random.  Side by side with the current jacket there is no comparison.  Comparing the various sizes against each other in the club jackets would be interesting.  Whilst they are a custom order they should conform to a uniform size, ie a xxl should be bigger than a L in the same jacket.  If they can not meet this basic test it may get interesting.  I will measure the size ordered to the size delivered.
 :law. Richo
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: rally on January 16, 2015, 07:27:38 PM
 :rd13 :rd13

Hi Chaps,

just measured my dryrider jacket size 3xl aganst my Zen 4xl

NECK                                            440 mm    Zen neck  420 mm
waist                                            1200mm   Zen waist 1100mm
length of sleeve under arm           530mm    Zen 500mm
Width across back shoulder seam 600mm    Zen 530mm

So from that the ZEN 4 XL is about the size of just a normal XL jacket (or at least my one is)

Rally
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: Marcus on January 16, 2015, 07:45:28 PM
I guess this is why the ladies bitch about dress sizes being not uniform from designer to designer.
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: WendyL on January 16, 2015, 08:14:44 PM
I guess this is why the ladies bitch about dress sizes being not uniform from designer to designer.
Got it in one Marcus!  :cuss
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: buck on January 16, 2015, 09:25:52 PM
A common problem it seems. I normally take a 2XL and measures twice and ordered one up and bought a 3XL and its far to tight for comfort. I can get the zips done up but that makes breathing problematical.

I have one 3XL to swap or sell, cost plus shipping (I live in Melbourne if that helps). I need a 4 or 5XL I think.

Buck
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: StinkyPete on January 17, 2015, 06:38:54 AM
Concept Discussion  - Mass Jacket Exchange
It seems that most people are reporting that their new jackets are quite snug, so here's a concept that might be worth exploring at the National Rally, or at large State events.

Every one with a jacket that they wish to exchange lines up in size order, with their jacket on the ground.  Everyone moves forward one size.   The majority of members will then have a jacket that fits well.   Those who still don't achieve one that fits, may sell  through the OzSTOC Forum.   If our largest member with a jacket looses theirs, have a $4.00 whip around at the exchange which can go that person who under this process finish up with no jacket at all.

This is simply a proposal for discussion and some polishing.   
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: Streak on January 17, 2015, 06:49:39 AM
at this stage I have not received my jacket, which I ordered a 2XL, I was the crash test dummy of the Trial Jacket which was a Large.

I am waiting for my jacket to arrive, and I will try it on, and take it from there.

as I will have the prototype vs the real deal.

as we have people we are really happy with their fit and others a small fit.

so I am waiting for the jacket and I will look from there
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: Snigdog on January 17, 2015, 11:03:24 AM
I have size L jacket which is too small for me......looking to exchange for larger size (XL or 2XL) or sell at cost.
Im in Melbourne. PM or ring me if interested
Rgds,
Rick
0438 048 766
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: Gavo on January 17, 2015, 02:20:06 PM
Concept Discussion  - Mass Jacket Exchange
It seems that most people are reporting that their new jackets are quite snug, so here's a concept that might be worth exploring at the National Rally, or at large State events.

Every one with a jacket that they wish to exchange lines up in size order, with their jacket on the ground.  Everyone moves forward one size.   The majority of members will then have a jacket that fits well.   Those who still don't achieve one that fits, may sell  through the OzSTOC Forum.   If our largest member with a jacket looses theirs, have a $4.00 whip around at the exchange which can go that person who under this process finish up with no jacket at all.

This is simply a proposal for discussion and some polishing.

Damn fine idea  :like

You my friend are an ideas man
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: blackduck on January 17, 2015, 02:30:39 PM
After reading this thread there was only one course of action
sit down with a beer and watch ben hur

believe it or not the jacket saga was bigger than that  ;-*

Im sensing jackets in the larger sizes may become a valuable commodity
which means my 5xl could be gold
who said being a fat "B" wouldnt pay
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: Lionel on January 17, 2015, 02:47:41 PM
So could my 7XL. There is only one 7XL.
I promised it to Saaz.
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: richo on January 17, 2015, 03:32:55 PM
I have one 3xl jacket looking for a new owner.   For those out there who know stinky Pete the jacket fitted him perfectly.  (We compared jackets at today's SA RTE .  Will pass it on at cost.  Richo
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: saaz on January 17, 2015, 04:44:41 PM
Would not have thought Pete to be a 3XL.

I have one 3xl jacket looking for a new owner.   For those out there who know stinky Pete the jacket fitted him perfectly.  (We compared jackets at today's SA RTE .  Will pass it on at cost.  Richo
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: saaz on January 17, 2015, 04:46:18 PM
I would be interested to see what size that is.  May not be big enough for STroppy as he is your size  :Stirpot

So could my 7XL. There is only one 7XL.
I promised it to Saaz.
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: ST2UP on January 17, 2015, 05:13:07 PM
On advise from Mark at Zen could those with Jacket sizing issues PLEASE hold onto their Jackets at the moment and NOT trade, swap , sell or have a ritual sacrifice of their Jacket just yet. We are waiting on Streak to get his Jacket to confirm a evidence based base line on the Jacket we were sent by the Manufacture with THEIR sizing chart......

