Bosch Stability control vs only ABS

[Marcus]

Frenata in piega con sistema Bosch MSC

[Biggles]

Impressive!!

I deduce it somehow stands the bike up.      How does that work?

I'm also guessing you can easily retain directional control.

Love the beautiful "sacrificial" ABS bike.

[Bikebear]

Or maybe people could learn to brake before they lean the bike over into a corner. Check out some top line racers, they get all their braking done before they lean over into the corner. I guess some people will want this technology and will pay extra for it, I just wonder how long it will be before not only cornering is computer controlled but how fast you are allowed to go, how hard you can accellerate.. etc, etc, etc...

[alans1100]

I guess there are some that think that an ABS equipped bike has the same cornering ability as an ABS equipped car. How wrong that view is, as outside of vertical/near vertical straight line braking ABS is all but useless.

[alans1100]

2013 Bosch Motorcycle Stability Control system explained in video

https://youtu.be/ON5FhcuAi5E

[Biggles]

This gives a better idea of how it works

I'm none the wiser.  I'll have to find the text version.

[alans1100]

This gives a better idea of how it works

I'm none the wiser.  I'll have to find the text version.

I just looked at the pictures......so I might have a look as well

[Malcolm6112]

It looks like it gives enough power to stand the bike up, as it will do under power.

As you know, braking while leaning only puts the  bike down further, with a little power the bike will stand up allowing braking.
Instead of having to think this for ourselves, this system does it for you.

Clever

 

[Marcus]

It looks like under braking instead of putting all of the force on the front it transfers some of the power to the back at the same time. 

[alans1100]

MSC is also designed to reduce the risk of ‘lowside’ crashes, in which too much brake force is applied during cornering and the tyres lose traction.

“MSC counteracts this by detecting the risk of a lowsider and limiting the maximum brake force. The eCBS function distributes this maximum available brake force between the wheels, ensuring the best possible brake performance under cornering conditions,” says Bosch.

Read more.....

http://www.bikepoint.com.au/news/2013/bosch-reveals-stability-control-for-bikes-39070

[Biggles]

Aha!  So unlike ABS which turns the chosen brake force on and off rapidly to regain traction intermittently, this system actually reduces the chosen brake force to the maximum the traction can hold under the current conditions.  It's the m/c version of cars' VSS.  It's a blend of traction control and ABS.  Quaintly, KTM will be the first to incorporate it.  Now there's a company full of surprises.

[Marcus]

It's all explained here

BOSCH explains the new MSC for KTM's 1190 ADVENTURE

[Biggles]

Doesn't leave much for the rider to think about, does it?

If I had it, I fear I'd push the limits further and still manage to unstick it, although at a higher speed or greater lean angle than before.

[StinkyPete]

What an interesting concept.   Initially I thought it would be of most benefit to those who constantly ride at the edge of the envelope, but then for us mortal riders, I realized the main benefit would be to make motorcycling safer when the unexpected "oh shit" moment suddenly appears before us.