ADAS is Crap...

[Williamson]

Marcus, I didn't know that.

.... never click on a tinyurl links after being sent to po*n sites, virus sites etc.

Well, that's your story, mind if I use it (if I need it)?

A mate got an instant dismissal from his Federal Government management role a few years back, clicked-on a link in an email, took him straight to a porn site, immediately closed site, IT department was monitoring internet use, immediate report to senior management, returned from lunch, security swipe card wouldn't pemit entry, met by security with a box full of his personal items from his office, marched outta the building.   That was his story anyway.

Start-stop systems are designed to save fuel by temporarily stopping engines when cars come to a halt.

One of the few things that were on the must have / must not have / do not buy list when comparing new car buys for Helen around four years ago.  Helen's choice, the Kia Sportage GT-Line diesel, does not have stop/start.  I'm very pleased about that.

Speaking of stop/start functions, just a week ago, Helen or I must have inadvertently touched a button or flicked a switch on the Kia as the park brake auto assist would activate when not needed or wanted (it's okay for it to activaye when parked, but not when manoeuvring back and forth when parking - very, very annoying).  Couldn't find anything in the Owner's Manual, but a quick YouTube search found a video, back to normal now.

[Marcus]

Marcus, I didn't know that.

It also tracks people who click on them. Companies used to use it in email campaigns to track who and where people clicked.

[Shiney]

... tinyurl... hides the actual URL and people don't know where the link will go, not saying anything, but you could, if you were that way inclined to send link people to really dangerous sites in the internets.

I personally never click on a tinyurl links after being sent to po*n sites, virus sites etc.
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It also tracks people who click on them. Companies used to use it in email campaigns to track who and where people clicked.

This is awesome information to have
Thanks for letting everyone know, I'm sure it will save at least some of us from clicking on a dodgy link in the future

Cheers
Shiney

[ruSTynutz]

Advanced driver assistance systems ‘inconsistent and dangerous’ – report

http://tinyurl.com/yeynnxh8

Nothing to add to this apart from you, for someone who likes his privacy, you sure use tinyurl ALOT, It hides the actual URL and people don't know where the link will go, not saying anything, but you could, if you were that way inclined to send link people to really dangerous sites in the internets.

Do you honestly think I'd risk being banned from this forum by doing something like that?
Who posted it is there for everyone to see...
I've used tinyurl ever since I've been a member of Ozstoc (and long before) and as far as I'm aware, not a single person has ever complained about my links.

Please post the entire link or find another URL shortener which shows the url destination when we hover over it.

If you're that worried, you can simply add a + to the end of the tinyurl link and that will show you the "entire" link.
The tinyurl link I posted earlier will then look like this: http://tinyurl.com/yeynnxh8+

[ruSTynutz]

Start-stop systems are designed to save fuel by temporarily stopping engines when cars come to a halt.

One of the few things that were on the must have / must not have / do not buy list when comparing new car buys for Helen around four years ago.  Helen's choice, the Kia Sportage GT-Line diesel, does not have stop/start.  I'm very pleased about that.

Speaking of stop/start functions, just a week ago, Helen or I must have inadvertently touched a button or flicked a switch on the Kia as the park brake auto assist would activate when not needed or wanted (it's okay for it to activaye when parked, but not when manoeuvring back and forth when parking - very, very annoying).  Couldn't find anything in the Owner's Manual, but a quick YouTube search found a video, back to normal now.

 

[Gadget]

I'm stunned so many think their reaction times (measured in seconds) vs multiple redundant computers (reaction times measured in millionths of a second) and that the believe their vision is superior to 8 to 12 × cameras, 12 × Ultrasonic sensors, 5 × millimetre wavelength radars. :shrug

Is it an ego thing?


There are reasons fewer planes crash on landing, and don't run into each other in the night sky, and its because of ADAS like systems such as Autopilot (including landings), Instrument Landing Systems, Microwave Landing Systems, RADAR, Total Collision Avoidance System (TCAS), etc.

Pilot (driver) error is the largest contributor to accidents in the air, and on the ground.

The singular, easily distracted, often fatigued, sometimes drugged, meat computer was superseded a long time ago.

