Driving an electric car from Sydney to Melbourne / the Downsides of EVs

[Shillas]

Essential viewing tonight on SBS Viceland at 8.30

"World's Best Electric Cars"

[ruSTynutz]

OK, Rusty (Don Quixote) Nutz, keep tilting at windmills in your one man crusade.

I've simply pointed out some of the downsides & issues with EV's...
I get that you're passionate about EVs, but surely you, if you were being honest with yourself, would have to admit there are quite a few downsides and, at this point in time, they certainly aren't a like for like replacement for ice vehicles.

As for your derogatory comments towards me, you certainly aren't setting a good example as a Moderator.
I have never attacked your character, yet you feel it's okay to attack mine... 

Anyhow, here's hoping from now on you can refrain from getting personal and just concentrate on the subject... 

[ruSTynutz]

The Govt wont like that, no fuel taxes..

I believe it's only a matter of time before the Federal Government introduces some kind of "fuel tax" or surcharge on EV rego to cover maintenance of our roads...
Probably something similar to what the New Zealand Government has done. https://tinyurl.com/yc4twa99
In saying that though, with the slower than expected uptake of EVs, they are probably a bit reluctant to introduce anything at this point in time... 

[LindsayGT]

The Mclennans are travelling through Sydney this week, well into the second half of their trip around Australia.

Of course it can't be done!!!

https://www.facebook.com/ElecTrekking

[ruSTynutz]

Of course it can't be done!!!

I don't think anyone said it can't be done...
You could also ride a postie bike around Oz but, like driving an EV around Oz, it will take much more time, planning and effort to do it compared to an ICE vehicle... 

[Marcus]

it will take much more time, planning and effort to do it compared to an ICE vehicle... 

Only because the infrastructure hasn't been built out completely yet, give it time. Service stations and trucks transporting the fuel to them to keep them topped up have been in place for a while now

[Gadget]

The Govt wont like that, no fuel taxes..

I believe it's only a matter of time before the Federal Government introduces some kind of "fuel tax" or surcharge on EV rego to cover maintenance of our roads...
Probably something similar to what the New Zealand Government has done. https://tinyurl.com/yc4twa99
In saying that though, with the slower than expected uptake of EVs, they are probably a bit reluctant to introduce anything at this point in time... 

So you expect me (and others) to accept your unfounded assertions, when you have zero experience with an EV, and I've got to 2 with an EV, out of 44+ years of vehicle ownership, which you deem should be ignored.

My EV meets, and exceeds, all my needs, and is better than a like for like replacements. For a start, it's not fatigue inducing to drive.

Murdoch (Sky News) and other commercial media are dependent on advertising revenue from the oil and gas industries, so they're happily spreading disinformation because they know how to manipulate people. That's why advertisements work, they use psychologists to manipulate people to buy product, only now, they are using the same techniques with 'articles', talking heads, etc.

Some (many) of Sky's talking heads have aligned themselves with one political party and think this is a vote winner. I know EV owners who support that party and think Sky people are being silly (to put it kindly).

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[Gadget]

There is a couple driving around Australia in a Kia EV9, towing a large van fitted with solar panels. They have driven Perth, Darwin, Mt Isa, Cairns, Daintree, Townsville, down the Wld coast, and were at Bathurst on 16 Sep 2024

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/12A4MG1h7FU/?mibextid=oFDknk

They can charge their car from the van if they need to.

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[ruSTynutz]

So you expect me (and others) to accept your unfounded assertions, when you have zero experience with an EV, and I've got to 2 with an EV, out of 44+ years of vehicle ownership, which you deem should be ignored.

They aren't all my assertions, I post articles etc showing some of the downsides/issues with EVs, I don't need to own an EV to recognise them.
I also can't help it if you can't accept that EVs aren't ideal for everyone! 

I also get that there are plenty of people out there that are perfectly happy with their EV, but that doesn't mean there aren't issues with their suitability for others.

Feel free to question the articles, prove them wrong if you must but, I'll say it again, there is no need to be derogatory towards me and question my integratory just because you don't like what's been posted.

[ruSTynutz]

The states and territories that have ditched electric car incentives

If you’re only just getting on the EV train, you might be too late to jump onto the electric car discounts and rebates in some states.
Click link to read: https://www.drive.com.au/caradvice/state-governments-begin-scrapping-their-electric-car-discounts/

[ruSTynutz]

CO2, and charging your EV at home: You're not going to like it.

