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4x4 Offroading
« on: June 26, 2014, 10:08:03 PM »
Well thought I'd post up one of my other hobbies.

We enjoy getting out in the 4x4 going camping and looking for challenging tracks and interesting places a fair bit and I'm sure some of you do as well, so please share some of your photos too!

I drive a 2004 Landcruiser 100 Series, Turbo Diesel, 5 speed auto with all the fruit, e.g. Chipped, exhaust, ARB air lockers (for better traction when needed) ARB winch bar, ARB scrub bars and steps, Dual wheel carrier, 2" OME Lift kit, Triple batteries in the engine bay with a battery management system, 80 watt solar panel on the roof rack, Sat/nav DVD player and the list goes on...

Our camper is a custom made hard floor off-road unit with independent suspension, thick canvas, full annexe, twin jerry and gas bottle holders, stereo, slide out kitchen, stainless twin burner, hot water shower system etc.

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Re: 4x4 Offroading
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2014, 10:49:56 PM »
We sold our modified Landcruiser some months ago......as we decided to move to a 4x4 dual cab set up in a similar manner to the cruiser for long distance touring, we thought the Landcruiser may have taken some time to sell as the mods done to the vehicle when costed up to replace we're worth more than the std vehicle, so we advertised with big money expecting it to take along time to sell......3 days and it was off to a new home.






We are just awaiting the launch of the new Toyota Hilux to see if it will suit our future plans.


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Re: 4x4 Offroading
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2014, 11:04:29 PM »
Nice Chris, what engine and trans did you have in the Cruiser? It doesn't  surprise me really, it's very expensive to modify them these days.

Hilux is definitely a nice choice, before our Landcruiser I bought a brand new Hilux in 2006 and decked it out for touring, very costly exercise but was worth it.

We sold that and went to a Landcruiser for the towing capacity.

Here is some photos of my old Hilux for inspiration  ;-*
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Re: 4x4 Offroading (MINES BIGGER)
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2014, 10:35:08 PM »
while we are showing off 4by's best put mine in
what else do i do with minimal spare time
diving, fishing and boating

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Re: 4x4 Offroading
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2016, 03:46:27 PM »
Here's some browsing and good prices for 4WD and Camping Stuff.
https://www.4wdsupacentre.com.au/
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Re: 4x4 Offroading
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2017, 08:42:32 PM »
Well, today a part arrived for my BT50.

An oil catch can , from High Perfomance Deisels. It comes complete with brackets, fittings ,screws, clamps.

It is beautifully made (in SA), lets hope it wortks as well as it looks.

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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2017, 09:45:41 PM »
Yep HPD are the bomb  :thumbs  :thumbs
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Re: 4x4 Offroading
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2017, 07:16:40 AM »
Well, today a part arrived for my BT50.

An oil catch can , from High Perfomance Deisels. It comes complete with brackets, fittings ,screws, clamps.

It is beautifully made (in SA), lets hope it wortks as well as it looks.




That's a nice looking oil separator . I have a Provent fitted to the 120 Prado with a replaceable filter. I made one with pvc drain pipe bits, stainless steel scourer and filter paper which is fitted to the 76 series cruiser, works extremely well. Will post a photo next time I pull it off for a service.
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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2017, 02:13:51 PM »
Some pics of my diy oil separator, traps most of the blow past oil which otherwise would be fouling the EGR valve and inlet manifold 🤓
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Re: 4x4 Offroading
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2021, 10:58:47 PM »
For those who are in to 4x4, and have a roof rack. Have a look at this video, and then contact your car maker and find out the max loading for the roof of your car.. for the 2015 BT50/Ford ranger its 75 KG.. With the weight of the rack, you dont have much to play with..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r32xd9z4SZ4&t=1s&ab_channel=RonnyDahl
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Re: 4x4 Offroading
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2021, 05:52:18 AM »
I was once told that when driving off road, you need to reduce your roof load to 60% of what the manufacturer recommends.    A mate cracked all of his roof pillars on the Canning due to the heavy load he was carrying on the roof.
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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2021, 11:35:23 AM »
Im confused, is he talking about vehicle roof load capacity or the load on the roof rack/tray itself? Because when he talks of  on and off road load carrying capacity seems like he is referring a particular brand of roof rack, Rhino in this case. I have a Rhino roof rack which is swapped between the Prado and Cruiser and never had any issues in 15 years of use.
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Re: 4x4 Offroading
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2021, 11:55:35 AM »
Im confused, is he talking about vehicle roof load capacity or the load on the roof rack/tray itself? Because when he talks of  on and off road load carrying capacity seems like he is referring a particular brand of roof rack, Rhino in this case. I have a Rhino roof rack which is swapped between the Prado and Cruiser and never had any issues in 15 years of use.

I think that the point he was trying to make was about the manufacturers' (Toyota and Rhino) specified or technical load limits, rather than practical limits.  In your case JD, you may not have had any issues, because you were not overloaded?   

Reminds me of a rack I had on my HQ Holden PV.  I never had any issues with it, I never had anything on it.  :whistle

One aspect that I didn't follow, or understand - I understood him to say that the capacity of the Rhino rack included the weight of the rack.
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Re: 4x4 Offroading
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2021, 01:19:21 PM »
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I understood him to say that the capacity of the Rhino rack included the weight of the rack.

Correct..  If the capacity is 100Kg, and the rack weighs 25Kg then there is effectively 75Kg left for storage on the rack...
However if the load carrying capacity of the roof is 75Kg then you can only safely place another 50Kg

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on and off road load carrying capacity

Off road capacity takes into account all the tipping and road vibration that can occur, these factors can affect how well the rack is able to be held onto the roof.
The rivets used, are big and strong, but the skin of the roof is very thin. It is easy to pull the rivet out causing a lot of damage. The cars with built in bolt down attachment points ( not fitted to my BT50.. :|||| :|||| ) only seem to have an extra 25Kg capacity.

So, those who have roof top tents just be careful where/how you drive, you dont want to arrive back home early minus tent rack and roof.
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Re: 4x4 Offroading
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2021, 02:08:40 PM »
..  If the capacity is 100Kg, and the rack weighs 25Kg then there is effectively 75Kg left for storage on the rack...
However if the load carrying capacity of the roof is 75Kg then you can only safely place another 50Kg ... So, those who have roof top tents just be careful where/how you drive, you dont want to arrive back home early minus tent rack and roof.

Or putting spare wheels on the roof rack.  A quick search found this on a Nissan Patrol Forum from 2012: 16 x 8 sunny rim with 315x75x16 ... 35kg; 46kg for 35x12.5 16 bias maxxis creepy on an alloy 16x8 trail ready beadlock.

One wheel but not much else would be okay, two may be a problem - on some vehicles.
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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2021, 02:45:23 PM »
Not to mention the raising of the centre of gravity by putting that much weight overhead.

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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2021, 02:59:38 PM »
Not to mention the raising of the centre of gravity by putting that much weight overhead.

Pffft ..... 100kg is nuffing, at least compared to this report. https://www.club4x4.com.au/not-load-roof-rack-cautionary-tale/

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Re: 4x4 Offroading
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2021, 06:10:25 PM »
Depends on the incline, razorback, entry or exit angles.

It can be the difference between Shiney-side up and turtle toes.

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