Teslas driving on FSD-supervised have, by far, fewer accidents than Teslas driven by humans.

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[ruSTynutz]

The issues most people have with ADAS has nothing to do with reaction times, it's the fact that these "so called" safety features in the vast majority of cars don't function as they should or often engage when not needed and can create a dangerous situation.

[ruSTynutz]

....or they are just plain irritating...

[Brock]

....or they are just plain irritating...

And there in lies a problem.... When a driver gets irritated, he/she gets distracted and tries to find what is going on . That means eyes and brain arent looking at the road..

[Gadget]

....or they are just plain irritating...

And there in lies a problem.... When a driver gets irritated, he/she gets distracted and tries to find what is going on . That means eyes and brain arent looking at the road..

I guess it's hard for some to accept they're fallible and there might be something better than them.

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[LindsayGT]

Getting Comfortable With ADAS
ADAS isn’t one thing — it’s a bundle of features that each behave differently. The trick is understanding what each system can do, what it can’t, and how to make it work with you rather than against you.

🌟 The mindset shift
ADAS is assistance, not autonomy.

You’re still the driver; the car is just offering a second set of eyes and hands.

The goal is to reduce workload, not replace judgment.

The Features People Usually Need Time to Adjust To
1. Lane Keep Assist / Lane Centering
Can feel “tuggy” at first.

Works best on well‑marked roads.

Tip: Keep a light grip on the wheel — the system expects your hands to be there.

2. Adaptive Cruise Control
A favourite once you trust it.

Maintains distance, slows for traffic, accelerates again.

Tip: Adjust the following distance to what feels natural; most cars default to “too cautious.”

3. Automatic Emergency Braking
Rarely activates, but when it does, it’s abrupt.

Tip: Think of it as a safety net, not a driving tool.

4. Blind Spot Monitoring
One of the easiest to love.

Tip: Still shoulder‑check — sensors can’t see everything.

5. Driver Monitoring / Alerts
Can feel naggy.

Tip: If it’s too sensitive, most cars let you adjust the alert level.

Practical Strategies to “Live With” ADAS
Start with one feature at a time
Turn on only the systems you want to get used to. Add others gradually.

Learn the system’s limits
Every ADAS has blind spots:

Poor weather

Faded lane markings

Complex intersections

Unusual traffic patterns

Knowing these helps you avoid surprises.

Treat it like a co‑pilot, not a boss
If the system does something odd:

Override it

Steer through it

Brake or accelerate as needed

Your input always wins.

Use it where it shines
Long highway drives

Stop‑and‑go traffic

Fatigue‑prone situations

Avoid relying on it in:

Tight city streets

Roadworks

Rural roads with unclear markings


I have had almost no dramas wit ADAS as implemented in my 2022 Mazda CX5. I would not like to go back to before ADAS.

[ruSTynutz]

Some fair comments there, Lindsay...but, as you've said, your car is a 2022 model and I think you'll find things have changed a bit with later model cars.

Moving on, I am quite happy with some ADAS such as blind spot monitoring...that in my opinion, is a genuine aid.
The same goes for parking sensors/cameras.

Others, such as automatic emergency braking, not so much as I've had the brakes slam on hard enough to momentarily lock up the wheels and to send us hard against the seat belts in a situation that was under perfect control where only light braking was required yet for whatever reason the computer decided differently. 
This scared the crap out of Sue & myself and I was thankful that there was no-one close behind us.

Lane centering is a pain as I found driving over to WA. I like to drive well to the left, especially when there are road trains heading towards me yet when that was enabled I was constantly fighting against it.
Lane Keep Assist also isn't much chop when the roads are full of pot holes and you're trying to dodge them.
Thankfully I can still disable both in my Sportage.

Hopefully, as mentioned in a previous article, from this year ANCAP will be examining how these Systems perform and actually see how they affect drivers.
Systems that are too annoying, frustrating or jerky will lose points, compromising a car’s safety score.
Hopefully then, manufacturers will lift their game and calibrate these systems so they work as intended knowing they may not get a 5 star rating if they don't...