Author Topic: F1 light map sensor - clean the 5 way connector (Read 24974 times)

ST2UP · « **Reply #25 on:** May 18, 2015, 01:21:06 PM »

Nice one

RATS !! and brownie points to who ever posts why rats like this hiding hole in the ST ?? And it's not just the warmth and dark

tj189 · « **Reply #26 on:** May 18, 2015, 08:15:37 PM »

a worthwhile clean up there, rats and all

Shiney · « **Reply #27 on:** May 19, 2015, 06:21:53 AM »

Very well done guys

Biggles · « **Reply #28 on:** May 19, 2015, 09:17:06 AM »

It's a substantial project getting right down in the guts. Goodonya!
As for why rats move into vehicles- they bikes come home in Winter and keep their nice warmth under the cowls for hours. The rats detect the heat from their roost in the rafters and move in. They find the canteen never opens so they eat the furniture.

blerko · « **Reply #29 on:** June 20, 2015, 11:40:22 AM »

A big thanks to all who put their input to this thread!

My newly purchased bundle of toy had the occasional FI light problem with 2 flashes a few days apart (the problem that is, not the time between the two flashes!). Followed the instructions and found the "5-way wax" (60,000 kms on the clock). Took me over 2 hours because I'm not really mechanically minded (stubborn, though), but the instructions were spot on of course. Did it on a cold Adelaide day, so the tubes connecting the 5-way were immovable at first, but a heat gun from around 30cm away on low setting softened them up enough to slide off and, later, on easily for me. Was more worried about damaging the tubes with heat, so probably over cautious there; better safe than sorry, &c.

What a great resource this forum is!

Scanning the threads for the next weekend project now...

StinkyPete · « **Reply #30 on:** June 20, 2015, 12:55:48 PM »

Quote from: blerko on June 20, 2015, 11:40:22 AM

A big thanks to all who put their input to this thread!

My newly purchased bundle of toy had the occasional FI light problem with 2 flashes a few days apart (the problem that is, not the time between the two flashes!). Followed the instructions and found the "5-way wax" (60,000 kms on the clock). Took me over 2 hours because I'm not really mechanically minded (stubborn, though), but the instructions were spot on of course. Did it on a cold Adelaide day, so the tubes connecting the 5-way were immovable at first, but a heat gun from around 30cm away on low setting softened them up enough to slide off and, later, on easily for me. Was more worried about damaging the tubes with heat, so probably over cautious there; better safe than sorry, &c.

What a great resource this forum is!
Scanning the threads for the next weekend project now...

Hey Blerko.... Did it fix the problem?

blerko · « **Reply #31 on:** June 20, 2015, 02:42:47 PM »

After one week... so far... so good! Originally, once it was running it seemed ok but when the error appeared it would take some coaxing to stay idling with a bit of assistance with the throttle for the first 30 seconds. No error since, but I'll give it another week to be sure it's better. No screws or parts left over after my first delve into the guts, too, so that's nice

ST2UP · « **Reply #32 on:** June 20, 2015, 02:47:05 PM »

Good work blerko.....brilliant the members of the forum saved you some coin, and you got to get just a liitle closer to your ST

Flats · « **Reply #33 on:** July 06, 2015, 07:03:12 PM »

Hope I have posted this in the right place, for some time now have had the F1 light coming on and off,(two blinks). while the F1 light was on the bike ran ok, when it was off bike was a handfull to ride would not idle at all. seemed to have a little miss as well.

After some research on here I decide to clean the 5 ways connector it was clogged with gunk, all cleaned out. problem sovled. bike running great so far. Thank's everyone for the helpful stuff posted on the forums helps us none mechanical people save some money.

I did have some trouble with a couple of the screws they were really hard to get out(the bottom cover before i could access the 5 ways sorry not sure what its called), look's like someone had had a go at the screws before me. small cold chisel and a decent hammer, got the job done.

Gadget · « **Reply #34 on:** July 06, 2015, 07:43:21 PM »

The screws look like Phillips, but the single dot indicates they are JIS.

Biggles · « **Reply #35 on:** July 06, 2015, 07:55:28 PM »

Good find, Gadget. Without the dot you wouldn't pick the difference. It seems to be all about the angle of the grooves on the screwdriver and perhaps the depth it reaches into the head.

StinkyPete · « **Reply #36 on:** July 06, 2015, 08:10:25 PM »

I think I read elsewhere that Phillips Head Drivers are designed to cam out of the screw head if excessive pressure is applied, while JIS allows a greater force to be applied without camming out of the screw head.

ST2UP · « **Reply #37 on:** July 06, 2015, 09:02:58 PM »

Filing the tip of a 2 point Phillips will get you close enough to a JIS in a pinch

Flats · « **Reply #38 on:** July 07, 2015, 08:20:42 AM »

Quote from: Biggles on July 06, 2015, 07:55:28 PM

Good find, Gadget. Without the dot you wouldn't pick the difference. It seems to be all about the angle of the grooves on the screwdriver and perhaps the depth it reaches into the head.

