Author Topic: Front wheel bearing  (Read 3084 times)

Offline kappy5003

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 178
  • Thanked: 4 times
  • ST Legend
Front wheel bearing
« on: March 04, 2015, 07:51:27 PM »
My apologise if this has been done somewhere else, couldn't find.

As most are aware I have done a considerable work  to AnaSTasia of late, still fine tuning carb situ.

Anyway also did new seals and fluid in forks.new rotors and pads.

Brand new Bridgestone Battlax T30 with balance beads, on a second hand straight rim,unknown age as mine had been buckled (long boring story, trust me you don't wanna know)

Anyway as I've been getting the feel for her all over again, I've noticed under firm braking a sort of shuddering at almost stop and I've noticed a sort of speed wobble at around 120ish, ( no lectures of speed limits)

As I have the wheel bearings anyway thought I may change them, so I was wondering id anyone a proper tool I could borrow or guidance rather than me bashing away with steal rod and sockets etc.

Cheers
Cheers
Kappy
Growing old is inevitable, growing up is optional.
STOC #6677
ST 1100 P AnaSTasia
 

Offline Abe

  • Legendary "1000 Club" Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1797
  • Thanked: 178 times
  • 4D Gang Member
Re: Front wheel bearing
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2015, 07:59:46 PM »
When was the steering head bearings done ?? 
,
At my age " getting lucky" is remembering what I came in the room for ;)

:wht13      Cheers Dave
Member of the 4 D Gang
 

Offline kappy5003

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 178
  • Thanked: 4 times
  • ST Legend
Re: Front wheel bearing
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2015, 08:29:58 PM »
Converted to taper bearings about 10k ago,no more.
Cheers
Kappy
Growing old is inevitable, growing up is optional.
STOC #6677
ST 1100 P AnaSTasia
 

Offline Yorkie

  • Pit Crew & Recovery Specialist
  • Legendary "1000 Club" Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1374
  • Thanked: 202 times
  • ST Legend
Re: Front wheel bearing
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2015, 09:01:56 PM »
I use a large, size ?? dynabolt, lock it in and knock that out
Brian 0418937173
Manager York Motor Museum

In the shed
1999 ST1100A
1971 CB750K2
1980 XV750
1977 GL1000
FR#720
CMRCWA #133
York,WA

So at what age does this "old enough to know better" kick in?
I believe in the "hereafter", every time I go to the shed I have to think "what am I here after"
 

Offline kappy5003

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 178
  • Thanked: 4 times
  • ST Legend
Re: Front wheel bearing
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2015, 10:20:48 PM »
Can I get a dyna bolt that large.?
Cheers
Kappy
Growing old is inevitable, growing up is optional.
STOC #6677
ST 1100 P AnaSTasia
 

Online Brock

  • Tardis Tech
  • UNBELIEVABLE "5000 Posts" Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 8739
  • Thanked: 1708 times
  • White is the fastest
Re: Front wheel bearing
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2015, 10:23:00 PM »
Yorkie can email his...
 o:)

To reduce bashing to fit the new ones, leve the bearings in their bags (if they come in bags) and bung in the deep freeze for a couple of hours, The bearings will shrink a bit, and they may just drop in. You could also heat the bearing seat with a hot air gun to expand the hole a bit, better get some one to help with that, as you cant heat and get bearings out of the freezer at the same time  (unless you use a little cooler with dry ice instead of the freezer.
« Last Edit: March 04, 2015, 10:28:19 PM by Brock »
Brock
Asian Correspondent
2003 Honda ST1100PY



Ulysses #32829
STOC #8239
OzSToc # ??
Kinross WA
 

Offline kappy5003

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 178
  • Thanked: 4 times
  • ST Legend
Re: Front wheel bearing
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2015, 08:23:56 PM »
Hi Tech bearing puller
Cheers
Kappy
Growing old is inevitable, growing up is optional.
STOC #6677
ST 1100 P AnaSTasia
 

Offline Yorkie

  • Pit Crew & Recovery Specialist
  • Legendary "1000 Club" Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1374
  • Thanked: 202 times
  • ST Legend
Re: Front wheel bearing
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2015, 08:52:41 PM »
You have got the message Kappy.
Brian 0418937173
Manager York Motor Museum

In the shed
1999 ST1100A
1971 CB750K2
1980 XV750
1977 GL1000
FR#720
CMRCWA #133
York,WA

So at what age does this "old enough to know better" kick in?
I believe in the "hereafter", every time I go to the shed I have to think "what am I here after"
 

Offline Abe

  • Legendary "1000 Club" Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1797
  • Thanked: 178 times
  • 4D Gang Member
Re: Front wheel bearing
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2015, 07:49:24 AM »
Great idea there Yorkie  :thumbs

Now off to buy a dynabolt for the future.
At my age " getting lucky" is remembering what I came in the room for ;)

:wht13      Cheers Dave
Member of the 4 D Gang
 

Offline saaz

  • Supreme "2000" Club Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4542
  • Thanked: 41 times
  • Canberra ACT
Re: Front wheel bearing
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2015, 11:59:32 AM »
It would be worth checking the tension on the head bearings as they might have seated a bit more and need tightening up.
John
(Ridden on and forever in our hearts)
1996 Honda ST1100P
2014 Triumph Trophy SE
Ozstoc, STOC #7239, Farrider #461 Ulysses #061681, IBA #59143 and some others
 

Offline kappy5003

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 178
  • Thanked: 4 times
  • ST Legend
Re: Front wheel bearing
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2015, 10:13:20 PM »
Thanks Saaz, Ill do that.

