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General Category => Active Polls => Topic started by: Diesel on December 17, 2011, 11:10:22 PM
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I have found it hard to part with $1000 for a sweeter note and a 4hp gain on my ST13 as far as after market zorst pipes go....
But - have a listen to these Staintunes on a 13 under power - Yeah Baby!...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEIJgsyCT04&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEIJgsyCT04&feature=related)
I had a 4 into 1 Laser Muffler on my CB750 and she sang an 'oh so sweet' melody. The ST13 by comparison is quite refined and demure.
ST11s sound a lot better off the shelf I reckon.
Whadda you think - running standards or after market?
Post away... :popcorn
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I'm running standard at the moment, but your missing Delkevic from the list,
They have a few different shapes and sizes for the ST1100 and ST1300, the baffle can also be removed by means of a stainless steel bolt.
And free delivery in Oz, not bad for AU $699.00 :thumb
Check out the link to the Oz eBay store...
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Delkevic-Tri-Oval-17-Silencers-HONDA-ST1300-ST-1300-/280543625335?pt=AU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4151b40077
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West Aussie Glen will be away for awhile.
His vote is Staintunes.
It does sound good. We followed him when We won the record for the most OZSTOC shirts at an RTE in Beverley.
We could hear him when he opened it up to pass cars. Nice.
:blu13
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Did anyone else notice the after market ( homemade screen) woof!
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First model Staintunes on the ST11 (no removable baffle). I was happy with the standard pipes as I am all over too loud, and besides no power gain on the ST11. But my left exhaust hanger welded to the muffler broke, and I found someone with a set of factory seconds he never used (minor dent you cannot even see) for $350. When I clean and polish them they look rather nice.
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Here is the sound of a pair of Two Brothers Slip Ons in Carbon finish on a ST13.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbMvY9SBJ6w&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbMvY9SBJ6w&feature=related)
And a Yoshi...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz6Bihw9HZM&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz6Bihw9HZM&feature=related)
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I fitted Staintunes mainly for the exhaust note. Trouble with ST1300s is they go so fast you leave the exhaust note behind.
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Mine came with Staintune end cans.
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I fitted Staintunes mainly for the exhaust note. Trouble with ST1300s is they go so fast you leave the exhaust note behind.
But they do sound good when you are in the lead Glen.
:blu13
You make allowances for bike colour. :rofl
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I have a set of two bro. Slip on carbon. They sound like the bike has some balls now. A friend of mine has a 1300 as well and he has Staintune, Mine has a deeper sound then his. His feet get hot from the Staintune pipes, where as my pipes your feet don't get hot.
I like other people to hear you before they see you. With standard pipes you sneak around in stealth mode like a copper :blk13
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I fitted staintunes to replace the rusty standard ones and found that the stainies have improved the midrange quite a bit, particualy in the 2000 to 4000 rpm range. This makes it much quicker in overtaking situations and a nice note as well. :thumbsup
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When I got the 1100 with the Staintunes on it I went on a group ride and an ST1300 (and ex ST1100 owner ) rider said he was stunned that he actually heard the 1100 when I passed him. He wasn't used to being able to hear an ST.
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I've been looking at a set of these
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/180530907891?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/180530907891?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649)
I know we should buy in OZ but at nearly $250 price difference it means I'll get them rather than just think about it
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Here is video of the Delkevic's
Delkevic Pipes on ST1300 (w/Silencers) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWyupeBBoqA#)
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Here's a link to a Delkevic thread on the US ST Owners Site
http://www.st-owners.com/forums/showthread.php?86072-Delkevic-Exhaust-Installed-Nice (http://www.st-owners.com/forums/showthread.php?86072-Delkevic-Exhaust-Installed-Nice)
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Yeah I rekon so & the Delkevics for the ST1300 from the US Cost
A$ 458 delivered
& Delkevic Aust price delivered:
A$ 699 a saving of $241
More money for :beer :popcorn
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I wasn't about to spend $700 just to sound a bit more like a HD, but at $458 they become more interesting when there is a 5kg weight saving and a slight increase in power.
I wonder how often the Dept of Motor Transport tests the CO2 emissions on motorcycles? I've rarely heard of it in cars, but if they woke up to these having no catalytic converters they could nail you.
