Major pass on both, though.
In the early days I can remember Dad and an uncle saying something similar about
Jap Crap, and many of our generation saying something similar re. Korean cars.
Dad always bought Ford Zephys and Falcons and would probably turn in his grave everytime someone in the family bought a Japanese or Korean car. On the otherhand Uncle Jack bought one of the original 1964 Datsun Bluebirds for my aunty to zip and town, then a Gen 1 Honda Civic. Dad and Uncle Jack would argue about cars, they both won.
Never say never,