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Offline Petenwen

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M.A.S.T.E.R.S course
« on: November 18, 2013, 06:22:52 PM »
Training Course
Hi all, a rider report with a difference.
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On Sunday 17th I attended a rider training course at Fairbairn Park near Queanbeyan NSW called  'M.A.S.T.E.R.S. Course' run by the Stay Upright team,I went along to this course thinking that if I only learn 1 thing that will help keep my wife and myself safe on the highway I would be happy, The hole course was a fantastic learning experience, I have been riding bikes for many years and I thought I new enough on how to ride a motor bike, how wrong can one be.
The course started on Saturday night and went for 3 hours from 6 to 9pm (theory only) and on Sunday from 8:30am and we finished up around 4:45pm a full day of practical, I will attach a sheet of some of the the techniques that they covered, we spent the whole day on our bikes riding around the hill climb circuit practising different techniques and getting feed back from the 2 instructors Andrew and Stephen.   
I have come away with a different out look on how I should be riding.
A course which is a must for all.
Cheers Peter.
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Re: M.A.S.T.E.R.S course
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2013, 06:39:31 PM »
How did you feel riding your own bike, were you nervous about dropping it?
 

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Re: M.A.S.T.E.R.S course
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2013, 06:55:34 PM »
Great work and congratulations there Peter.   :thumb

I must say I have been looking at doing a course for a while now, so, the New Year looks good (start saving my pennies)

Thanks for sharing.
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Re: M.A.S.T.E.R.S course
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2013, 06:57:09 PM »
Nice one Peter.

Most of what's written in the first picture I get but the second item in the brackets under emergency braking is a little unclear. If it means down change while braking then I get that.

I also wonder if some of the elements of the course are different for a bike like my A model as the combined brakes don't allow for independent Front/Rear braking. 

 



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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2013, 06:58:42 PM »
Well done on improving your skills.  Expensive, but worth budgeting for annually.  Even go with different companies to open up new insights/ venues.
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Re: M.A.S.T.E.R.S course
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2013, 07:00:05 PM »
I also wonder if some of the elements of the course are different for a bike like my A model as the combined brakes don't allow for independent Front/Rear braking. 

You'll find that Instructors just regard the linked braking system as an advantage rather than requiring different technique.
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Re: M.A.S.T.E.R.S course
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2013, 07:16:18 PM »
How did you feel riding your own bike, were you nervous about dropping it?
Hi Marcus, the thought of dropping the bike was certainly on my mind, but the instructors were very clear on instructions and demonstrations, one technique that they taught us was going around witches hats from one side of the road to the other, something that I would never of attempted before, but it is very easy when told how to do it.
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Re: M.A.S.T.E.R.S course
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2013, 07:31:26 PM »
Nice one Peter.

Most of what's written in the first picture I get but the second item in the brackets under emergency braking is a little unclear. If it means down change while braking then I get that.

I also wonder if some of the elements of the course are different for a bike like my A model as the combined brakes don't allow for independent Front/Rear braking.
Hi Alan, right Left Right Left is when you start to apply emergency braking, front brake, clutch, foot brake, gears in that order with a split second between them.
A lot of bikes there didn't have ABS brakes like mine, but we were all able to practise emergency stopping.
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Re: M.A.S.T.E.R.S course
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2013, 07:35:41 PM »
I also wonder if some of the elements of the course are different for a bike like my A model as the combined brakes don't allow for independent Front/Rear braking. 

You'll find that Instructors just regard the linked braking system as an advantage rather than requiring different technique.

Advantage yes, but under everyday riding I can stop pretty quickly (60 kph and under) just using the foot pedal by itself. That's not normal practice for me but one does need to know the ability of one brakes.
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Re: M.A.S.T.E.R.S course
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2013, 07:57:45 PM »

Hi Alan, right Left Right Left is when you start to apply emergency braking, front brake, clutch, foot brake, gears in that order with a split second between them.
A lot of bikes there didn't have ABS brakes like mine, but we were all able to practise emergency stopping.
Peter.

Thanks for that though I would have just used both brakes together as that happens on ours anyway. 
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Re: M.A.S.T.E.R.S course
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2013, 10:20:56 PM »
I do a lot of tight twisting curves on my ride to work. The combined system of the st is very good as opposed to just using the front  or rear brakes. The system is only combined of course when using foot brake and I think it's 60 - 40 % (rear 60). But others would know better. When I need to really pull the st up a good dose of both is awesome. There are a lot of you tube clips on braking.


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Re: M.A.S.T.E.R.S course
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2013, 10:21:34 PM »
I do a lot of tight twisting curves on my ride to work. The combined system of the st is very good as opposed to just using the front  or rear brakes. The system is only combined of course when using foot brake and I think it's 60 - 40 % (rear 60). But others would know better. When I need to really pull the st up a good dose of both is awesome. There are a lot of you tube clips on braking.


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Re: M.A.S.T.E.R.S course
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2013, 11:45:18 PM »
I do a lot of tight twisting curves on my ride to work. The combined system of the st is very good as opposed to just using the front  or rear brakes. The system is only combined of course when using foot brake and I think it's 60 - 40 % (rear 60). But others would know better. When I need to really pull the st up a good dose of both is awesome. There are a lot of you tube clips on braking.


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Not wanting to take this off topic but have a look here for how the combined system is connected. http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=3924.msg40200#msg40200

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