Now Bugger,Bugger removed old bearings and dust caps etc, cleaned up rim and bits.

Put new bearing in freezer as suggested to shrink as suggested.

Then outa the freezer to test and shit they have grown.

So out with the vernier and the new bearingnes are 47mm and the old ones are 42mm is this possible, my original wheel with bend in it seems to be 47mm whereas  the secondhand  ones is 42mm :||||

So maybe I should consider getting original wheel straightened or get correct size bearing.

Cheers

Any thoughts on size difference????.
Cheers
Kappy
Growing old is inevitable, growing up is optional.
STOC #6677
ST 1100 P AnaSTasia
 

Online Brock

  • Tardis Tech
  • UNBELIEVABLE "5000 Posts" Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 8739
  • Thanked: 1708 times
  • White is the fastest
Re: Front wheel bearing
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2015, 11:02:31 PM »
Sounds like the replacement wheel wasnt quite right. Do you know some one who could machine out the wheel a tad????

I Dont know any tricks for getting a 47mm plug into a 42mm hole  :|||| :||||

What was the part no of the old bearing (should be on the dust seal, or etched into the bearing edge. does it match the new bearings
Brock
Asian Correspondent
2003 Honda ST1100PY



Ulysses #32829
STOC #8239
OzSToc # ??
Kinross WA
 

Offline kappy5003

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 178
  • Thanked: 4 times
  • ST Legend
Re: Front wheel bearing
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2015, 11:27:38 PM »
Part numbers are different

I wonder what impact a slightly smaller bearing would be in the scheme of things.

Getting the correct bearing maybe a lot easier than Machining or straightening old wheel.
 
« Last Edit: March 07, 2015, 12:13:27 AM by kappy5003 »
Cheers
Kappy
Growing old is inevitable, growing up is optional.
STOC #6677
ST 1100 P AnaSTasia
 

Online Brock

  • Tardis Tech
  • UNBELIEVABLE "5000 Posts" Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 8739
  • Thanked: 1708 times
  • White is the fastest
Re: Front wheel bearing
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2015, 08:21:51 AM »
It may be an earlier model wheel..

New bearing from a local bearing shop is quick and cheap
Brock
Asian Correspondent
2003 Honda ST1100PY



Ulysses #32829
STOC #8239
OzSToc # ??
Kinross WA
 

Offline saaz

  • Supreme "2000" Club Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4542
  • Thanked: 41 times
  • Canberra ACT
Re: Front wheel bearing
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2015, 01:38:28 PM »
The front wheel bearing size did change in 1996. If you take along a bearing that came out you can make sure you get the right ones.  The why might be that the ABS models from 96 on had the wider front rim and a 120/70 front tyre, so perhaps the bigger bearing was thought to be needed by the engineers.
John
(Ridden on and forever in our hearts)
1996 Honda ST1100P
2014 Triumph Trophy SE
Ozstoc, STOC #7239, Farrider #461 Ulysses #061681, IBA #59143 and some others
 

Offline kappy5003

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 178
  • Thanked: 4 times
  • ST Legend
Re: Front wheel bearing
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2015, 10:00:40 PM »
There is an obvious reason, interesting through both my rims are 18 x 3inch and i tell by the centre of the rims that my original police rim has maybe machined to take the larger bearing.

I try and use 110/80 tyres.

I'll ring some bearing suppliers in Perth Tomorrow.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2015, 10:05:05 PM by kappy5003 »
Cheers
Kappy
Growing old is inevitable, growing up is optional.
STOC #6677
ST 1100 P AnaSTasia
 

Online Brock

  • Tardis Tech
  • UNBELIEVABLE "5000 Posts" Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 8739
  • Thanked: 1708 times
  • White is the fastest
Re: Front wheel bearing
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2015, 10:26:50 PM »
Bearing Services (Midland I think) should be able to fix you up
Brock
Asian Correspondent
2003 Honda ST1100PY



Ulysses #32829
STOC #8239
OzSToc # ??
Kinross WA
 

Offline kappy5003

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 178
  • Thanked: 4 times
  • ST Legend
Re: Front wheel bearing
« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2015, 11:22:25 AM »
Had a few issues getting a fe things settled with bearings and fork alignment (Maybe OCD just a hint) but all good now I feel.

Does anyone know a tuning guru (carbys) in WA, when I start her, even after sitting for days she starts 1st time eveytim even without choke, but still doesn't sound as smooth as I think she should be.

I set the screw set at 2 turns as the manual stated 2 settings 1 7/8 turns and 2 1/2 turn, I couldn't confirm so went in the middle.

I've balanced carbs an number of time, but not since last ride to Narrogin.

I've had a few health challenges so things have been a tad slow.

Cheers
« Last Edit: March 27, 2015, 08:58:33 PM by kappy5003 »
Cheers
Kappy
Growing old is inevitable, growing up is optional.
STOC #6677
ST 1100 P AnaSTasia