We should have some firm evidence by the middle of next week......stay tuned campers  :thumbsup


Cheers

Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: Nigel on January 17, 2015, 05:59:41 PM
Will do thanks Chris.and thanks Mark......".............. :wht11
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: atoyot on January 17, 2015, 08:01:39 PM
I'm happy to give my 5XL to anyone who doesn't fit in a 4XL, and I've really got enough jackets, so I don't care if I don't get one in the end or not. It sounds like this has become a nightmare for Mark, and it also looks like the nightmare will continue for him with the manufacturers, so if anyone wants a 5XL (I've never had a 5XL in anything!!)PM me.
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: Hendo on January 17, 2015, 08:11:26 PM
Just to add to the numbers, I measured myself twice then ordered a 3xl, thinking this was generous for a jumper underneath etc. well with a tshirt on and no liners there is a 1.5 - 2.0 inch gap in the middle. No chance of it fitting. ( For reference my motodry jacket is marked xl) I would love a jacket that fits as I believe the quality and design is outstanding

It does however fit my 17 yo daughter well. She wasn't impressed when I told her she was a 3xl....lol
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: richo on January 17, 2015, 08:37:11 PM
 :clap  :popcorn. It would be great to find out if the sizing  "shrunk" in translation.   I do want the jacket as they seem to be of good quality.   Hopefully we will al get the answer next week.   Richo
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: Bikebear on January 17, 2015, 08:53:56 PM
Hmmm.. Starting to get worried now that I have wasted my money. I thought long and hard about this purchase and only ordered a 3XL after being advised the sizes were definitely equal to DriRider sizes and after I had found someone with a DriRider 3XL to try on. It looks like there are going to be a lot of larger people who won't have a jacket and plenty of people who will have a choice in the smaller sizes. Gues that's what you get for trusting the sizing to be right without being able to try before you buy.
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: spanner on January 17, 2015, 11:30:39 PM
Bikebear

dont get too despondant. 

If there is a pattern here and it is found that the manufacturer has stuffed up we will have a great present for next christmas.   :rofl


But seriously if you are smaller then there is a good chance there will be a swap or sale available. 

I for one will activly be searching for a jacket for my daughter or possi ly a larger one for me. 
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: johnnyYTED on January 18, 2015, 06:02:50 AM
 :dred11
Hmmm.. Starting to get worried now that I have wasted my money. I thought long and hard about this purchase and only ordered a 3XL after being advised the sizes were definitely equal to DriRider sizes and after I had found someone with a DriRider 3XL to try on.  Guess that's what you get for trusting the sizing to be right without being able to try before you buy.
Craig, I also was told the sizing was the same as DriRider, My dririder is a S > CuSTom Jacket ordered >S.
The difference between both is a HUGE => cuSTom Jacket a lot SMALLER..
 spanner,   :whistle I will wait and see the outcome of all this and keep your daughter in mind for a Tiny size  :crackup if I need to pass this 1 on.
 I am very impressed with the design and the workmanship thats gone into it though! Mark at Zen, the OzSTOC team, and members  input created something Special. Lets hope   
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: blackduck on January 18, 2015, 08:24:31 PM
On advise from Mark at Zen could those with Jacket sizing issues PLEASE hold onto their Jackets at the moment and NOT trade, swap , sell or have a ritual sacrifice of their Jacket just yet. We are waiting on Streak to get his Jacket to confirm a evidence based base line on the Jacket we were sent by the Manufacture with THEIR sizing chart......

We should have some firm evidence by the middle of next week......stay tuned campers  :thumbsup


Cheers
So chris are you saying there may be an avenue for Zen to reject the order based on inappropriate sizing information?
that be the case it would probably restore some confidence in the system and shine a light for those who have acted in good faith

the unfortunate part about this whole thing is you guys have put so much time and effort into it,
I think I can speak for the masses in applauding your effort and contribution to this project
 ++ ++ ++ ++
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: ST2UP on January 18, 2015, 08:44:19 PM
It may sound as though we are fence sitting but at this stage we are not ruling any option in or out......just gather factual evidence to support our options  :like


Thanks for your patience everyone  :thumbs
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: Streak on January 19, 2015, 12:32:29 PM
Ok girls and boys, my jacket has turned up, yep it is a little small, but I am at work so dont have the orginal jacket with me so I am waiting so I can take photos with the prototype jacket to, so I can send both to mark,  and we can plan from there.

So stay tuned!
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: Diesel on January 19, 2015, 12:46:00 PM
In case you are counting, I also have to go on record to say my 2XL is too small. I reckon I'd be looking for a 4XL swap over.

Sent from my Note 4

Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: ppopeye on January 19, 2015, 12:59:08 PM
Thats pretty much the case all round, plus two sizes


Sent from my iPad
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: DBfive on January 19, 2015, 01:00:12 PM
Picked mine up from PO this morning, had to open it (having read the comments so far!) and yes it's about 2-3 inches too small.  I'll set it out against my Dri-Rider XL that I based my sizing decision on tonight and maybe even try a selfie......

That all means I now need to exchange my XL for XXL or even a XXXL!!  Will Toowoomba have a swap meet built into the schedule???? It certainly looks and feels like a great jacket!
 :eek
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: Marcus on January 19, 2015, 01:25:00 PM
If it makes you all feel better.

Mine fits fine

(http://i.imgur.com/Q6OWMjs.jpg)
Title: Re: OzSTOC Custom Jacket inter-member exchange.
Post by: ST2UP on January 19, 2015, 03:35:19 PM
Afternoon Jacketeer's,


Just advising I'm temporarily LOCKING this thread.....


We are working on a number of solutions with Mark from Zen towards a positive outcome, it just takes time to collect all the data and evidence we need to put our case together.

For the time being if your Jacket is NOT the size you need to fit correctly please DONT remove the labels or swap the Jacket with another member  ;-*

cheers


Chris