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Just received this. Worth a Read
« on: January 14, 2013, 08:36:46 PM »
.Apparently the White House referred to Christmas Trees as Holiday Trees for the first time this year which prompted CBS presenter, Ben Stein, to  present this piece which I would like to share with you.




The following  was written  by Ben Stein and recited by him on CBS Sunday Morning Commentary.

My  confession:

I am a Jew, and every single one of my ancestors was Jewish.  And it does not bother me even a little bit when people call those beautiful lit up, bejewelled trees, Christmas trees.  I don't feel threatened.  I don't feel discriminated against. That's what they are, Christmas  trees.

It doesn't bother me a bit when people say, 'Merry Christmas' to me.  I don't think they are slighting me or getting ready to put me in a ghetto.  In fact, I kind  of like it.  It shows that we are all brothers and sisters celebrating this happy time of year. It doesn't bother me at all that there is a manger scene on display at a key intersection near my beach house in Malibu .  If people want a creche, it's just as fine with me as is the Menorah a few hundred yards away.

I  don't like getting pushed around for being a Jew, and I don't think Christians like getting pushed around for being Christians.  I think people who believe in God are sick and tired of getting pushed around, period.  I have no idea where the concept came from, that America is an explicitly atheist country.  I can't find it in the Constitution and I don't like it being shoved down my throat.

Or maybe I can put it another way: where did the idea come from that we should worship celebrities and we aren't allowed to worship God ?  I guess that's a sign that I'm getting old too.  But there are a lot of us who are wondering where these celebrities came from and where the America we knew went to.

In light of the many jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different:  This is not intended to be a joke; it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking.
 Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her 'How could God let something like this happen?' (regarding Hurricane Katrina)..  Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.  She  said, 'I  believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.   And being the gentleman He  is, I believe He has calmly backed out.  How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?'

In light of recent  events... terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.  I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body found a few years ago) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said OK.  Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school.  The Bible says thou shalt not kill; thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbour as yourself.  And we said OK.

Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave, because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem  (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide).   

We said an expert should know what he's talking about.  And we said okay.

Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,  why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.

Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.  I think it has a great deal to do with 'WE REAP WHAT WE SOW.'

Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world's going to hell.   Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says.  Funny how you can send 'jokes' through  e-mail  and they spread like wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about  sharing.  Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene  articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace.

Are you laughing yet?

Funny how when you forward this  message, you will not send it to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what they will think of you for sending it.

Funny how we can be more   worried about what other people think of us than what God thinks  of  us.

Pass it on if you think it has  merit.

If not, then just discard  it.... no one will know you did.  But, if you discard this thought  process, don't sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in.

My Best Regards, 

 

Honestly and respectfully,

Ben  Stein

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Re: Just received this. Worth a Read
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2013, 09:34:03 PM »
I beleive in God and that Jesus died for our sins

I also beleive religion is doctrinated to suit who ever like a clever marketing tactic

My faith is a cloak that protects only me , and as much as I care about others some people you just can't help
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2013, 09:34:21 PM »
The original dates from 18th December 2005.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/confessions.asp

Someone has taken the liberty to "update it".  They've actually cobbled together a few similar short essays to come up with that one.

It's a bit sad that they saw fit to rewrite it, because the sentiments are valid. 
I've seen more contemporary writers express the same misgivings, as no doubt others have.
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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2013, 10:59:50 PM »
This came to me as an email from my wife's cousin (and my friend) Wayne
 
 

 

A FLORIDA COURT SETS ATHEIST HOLY DAY

In Florida , an atheist created a case against Easter and

Passover Holy days. He hired an attorney to bring a discrimination

Case against Christians and Jews and observances of their holy days.

The argument was that it was unfair that atheists had no such recognized days.

The case was brought before a judge. After listening to the

Passionate presentation by the lawyer, the judge banged his gavel

Declaring, "Case dismissed!"

The lawyer immediately stood and objecting to the ruling

Saying, "Your honor, How can you possibly dismiss this case? The

Christians have Christmas, Easter and others.

The Jews have Passover, Yom Kippur and Hanukkah, yet my client and

All other atheists have no such holidays..."

The judge leaned forward in his chair saying, "But you do. Your

Client, counselor, is woefully ignorant."

The lawyer said," Your Honor, we are unaware of any special

Observance or holiday for atheists."

