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Title: Lucky Escapes... potential motorcycle accidents....
Post by: Diesel on March 09, 2015, 11:20:29 PM
Notice in this clip how most near misses are caused by 3 things:
- Motorists not indicating for long enough - i.e. quickly changing lanes - not letting people be aware of their intentions; - Motorcyclists accelerating quickly - i.e. not being there one minute, and there the next from the motorists point of view; and - Motorists not seeing the approaching bike and pulling out or turning in front of same.
MOTORBIKE LUCKY ACCIDENTS COMPILATION II 2 WEEK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DqcwTUpEN4#ws)
Cheers, Diesel
Title: Re: Lucky Escapes... potential motorcycle accidents....
Post by: alans1100 on March 10, 2015, 01:37:21 AM
Since having the 1100 from may 2006 I've had only three fail to give ways. The first at about 1am and I only had to change lanes to avoid but not really a big deal. The second was a HR truck coming out of my left and turning left into a 110 zone. Most traffic tended to turn left where I was going straight through. Not sure if the ABS kicked in or not and no on coming traffic so I went around and again it was night time. The third was a few weeks ago and another HR truck. She was turning left from my left and I was going to turn right, I was all ready in the RH lane and into the slip lane as she saw me. Woke her up I think as I never saw a HR truck stop that quick. All good.
That's it in over 30 years of riding and 75% in suburbia.....but tomorrows another day.......my biggest drama now is kids on skate boards, pushbikes and high school kids walking in the middle of the road instead of the foot path......
Title: Re: Lucky Escapes... potential motorcycle accidents....
Post by: STroppy on March 10, 2015, 06:17:21 AM
Notice pretty much all these incidents happened in built up areas . . One reason I stopped commuting on the bike. A number of blind motorists out there . . . Or maybe they just don't care and they are bigger . . . AND THEY ARE BIGGER . . . get used to it . . You may have all the rights in the World . . Not much use when laying on a slab . .
A lot of these riders were guilty of doing the same things the motorists were doing . . . Chopping in and out of lanes with little or no indication . . . As well as lane splitting at speed . . No . . No . . Most riders were showing aggression . . Not helpful before or after an incident . . Affects your riding in a not good way . . Affects mindset badly . . A lot of riders not reading the road and surrounds very well . . .
A few assholes in cars running well and truly red lights . . . So approach ALL intersections expecting someone to get you . .
Title: Re: Lucky Escapes... potential motorcycle accidents....
Post by: StinkyPete on March 10, 2015, 07:22:46 AM
That is some scary footage, underlining a lack of observation, attention and courtesy from many road users, both two wheeled and four. I agree with Stroppy in that quite a number of riders were taking unnecessary risks, or choosing to push their "right of way" or punish the other road user by use of their horn after the event, rather than concentrating on braking and avoidance. The lesson is to always ride defensively and give the idiots as much space as possible.
Title: Re: Lucky Escapes... potential motorcycle accidents....
Post by: Biggles on March 10, 2015, 11:07:27 AM
"Me too". :grin
The above two sensible gents are quite right in observing the rider's attitude. A bit of Zen goes a long way. Call it humility if you like. We are not the lords of the road, and we've made our share of mistakes. So rather than "punish" careless drivers, be thankful you're still upright. By all means give them a beep to let them know they missed you this time, but not a long, aggressive blast. As we all know by now, it's all about reading the traffic. We remain in high alert, expecting there will be drivers who don't look or are on their phones. Stroppy makes a good point- if heavy traffic spooks you, avoid it or change your attitude and/or technique. Alan makes a good point- pedestrians or skateboarders are another hazard entirely. At least they're softer than us on our bikes. :thumb
Title: Re: Lucky Escapes... potential motorcycle accidents....
Post by: Wombat on March 10, 2015, 11:47:06 AM
I'm with those above :grin Most incidents could be identified from afar :eek
:wht11
Title: Re: Lucky Escapes... potential motorcycle accidents....
Post by: Abe on March 10, 2015, 11:48:29 AM
Sitting in the drivers blind spot is not a good idea, anyway.
We have these fit to some of our fleet, and boy do they work:-
Title: Re: Lucky Escapes... potential motorcycle accidents....
Post by: Brock on March 10, 2015, 12:11:58 PM
I would love a rumbler on the bike.. with out the siren of course..
o:) o:)
Title: Re: Lucky Escapes... potential motorcycle accidents....
Post by: Abe on March 10, 2015, 12:15:16 PM
Anything is possible :whistle
Title: Re: Lucky Escapes... potential motorcycle accidents....
Post by: Biggles on March 10, 2015, 01:11:06 PM
Reading Abe's URL, I went to the next page and it's about loud m/c exhausts. It includes this relevant passage:
"In their 2007 published report, 'Fatal Two-Vehicle Motorcycle Crashes' (DOT HS 810 834), motorcyclists were found to be overwhelmingly responsible for causing accidents with passenger vehicles. In nearly three-fourths of the two-vehicle motorcycle crashes involving passenger vehicles, the role of the motorcycle was recorded as the striking vehicle. Additionally, factors including alcohol impairment, invalid license, and speeding were more attributed to motorcycle riders."
Title: Re: Lucky Escapes... potential motorcycle accidents....
Post by: Brock on March 10, 2015, 06:34:46 PM
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the motorcycle was recorded as the striking vehicle.
Arent Stats wonderful, I wonder how many of those strikes were the result of the other vehicle getting into the path of the bike ...
Its like saying that 100% of level cossing crashes had the train striking the object and not mentioning that the object ignored the barriers and warnings and crossed the tracks anyway...
Title: Re: Lucky Escapes... potential motorcycle accidents....
Post by: Totgas on March 10, 2015, 07:01:37 PM
My favorite is "speed was a factor" meaning if the motorbike was stationary the accident probably wouldn't have happened. :p :p :p