Thats why they would not come out thank you.

tj189 · « **Reply #39 on:** September 15, 2015, 08:31:41 PM »

Well it has been just short of 2 years and that bloody F1 light with the map sensor error started again and bugger me it happened just as I was about to hop on and ride to work this morning.

Well got home this afternoon and straight into the five way connector, I could see through the the connector and all was clear so I left the single connector open and blocked off three of the other inlets and blew into the connector, no air coming out, shoved a bit of wire in and did the same to all the other bits, put it back together and low and behold all fixed again. I put the connector up a bit higher this time so we will see how it goes.

From memory that lasted around 60 - 70 thousand K's

Gadget · « **Reply #40 on:** September 15, 2015, 09:12:29 PM »

Quote from: tj189 on September 15, 2015, 08:31:41 PM

Well it has been just short of 2 years and that bloody F1 light with the map sensor error started again and bugger me it happened just as I was about to hop on and ride to work this morning.

Well got home this afternoon and straight into the five way connector, I could see through the the connector and all was clear so I left the single connector open and blocked off three of the other inlets and blew into the connector, no air coming out, shoved a bit of wire in and did the same to all the other bits, put it back together and low and behold all fixed again. I put the connector up a bit higher this time so we will see how it goes.

From memory that lasted around 60 - 70 thousand K's

I used pipe cleaners and metho on mine and mounted above the injector cables.

tj189 · « **Reply #41 on:** September 16, 2015, 05:09:27 PM »

Quote from: Gadget on September 15, 2015, 09:12:29 PM

Quote from: tj189 on September 15, 2015, 08:31:41 PM
Well it has been just short of 2 years and that bloody F1 light with the map sensor error started again and bugger me it happened just as I was about to hop on and ride to work this morning.

Well got home this afternoon and straight into the five way connector, I could see through the the connector and all was clear so I left the single connector open and blocked off three of the other inlets and blew into the connector, no air coming out, shoved a bit of wire in and did the same to all the other bits, put it back together and low and behold all fixed again. I put the connector up a bit higher this time so we will see how it goes.

From memory that lasted around 60 - 70 thousand K's
I used pipe cleaners and metho on mine and mounted above the injector cables.

Yep, put mine there now too. Got the idea from you after I posted the original post, so thank you

Marcus · « **Reply #42 on:** August 19, 2016, 10:56:57 AM »

CRAP CRAP CRAP,

I think this maybe my problem.
No spark to the plugs and the FI light constantly on and it won't kick over

I'm at a loss, I have a guy coming around to take a look, might have to look at this.

Cerebral Knievel · « **Reply #43 on:** August 19, 2016, 12:01:02 PM »

Lucky you don't have far to travel to get to work Marcus

ST2UP · « **Reply #44 on:** August 19, 2016, 02:42:02 PM »

Quote from: Marcus on August 19, 2016, 10:56:57 AM

CRAP CRAP CRAP,

I think this maybe my problem.
No spark to the plugs and the FI light constantly on and it won't kick over

I'm at a loss, I have a guy coming around to take a look, might have to look at this.

Doesn't sound 5-ways mate.....if the fuel pump relay isn't energising when you turn the key look at battery voltage if that's all good there is a wire in the loom the goes from the engine cut off to fuel pump relay that can be by-passed as it rubs through somewhere....

Battery, Cutoff switch, side stand and then the bypass would be my humble 5cents worth

Abe · « **Reply #45 on:** August 19, 2016, 02:43:16 PM »

Marcus, try disconnecting the battery for 30 minutes, reconnect, and try and start.

ST2UP and I did a "how to" thing to clean the 5 ways.

Curious, were you starting on the side stand or centre stand, how many km's?

Good Luck

cravenhaven · « **Reply #46 on:** August 19, 2016, 03:30:20 PM »

Have you tried reading/clearing out the codes from the computer?.
I recently had a problem where the bike wouldnt start for several minutes and was on the point of the battery giving up altogether before it kicked. Once I cleared the codes it fired immediately on cold start.

Marcus · « **Reply #47 on:** August 19, 2016, 03:32:42 PM »

Quote from: cravenhaven on August 19, 2016, 03:30:20 PM

Have you tried reading/clearing out the codes from the computer?.
I recently had a problem where the bike wouldnt start for several minutes and was on the point of the battery giving up altogether before it kicked. Once I cleared the codes it fired immediately on cold start.

How do I do that?

cravenhaven · « **Reply #48 on:** August 19, 2016, 03:44:12 PM »

As per attached doco from the manual

Itdepends · « **Reply #49 on:** May 03, 2017, 11:20:36 PM »

A quick bump and thank you for this useful topic. A newish (to me) ST1300 that was starting to stall when cold became a real pain as the idle speed was unstable and the bike starting to stall at times when warm. A quick check and clean of the five way fitting and it's all sweet again.

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Author Topic: F1 light map sensor - clean the 5 way connector (Read 24974 times)