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They are very nice exhausts :thumb
I got the carbon ones and I must say they sound awesome, a few of the guys have heard them on my 1300 I'm sure they'll agree :wink1
Anyway this is the link to the post I made on them
http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=730.0 (http://ozstoc.com/index.php?topic=730.0)
Cheers
Shiney
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I would say acceleration has improved :thumb but I haven't done any tests or anything to back that up
I have found that now if I accelerate hard when the rpm hit around 5 the front wheel starts to lift (Scared the crap out of me the first time it happened) :eek
And as always it sounds better :grin
Cheers
Shiney
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I would say acceleration has improved :thumb but I haven't done any tests or anything to back that up
I have found that now if I accelerate hard when the rpm hit around 5 the front wheel starts to lift (Scared the crap out of me the first time it happened) :eek
And as always it sounds better :grin
Cheers
Shiney
What gear you in ?
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1st gear rolling along at 2k rpm
Twist the throttle open all the way
Front wheel starts to lift at 5k rpm :eek
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I can feel the adrenaline just thinking about it.
On my to do list one day.
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If these things can do it...
wingil.avi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6LUNgHEhoA#)
I've found with two up and quick off the lights it's very light in the front end without even trying :-[
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If these things can do it...
wingil.avi ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6LUNgHEhoA#[/url])
I've found with two up and quick off the lights it's very light in the front end without even trying :-[
Nice :thumb
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:wht11 py
I had my 1100 start to stand up on me coming out of right turn from lights where hoon P plater thought he was going to undertake me.
I had just clicked into 2nd and was starting to straighten up thank goodness so momentum was there,,gave it some and it must have been a tad more than needed :grin and it felt SO GOOOOOD..... cruised away straightening up with bloody great smile on dial, back on 2, got to speed limit and continued on my way, have not seen hoon since and have also been a little more cautious since. :thumb
Still breathin.
Tipsy
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Supposedly a exhaust place in Gympie which will turn your standard mufflers into monsters. Demented WRX sound.
Replaces the baffles as does the exhaust bloke in Slacks Creek.
Forgotted the name but the one in Slacks Creek is a favorite with the goldwing mob who want a little more than radio noise.
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:dred11
i put a set of staintune cans on my girl a long time ago - couldn't believe the difference :p - clean crisp power right up the tacho - no dead spot & she actually sounded like a motorcycle not a singer sewing machine.
the best bit - if you put aussie staintune's on - no re jetting - they are tuned - instant power, instant sound, instant smile :grin
st1100 on special for $500 now - an altenative - there is a guy in brissy that will cut,flow,tune & shut your original 13 pipes for about $300 last time i heard -gives them a better note & breath better but still OEM if you no what i mean :cop.
either way - DOO ITTT - u'll never look back - the sound of that beautiful V4 at full song is something else :p - just look at it as a safety thing - the tin tops will be able to hear you & maybe not try to mow u down :runyay
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In the video that Diesel posted the baffles are still in the Staintunes, they are not in mine :)
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:wht11 py
My question here is do you get that incessant drone on long hauls as a friend of mine said that he got on his yamaharley .
Hopefully at blackheath I will get to hear what the 1100 sounds like with different mufflers
Tipsy
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:dred11 8)
the answer is in the question - yamaharley - says it all really :-((( - why don't they just god damn buy a piece of american junk instead of buying a jap copy & then try to make it sound the american piece of junk :fp |-i- sorry i digress - yes it is somewhat louder depending on can model - sport or touring - but its sweet :p many a person has said my girl sounds sweet - that V four wonder - there is a huge difference between throaty & that disgusting just "LOUD" yamaharley :crazy :law |-i what is that ay! :dred11
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:dred11 8)
the answer is in the question - yamaharley - says it all really :-((( - why don't they just god damn buy a piece of american junk instead of buying a jap copy & then try to make it sound the american piece of junk :fp |-i- sorry i digress - yes it is somewhat louder depending on can model - sport or touring - but its sweet :p many a person has said my girl sounds sweet - that V four wonder - there is a huge difference between throaty & that disgusting just "LOUD" yamaharley :crazy :law |-i what is that ay! :dred11
:rofl :rofl :crackup agree agree :rofl :rofl :crackup :crackup
Tipsy
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:dred11
the guy at slackscreek is i think - workin4u exhasuts? :o ::) it was 50 moss St from memory - anyhoo - friend of mine sent her VFR cans to him - came back not loud but just very sweet :thumbs -horn on a jell fish comes to mind :p - but he can - pardon the pun :grin make them however you want apparently - even YAMAHARLEY if you must :spank :cuss :fp you just have to ride behind us - way way behind :grin :rofl |-i :|||| sacrilege i would say :dred11
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For me my ST13300 has has two major negatives, the seat and the sound. Even my staintunes are way behind the sound of my old Yamaha Royal Star Tour Deluxe (V4 1300) and my old Yamaha XS11. Both of these were a pleasure to listen when riding, no need for a fancy music system and no incessant drone. The biggest pain with the Royal Star was keeping it clean and the horrible saddle bags otherwise it was up there with the ST and except for some visual things had no links to Harleys.
