Author Topic: Not as good as they are trumped up to be? Lithium Batteries. (Read 7993 times)

Kev Murphy · « **Reply #25 on:** November 16, 2016, 12:18:14 AM »

Exchanged battery yesterday with no problems... they looked up the details, and found it was an old stock item, has been on the shelf for quite awhile.
Note to stockists... rotate your stock frequently

rally · « **Reply #26 on:** November 16, 2016, 06:51:53 AM »

Hi Chaps,
well the first battery in my 2003 ST 1300 was still good after 8 years, I only replaced it as I was going up the Snowy Mountains in the snow for a week and thought I should change it for safety. The replacement battery is now 5 years old.

Rally

Biggles · « **Reply #27 on:** November 16, 2016, 09:59:57 AM »

Quote from: Kev Murphy on November 16, 2016, 12:18:14 AM

Exchanged battery yesterday with no problems... they looked up the details, and found it was an old stock item, has been on the shelf for quite awhile.
Note to stockists... rotate your stock frequently

and observe the 6 month recharge regime. That would make them a liability for retailers.

Kev Murphy · « **Reply #28 on:** November 16, 2016, 04:10:17 PM »

Was at the bike shop today when the battery dealer dropped in... he flashed the old battery across a fully charged one, and then put it on to charge ...
"THIS will prove the reliability of the Lithium!", he declared
After 40 mins on the charger, battery showed 13.8 volts..... a very surprised look on his face when a mild load (35 watt headlight bulb) was connected,
and the voltage dropped to 7 volts within 3 minutes.
So then he said "Oh, you must have not ridden the bike for a few months, and allowed it to go flat!"
Guys at the bike shop chipped in "His bike is ridden almost every day, that battery was only delivered here 3 and a half weeks ago, and fitted to his bike on Wednesday last week!!!"

He conceded defeat, and took the battery with him.

Shiney · « **Reply #29 on:** November 16, 2016, 07:25:10 PM »

Quote from: Kev Murphy on November 16, 2016, 04:10:17 PM

Was at the bike shop today when the battery dealer dropped in... he flashed the old battery across a fully charged one, and then put it on to charge ...
"THIS will prove the reliability of the Lithium!", he declared
After 40 mins on the charger, battery showed 13.8 volts..... a very surprised look on his face when a mild load (35 watt headlight bulb) was connected,
and the voltage dropped to 7 volts within 3 minutes.
So then he said "Oh, you must have not ridden the bike for a few months, and allowed it to go flat!"
Guys at the bike shop chipped in "His bike is ridden almost every day, that battery was only delivered here 3 and a half weeks ago, and fitted to his bike on Wednesday last week!!!"

He conceded defeat, and took the battery with him.

Good to see the guys at the bike shop back you up

Kev Murphy · « **Reply #30 on:** November 16, 2016, 09:43:04 PM »

Of course, Shiney... they don't need a bad reputation as being sellers of faulty goods.

Nigel · « **Reply #31 on:** November 17, 2016, 05:34:45 PM »

I guess he found out quickly that he wasn't in charge....

............sorry bout that..

Kev Murphy · « **Reply #32 on:** November 17, 2016, 06:21:41 PM »

Nigel

He definitely left in a flat mood, sort of lost his spark when the cycle shop staff were short with him. I bet he went to the Pub for a top-up?

Biggles · « **Reply #33 on:** November 17, 2016, 06:29:41 PM »

Quote from: Kev Murphy on November 17, 2016, 06:21:41 PM

Nigel He definitely left in a flat mood, sort of lost his spark when the cycle shop staff were short with him. I bet he went to the Pub for a top-up?

I think the doc left a screw loose when he put the hatch back on your head.

Kev Murphy · « **Reply #34 on:** November 17, 2016, 06:43:58 PM »

Nah! ... it has always been loose

Not to worry, it's not TERMINAL ... and could LEAD to better things...