Yet another interesting video from our old mate, John Cadogan... 

https://youtu.be/REjOALjiiUI?si=rqpyDm1OXaHd1DIB

[ruSTynutz]

I know it's not limited to EVs, but obviously they, along with every other Chinese manufactured car would be affected... 

’Could be compromised’: Calls to ban ‘weaponised’ Chinese EVs

The United States has moved to ban Chinese connected-car technology over fears vehicles can spy on – and assassinate – their drivers.

“Cars today have cameras, microphones, GPS tracking and other technologies connected to the internet. It doesn’t take much
imagination to understand how a foreign adversary with access to this information could pose a serious risk to both our national security
and the privacy of citizens,” Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo said earlier this week.

“In an extreme situation, foreign adversaries could shut down or take control of all their vehicles operating in the United States all at the same time.”

To continue reading, click this link: https://tinyurl.com/7vfpdzs8

[ruSTynutz]

Sort of reminds me of this: https://youtu.be/4TCXvkaUyzM?si=da1rEL2OAg6IiRrb 

[ruSTynutz]

[ruSTynutz]

Popular electric vehicle manufacturer BYD responds to claims Atto 3 has a sim card that can ‘call you’ without knowing

A popular brand of electric vehicle sold in Australia has a hidden backdoor allowing the manufacturer to listen into conversations, users have claimed.
After witnessing an explosive month showcasing the awful possibilities of technological warfare, the topic of electric vehicles and their potential to be
hacked has once again been thrust into the global spotlight.

A driver who owns a BYD car, a Chinese brand of electric vehicle, has claimed that the software can listen to his conversations.

To continue reading, click link: https://tinyurl.com/tcyhvd6a

[LindsayGT]

I don’t suppose this is of any relevance!

https://www.choice.com.au/consumers-and-data/data-collection-and-use/who-has-your-data/articles/toyota-connected-cars

[ruSTynutz]

Certainly relevant but, as far as I'm aware, there has been no mention of Toyota (or anyone else for that matter) being able to listen in to conversations as has been reported with the BYD brand.

For the record, I'm certainly aware that privacy issues are not just confined to EVs.
I think the invasion of privacy and the tracking of pretty much everything you do with a new car (be it an EV or ICE) is so wrong but unfortunately, you really don't have very much choice but to accept it if you want a new car...

[Biggles]

Certainly relevant but, as far as I'm aware, there has been no mention of Toyota (or anyone else for that matter) being able to listen in to conversations as has been reported with the BYD brand.

or being filmed naked as reported of the Tesla brand.   

[LindsayGT]

https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/blog/privacy-nightmare-on-wheels-every-car-brand-reviewed-by-mozilla-including-ford-volkswagen-and-toyota-flunks-privacy-test/

[ruSTynutz]

Shame it didn't include any Chinese manufacturers...

[West Aussie Glen]

My youngest car is a 198 Pulsar N15 SSS which I am looking to upgrade to get all the new driver aids/safety features but maybe not? I am currently driving one of Mr Avis's Nissan Quashi Ti and loving all the features.
Don't really know why people are worried about their privacy with new cars, I get a report every month from Google about where I have been (yes I know I could turn location off on my phone but now I can enjoy what I did again and again  ).
I am sure phones, ipads, smart TVs etc can gather just as much or probably more than cars.

[Gadget]

100%.

People worried about privacy in a car, carrying an iPhone or Android phone in their pocket, which is always listening, have Amazon Echo, Apple or Google home automation.

How special do they think they are, that anyone would interested in the minutia of the conversations they have with their kids or partner whilst driving a car.

Unless you're an operational staff member of the military, ASIO, ASIS, or Government (people who know how to keep secrets), you've got nothing to worry about.

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[ruSTynutz]

I'm glad you guys are so casual when it comes to your privacy...Do you mind if I have your bank account details & passwords? 

[Marcus]

I'm glad you guys are so casual when it comes to your privacy...Do you mind if I have your bank account details & passwords? 

Do you use Google Maps or any form of GPS when you travel or do you lug around the Melways on your bike?

[ruSTynutz]

Of course but I actively try to protect my privacy as much as I can...