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:dred11
ah yes glen - all the jap harley's think they sound really great :crackup - they have drugs to help you cope with that condition :eek :grin - 1 major problem with the v4/v2 jap harely - the V faces the wrong way :grin & sorry mate - it will never sound NEARLY as good as your 13 or my 11 or my bonnie with her staintunes.
a nice throaty rumble is just luvly - the excessively disgusting loud roar isn't :spank :-[ - but hey - it's a scooter & that ain't bad :) :dred11
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Bob,
Guess we will have to agree to disagree, my ST still sounds like a sewing machine. My Yamaha was anything but a jap - harley and sounded like a bike should. Did your bonnie come with a drip tray?
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I don't want to upset the apple cart but last sunday I actully heard a quiet Harley. Well, relatively speaking anyway. Electra-glide version, stock pipes louder than my 1100 but not as loud as most other Harleys I've heard.
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I am long over loud exhausts on a bike after years of inline 4s with race pipes. Bikes don't have to be objectionably loud to still perform ok. As a bike rider I am embarassed by how loud some bikes are for no good reason performance wise. I have heard ST11sd and ST13s with loud pipes and to me they do not sound that good. A bit of note and tone does sound good. I have the earlier Staintunes with no adjustment, and they sound a bit deeper but no louder. Suits me fine (I replaced the standard pipes only because one of the brackets broke and a set of pipes was available cheap - I was quite happy about how the standard pipes sounded)
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had slightly moderfied oems sounded ok but with the k&n filter had some power flat spot issues.
just installed delkevic 450cm carbons on good friday but am haveing some issues im not overly happy with, the pipes from the collectors seem to be bent ever so slightly out, the muflers are to far back by a bit (may have needed smaller 350cm mufflers), the centre stand rest is also out a bit, heel touches the pipe when changeing gears (seems to be out to far). anyway i may get new pipes made up
after that scaveing report i am actually happy with the mufflers. the extra lenght is also growing on me and i will get pipes fixed
(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc413/royst1100/DSCN1080.jpg)
(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc413/royst1100/DSCN1081.jpg)
the power seems smoother on delivery ( combo of mufflers and k&n) . more testing this weekend and after some kays are put on to burn in! OUT comes the baffles.
sounds great will be better
would i recomend delkevic?
yes
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Looks awesome mate :thumb
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yeh! like i said the extra lenght is growing on me. also am now able to fit my towbar :thumbs
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I have tried the STaintunes with the restrictor removed and while it sounded badass it seemed to drone a bit while cruising along at highway speeds, also the missus said that the drone while she was following was actually quite loud and she found it quite annoying. I've since put the restrictor back in and I am happy with it. Loud can be good..my Shadow with V&H Shortshots and home made baffles sounds lovely, but on the ST I think a nice muted throaty sound is fine.
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I've always had aftermarket pipes on my bikes tho most have been inline fours (& a couple of inline 6's) I have to agree overly loud bikes sound crap specially Harleys with straight out pipes & I really don't like the sound of the V4 when it's very loud & this is one reason why I've not bought the Delkevics for my ST1300 yet.
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The keyword in that .......yet
The std cans are good enough for me
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Don't get me wrong I love the sound of an engine any engine that has a tuned exhaust however not all motors need to be louder at a certain point it just becomes noise & my ST has more power than I can use so the power thing is a bit moot for me & anyway I think the ST still sounds pretty good as it is
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:dred11
i agree - our STeeds have ample power to enjoy :p- R1's they are not & were never meant to be :-((( - my stainetunes just make her breath freely & sound luvly :thumb- she pulls freely thru the tacho with absolutely no dead spot at all - not like the factory cans which restricted her - but we all know that they do this only to keep the authorities{ADR} happy - i replaced the suspension when it was needed -she handles sooo much better - just point it where you want with confidence - i put a K&N filter in only to save money cause genuine were/are ridiculously expensive - that's all i've done - the rest of the girl is just perfect the way our engineers in japan intended it to be - i'll be sad to see her go :-[ but alas i have changed my modus operandi - but i won't have a single bad memory of tokyo rose - i know the next pilot will enjoy many miles to come :hatwave :dred11
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Sounds like s*#^ to me (flat) with the baffles removed |-i
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they sound a lot better live
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they sound a lot better live
+1 :thumb