Nigel · « **Reply #35 on:** November 17, 2016, 07:13:38 PM »

Definitely not a positive result that's for sure, but I hope it hasn't been too much of a negative experience for him. You're right though, he may have left feeling a bit flat, but after a good night's sleep it will certainly help to recharge his batteries. ............................

twisted 1 · « **Reply #36 on:** November 17, 2016, 09:22:14 PM »

So if the battery rep hadnt reacted so POSITIVELY to the situation and you had lost your temper and hit him, you could have been CHARGED with assualt and BATTERY

Biggles · « **Reply #37 on:** November 17, 2016, 09:35:56 PM »

No. Asalt and Battery is a Fish and Chip shop here in Brissie.

Gadget · « **Reply #38 on:** November 18, 2016, 07:10:05 AM »

I'm CURRENTly impressed with the service Kev received. I think Kev probably feels ENERGISED to have a working battery.

Cheers,
Gary

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Kev Murphy · « **Reply #39 on:** November 18, 2016, 03:06:41 PM »

Truly electrifying!

This thread reminds me of an instance on a now defunct social forum I used to belong to several years ago.
Someone posted something or other about fish oil supplements?, and a group of five of us with twisted mentalities hijacked the thread, based on 'fish',
and managed to stretch it a little....

The original topic should have lasted maybe to 10 comments, but we extended it to run to 9 pages of weak puns and mis-directions in less than a day!

Gadget · « **Reply #40 on:** November 18, 2016, 04:04:57 PM »

That's because your a hard CASE. The PLATES must be stacking up with with all this time at the computer and out on the Bike.

Cheers,
Gary

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Kev Murphy · « **Reply #41 on:** November 18, 2016, 04:16:04 PM »

Nup, Gary ... done my washing up after visit to the Doc to renew the skull crash patch this afternoon, so that job is already discharged

STuzzilla · « **Reply #42 on:** November 20, 2016, 02:25:41 PM »

Hi the only advantage i can think of with a lithium is that they are much smaller and lighter than a std battery. This makes sense if you have a bmw or guzzi and want to cafe it ie remove as much crap and weight as possible. Eg on a k100rs and Le mans the battery is huge and weighs heaps ( makes a st battery look puny and light.) So unless your after a clean look through the frame and move the battery under the bike and want to lose up to 6 or 7 kgs! then don't bother.
This doesnt sound like a St owner to me.
I enquired a while ago for my BMW and when i asked the salesman are they reliable he winked and shook his head.
Lets not forget the biggest problems with lithium are heat and vibration. They can catch fire and explode. There are heaps of vids on you tube to prove it. A friend is a battery tech for the RAAF I asked him about one for the bike and just passed me another beer and laughed.

I know everyone has an opinion but the basics i like on a bike are,
1/ will it start everytime
2/ will it fail in the middle of no where
3/ will my balls and arse get singed by flames!

cravenhaven · « **Reply #43 on:** November 21, 2016, 09:17:34 AM »

Quote from: STuzzilla on November 20, 2016, 02:25:41 PM

Hi the only advantage i can think of with a lithium is that they are much smaller and lighter than a std battery. This makes sense if you have a bmw or guzzi and want to cafe it ie remove as much crap and weight as possible. Eg on a k100rs and Le mans the battery is huge and weighs heaps ( makes a st battery look puny and light.) So unless your after a clean look through the frame and move the battery under the bike and want to lose up to 6 or 7 kgs! then don't bother.
This doesnt sound like a St owner to me.
I enquired a while ago for my BMW and when i asked the salesman are they reliable he winked and shook his head.
Lets not forget the biggest problems with lithium are heat and vibration. They can catch fire and explode. There are heaps of vids on you tube to prove it. A friend is a battery tech for the RAAF I asked him about one for the bike and just passed me another beer and laughed.

I know everyone has an opinion but the basics i like on a bike are,
1/ will it start everytime
2/ will it fail in the middle of no where
3/ will my balls and arse get singed by flames!

i think the promise of Lithium was its long lifetime and low self discharge rate. Those were certainly the attractions to me when purchasing one but unfortunately neither seem to be true in reality.
When I received it I was amazed at its weight and size, but as you say, a couple of kg's of battery weight make no difference to the overall bike performance.

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