Qld Police now require you to "Register Your Ride"

[Sabie]

http://www.police.qld.gov.au/forms/registerride.asp

[tj189]

I do not think it is a requirement but a voluntary completion of a form.

[STeveo]

Can't you just see this being a real headache for the police. Every time a learner rider group does a road test they have to fill another form. Sooner forgotten the better.

 

[Marcus]

Can't they (Government Agency) just get that info from the http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/ (Government Agency). Concidering we all have to register out bike anyway for the road

[Whizz]

Did anyone actually read the Police Note at the bottom of the ridiculous form? It says;

"The collection of this information is authorised by legislation or Queensland Police Service (QPS) policy established under the Police Service Administration Act 1990 (Qld) and the Police Powers and Responsibilities Act 2000 (Qld). The information may be used to assist in performing the statutory functions and responsibilities of the QPS.

The QPS may disclose some or all of this information to employees and contractors involved in the processing of this form. The information may also be disclosed to those persons and agencies outside the QPS as provided for by legislation or in accordance with the Information Privacy Act 2009. Failure to supply the requested information may mean that the QPS is unable to process this form. "

This is the broadest, least limited bit of claptrap coming from any Government agency that I have ever had the misfortune to read. It basically says "we can do whatever we want, with whatever we want, at any time we want, and there isn't a dammed thing you can do about it!" This is so vague that there are no limits whatever with what the cops can do with the information you are daft enough to provide.

Anyone actually completing this form wants their head read!!!

[Streak]

This is purely Voluntary, here is direct information We have been given:

In an attempt to set the record straight on how non-criminal motorcycle groups can conduct any form of organised group rides, the following information is now available.

A voluntary registration process has been developed by the Queensland Police Service as an attempt to open the lines of communication with the motorcycling community. This is not an avenue for police to provide escorts, or allow group rides to disobey red lights. It is a method to assist with overall traffic management for all road users.

The process is voluntary and there is no obligation for groups to register with the Queensland Police Service. There will be no penalty for groups who choose to not register. It is merely as a method to identify those with a legitimate interest in motorcycling generally.

Any group wishing to register can do so by registering with Policelink on 131 444. The details of the ride will then be sent to the local area where the ride will commence for their information.

In general terms legitimate clubs should be allowed to conduct their rides without mass interceptions, unless the activity of the riders would warrant normal police attention, e.g. speeding or crossing double lines, etc.

This information has been obtained from direct contact with the Queensland Police Service.

[Lionel]

Ulysses rides are advertised on the various websites.
Let the powers that be do their own data gathering.

[Whizz]

I know my reaction to this might be seen by some as being awkward, put to be quite truthful I see absolutely no reason why I, or any other motorcyclist or group of motorcyclists, should think it a required process to ask permission of the police force to actually ride a motorbike anywhere, at any time. This includes the concept of being required to actually tell the police force where I am going, or why, voluntarily or otherwise.

As long as I am riding a fully legal motorcycle on the road withing the legal requirements of speed and safety then it is absolutely none of their business where I am going, or why, or how many motorcyclists are going there too. Normal car drivers are not required to tell the police where they are going, so on what grounds do they think they can tell me that it has become a requirement for me to tell them what I want to do?

And if this form is not legally required, why does it exist? Exactly what is it supposed to achieve, other than to invade peoples freedom, and to record information about bike riders?

I could dissect the comments in Streaks message and pick holes in just about every part of the police viewpoint, but suffice it to ask, since when did it become a requirement for the cops to need to "identify those with a legitimate interest in motorcycling generally " ? Am I no longer allowed to move from one place to another without making sure the police know where I'm going and why. Just what sort of Nazi Occupation has Queensland become?

I know that most people might not agree, but please understand that I can see absolutely no justification for the police force, who we pay the wages of, telling a small group of road-users what they can and can't do whilst ignoring the vast majority of normal road users. Criminal bikers take up less than 1% of normal motorcyclists, yet every biker in Queensland has now been tarnished with the legal requirements to act like a criminal who might do something wrong at some point, so they have to report themselves now! Are these people insane????

We now have a situation where, if I drive my car from here to Brisbane I need to tell no-one, but if I ride a motorbike from here to Brisbane on the same road, I should fill in a form and give it to the police so they know who I am and where I'm going. This is so wrong that I am finding it difficult to define just how wrong it is.

Sorry guys, but this is driving me insane with anger at the total bulls**t that keeps adding itself to the entire situation.

[Lionel]

Whizz,
I don't think the situation is as bad as you believe it to be.
I haven't read the legislation but I thought it applied to groups of motorcyclists riding together.
We all know why the legislation was introduced. To keep the focus off the parlous state of the Qld economy by placing it back onto the good old chestnut of law and order. Its nothing new in Qld.
I think it is a complete farce.

[Nigel]

  Whizz ,Soo soo true.

[Sabie]

Whizz, I agree with your sentiments, however there is a bigger picture here and one the Civil Libertarians are trying to address, and that is;

The legislation doesn't mention motorcycles in it at all. It talks about associations and associating with other members of an association. Therefore by the letter of the law it can be or has the potential to be applied to any association or group eg Boy Scouts, Rotary Club etc as it doesn't distinguish between lawful and unlawful associations.

Motorcyclists are just the test case and I liken it to trying to hit the minority of motorcyclist (outlaw gangs) with a scatter gun. Should the unlawful undertakings of these gangs be dealt with? Absolutely, but you don't weed out the bad apple by throwing the whole basket away.

If it's the Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs your after then that's who you target.

Motorcycle enthusiasts should not and Must not be considered collateral damage by the Queensland Government in their fight against unlawful Bikie Gangs.
   

[Whizz]

Oh my God, how true! My thoughts exactly. But a very scary way to use a sledgehammer to crack an egg! I totally agree with the concept of stopping hairy-arsed knuckle draggers who ride motorbikes to transport illegal drugs from one place to another, but to directly affect the way the rest of the motorcyclists in QLD to try to make it happen is terminally stupid. Have the cops not noticed yet that every biker who made a living breaking the law has STOPPED being a biker by now and is now driving a Ute?

[Bikebear]

It gets better.. some numpty in Herr Newmans Liberal Nationalist Party wants every person in Qld who has a tattoo to be put on a register!!! Half the bloody QPS would be on it along with many ex-servicemen, people with cultural tattoos etc. etc. They've also sacked an independent committee who oversaw the CMC because they asked questions the government didn't want asked.

I really thought this sort of practice only existed in countries with shortarse tinpot military dictators.. oh wait.. Campbell was in the army wasn't he.. hmmm wonder when the opposition will be rounded up and put into dungeons and the military will be on the street harrassing old ladies...

I'm starting to wonder when we will see the exodus of people from Queensland escaping from a more and more paranoid and right wing government.

[Marcus]

It gets better.. some numpty in Herr Newmans Liberal Nationalist Party wants every person in Qld who has a tattoo to be put on a register!!! Half the bloody QPS would be on it along with many ex-servicemen, people with cultural tattoos etc. etc.

Don't forget the Hipsters

[Sabie]

Isn't he trying to dismantle the CMC? I thought he wanted their responsibilities transferred to the premiers dept.