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Honda ST1100 Section => Oils, Oil Filters & Servicing ST1100 => Topic started by: Aj1300 on March 20, 2012, 06:20:47 PM
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Does anyone know the best place to buy the right grease for the rear wheel.
Cheers Aj :blk13
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:wht11 py
The Honda brand is about $90 if you can find it as we believe they no longer import it.(3 oz per tube)
I think that Ron may have sold his last one.
the grease itself is a "60% Molybdenum Disulphide Paste"
Maybe some one in the Oil and Grease industry might be able to help. :wink1 :wink1 :wink1
Tipsy
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I was just looking at that today. I did my rear tyre myself and used Castrol LMM grease and it was better than the no grease that was used on my last tyre change done by a Honda dealer.
Castrol LMM
A high melting point, heavy duty grease containing extreme pressure additives and molybdenum disulfide, suitable for automotive ball and constant velocity (CV) joints.
So if it's good enough for that sort of punishment then the splines on an ST should be well looked after.
I didn't know what the price was as I never knew I had the stuff until my partner found it. She must have borrowed it permanently off of her bro. Noticed it for sale at supercheap for around 12.00 a cartridge doing a search for the stuff.
http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Castrol-LMM-Grease-Cartridge-450g.aspx?pid=1588#Description (http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Castrol-LMM-Grease-Cartridge-450g.aspx?pid=1588#Description)
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Molybond GA50.
I looked into this about 2 years ago. You want something with a minimum of 30 % molybdenum disulphide to be effective at reducing wear on drive splines. Most greases used to lube CV joints etc have only small amounts of molybdenum disulphide and aren't really suitable for final drive splines.
I managed to get my hands on the data sheet for Honda moly paste and it isn't really a 60 % molydenum disulphide paste as described. Molybond has a much higher concerntration of molybdenum disulphide at 50%. I'll try and find the Honda data sheet.
Have a read of the data sheet info re Molybond GA50. It can be obtained from Blackwoods, I think I paid about $35.00 for a tube which will last until the sun burns out.
http://www.internati.com.au/Brand/ROCOL_MOLYBOND/ASSEMBLY_PASTE_%28GA50%29_TDS.PDF (http://www.internati.com.au/Brand/ROCOL_MOLYBOND/ASSEMBLY_PASTE_%28GA50%29_TDS.PDF)
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no Tipsy
ron still has some
i got mine from him about 2 months age
that's Ron Hewett at eagelby, member of small machines at mudgeeraba
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AJ i can give you Rons contact
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That would be great harieg, thanks
Cheers Aj :blk13
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I have been using some Molykote Super anti-seize P74 that I bought at a local bearing place. It is a synthetic based grease and easily lasts between tyre changes. 500gm tin so will last quite a while.
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I did some googling and found this site with a best price Molybond GA50 at about $35.00 for a 100gram tube. Blackwoods was about $50 for the same stuff.
http://www.sedl.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=13_40&products_id=4516 (http://www.sedl.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=13_40&products_id=4516)
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Molybond GA50.
You want something with a minimum of 30 % molybdenum disulphide to be effective at reducing wear on drive splines.
Partial
The 60% I quoted is actually of the Honda tube itself which I have . So one would deduce that this is what they recommend.
But then again I have been known to be wrong from time to time :-((( :spank
Tipsy
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EM sent about Ron's details to aj1300
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Molybond GA50.
You want something with a minimum of 30 % molybdenum disulphide to be effective at reducing wear on drive splines.
Partial
The 60% I quoted is actually of the Honda tube itself which I have . So one would deduce that this is what they recommend.
But then again I have been known to be wrong from time to time :-((( :spank
Tipsy
No worries Tipsy. Here's the data sheet from Three Bond (the company which makes Honda Moly 60):
http://www.ratherbe.us/Moly60_MSDS.pdf (http://www.ratherbe.us/Moly60_MSDS.pdf)
Honda recommend the stuff so it must be okay regardless of the lower moly content. I checked the work shop manual which saids you should use a grease which contains no less than 40% moly.....strange how it's at odds. Anyway, I guess the point is that Honda Moly 60 is a bit of a rip off when there's other products out there that are much cheaper and will do the job just as well.
Tony
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If you look at that data sheet the Honda stuff has only 15 to 20 percent molybdenum disulphide
Item 3 gives a list of ingredients and the percentage.
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Adam,
If you look at this thread
http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=112.0 (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=112.0)
there is a link to ebay where I bought some Honda grease from the US. Only thing was the cartridge is by no means full but still I would assume plenty for what we need although I haven't had my wheel off yet.
edit to correct grammar.
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Thanks for that Glen, I will have a look later. :thumbs
Cheers Aj :blk13
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stop wasting your time
don't keep filing up the post
you have Ron's name, address, phone number and a Google location
your problem is SOLVED
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Found Moly 60 on E-bay in the last few days for under $AUD20.00 posted.
I'm ordering a couple in the next couple weeks
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/370590733364?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/370590733364?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649)
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Found Moly 60 on E-bay in the last few days for under $AUD20.00 posted.
:beer
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Alans 1100
now that's a good buy
I already have a tube from Ron Hewett
but when it is used, I'll give you a hoy
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Hi guys, grease wise a lithium complex grease with molybdenum will do fine, as you have already stated. The trick is finding extremely high load grease. Molybdenum content is important, but consider moly as the last defence- if the grease can keep metal separated for longer before moly has to do it's job then you will reduce wear.
Yes, PM lubricants do such a grease which I am happy to get to you, if it's easier Hi-tec greases are of extremely high quality and I would not hesitate to recommend them (just not keen on their oils). Hitec are becoming more popular- I believe they are available at qld diesel spares- but please check before you go.