The judge said, "The calendar says April 1st is April Fool s Day.

Psalm 14:1 states, 'The fool says in his heart, there is no God.'

Thus, it is the opinion of this court, that, if your client says there

Is no God, then he is a fool. Therefore, April 1st is his day.

Court is adjourned..."

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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2013, 08:39:19 AM »
The idiocy and Political Correctness gone mad is easy to see.

The DoGooders want to ban Xmas decorations/music in all public places in case it offends other religions. My Daughter has quite a few friends who a Moslems, they spent last Xmas partying and giving presents. In Asia (Malaysia / Thailand Moslem-Buddhist countries) The super markets are  all decorated, and the music is at crazy levels.

  And the kids there think I'm Santa... :|||| :||||
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2013, 09:32:34 AM »
  And the kids there think I'm Santa... :|||| :||||

Excellent.  I hope you give all of them presents.     :thumbsup     :crackup
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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2013, 04:03:56 PM »
I think you will find anywhere in the world that kids will take what they can get for any holiday going  :thumbs .  I quite like the Muslim holidays as well, as when I was at work a young fellow who was a Muslim explained what they were all about, which was just as compelling and detailed as any of the catholic celebrations that I am more familiar with.  Like with any religion, the radicals/organised churches or whatever get all the press and bad publicity, while the moderates or real devotees get on with the real meaning of their religion in practice.

I think that most of the organised religions would get a big fail in what they are doing if we were able to go back to check the originators in what they should be doing (Scientology apart most likely! as they seem to be doing what was planned, but I don't class them as a religion)
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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2013, 10:02:44 AM »
.Apparently the White House referred to Christmas Trees as Holiday Trees for the first time this year which prompted CBS presenter, Ben Stein, to  present this piece which I would like to share with you.




The following  was written  by Ben Stein and recited by him on CBS Sunday Morning Commentary.

My  confession:

I am a Jew, and every single one of my ancestors was Jewish.  And it does not bother me even a little bit when people call those beautiful lit up, bejewelled trees, Christmas trees.  I don't feel threatened.  I don't feel discriminated against. That's what they are, Christmas  trees.

It doesn't bother me a bit when people say, 'Merry Christmas' to me.  I don't think they are slighting me or getting ready to put me in a ghetto.  In fact, I kind  of like it.  It shows that we are all brothers and sisters celebrating this happy time of year. It doesn't bother me at all that there is a manger scene on display at a key intersection near my beach house in Malibu .  If people want a creche, it's just as fine with me as is the Menorah a few hundred yards away.

I  don't like getting pushed around for being a Jew, and I don't think Christians like getting pushed around for being Christians.  I think people who believe in God are sick and tired of getting pushed around, period.  I have no idea where the concept came from, that America is an explicitly atheist country.  I can't find it in the Constitution and I don't like it being shoved down my throat.

Or maybe I can put it another way: where did the idea come from that we should worship celebrities and we aren't allowed to worship God ?  I guess that's a sign that I'm getting old too.  But there are a lot of us who are wondering where these celebrities came from and where the America we knew went to.

In light of the many jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different:  This is not intended to be a joke; it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking.
 Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her 'How could God let something like this happen?' (regarding Hurricane Katrina)..  Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.  She  said, 'I  believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.   And being the gentleman He  is, I believe He has calmly backed out.  How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?'

In light of recent  events... terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.  I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body found a few years ago) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said OK.  Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school.  The Bible says thou shalt not kill; thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbour as yourself.  And we said OK.

Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave, because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem  (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide).   

We said an expert should know what he's talking about.  And we said okay.

Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,  why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.

Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.  I think it has a great deal to do with 'WE REAP WHAT WE SOW.'

Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world's going to hell.   Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says.  Funny how you can send 'jokes' through  e-mail  and they spread like wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about  sharing.  Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene  articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace.

Are you laughing yet?

Funny how when you forward this  message, you will not send it to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what they will think of you for sending it.

Funny how we can be more   worried about what other people think of us than what God thinks  of  us.

Pass it on if you think it has  merit.

If not, then just discard  it.... no one will know you did.  But, if you discard this thought  process, don't sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in.

My Best Regards, 

 

Honestly and respectfully,

Ben  Stein

that was too long to read, so i didn't  :grin
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2013, 05:37:15 PM »
It was long, but well worth reading - good post Dave :thumb
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